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Old 09-01-2006, 06:15 PM
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Wolfgang Matt continues to amaze me. He's been flying at such a high level for 30+ years. I envy him! Congratulations to him!
Old 09-01-2006, 07:23 PM
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I don't remember much about the Austrians from France or Poland, but I practiced with the Swiss guys in France. I'm impressed and surprised by Marc Rubin's performance - he's made big progress in the last 12 months.
Old 09-02-2006, 11:31 AM
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1. Christophe Paysant-LeRoux, 2. Roland Matt, 3. Sebastiano Silvestri. 4th was the Young austrian Gerhard Mayer, 5th Wolfgang Matt.

Sorry but don't have the time to write a more detailed report, we're off to the banquet on the top of the stanserhorn.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:13 PM
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A great result.
The champagne corks will be flying at the YS engines. Again!
And TSComp' are goimg to have to hire extra to man the sales lines.
Good stuff all round.
I just hope that somebody caught these two on film, soon to be published in these very forums.
Old 09-03-2006, 05:07 AM
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you forget french supporter even if we are sad for stéphane carrier.
Old 09-03-2006, 06:33 AM
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SUrprised not to see Benoit in the top 5 he seemed to be doing well../. anyone know his position - Swiss site not updated yet

cheers
Old 09-03-2006, 07:48 AM
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I'm not sure at the moment but i think he is 6Th. Iwas thinking benoit could fight for the 3rd place, it's a shame
Old 09-03-2006, 10:03 AM
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so.. not all the top pilot is going electro yet.. I thought they all soon would do it cause of the positive gains you get from electro.
but two strokes is clearly not much used anymore.
os 140 rx that was THE engine once...times changes I see.
Old 09-03-2006, 10:29 AM
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The OS1.40RX is still the most powerful, easiest to operate,tune,maintain put fuel in it an fly engine ever made as a total package. yes the YS is a killer engine and I fly them but they demand far more maint and attention to detail than the OS. I guess we can't have F-1 performance and F150 dependability.

Electrics are still in the baby stage as far as a power system. I'm betting it'll be 5 years before the avg pattern flier goes to electric. The price of equipment and such will have to come down alot before that happens, but it will happen. I'll wait until they've worked all the bugs out of these systems before I jump onto that band wagon.

Sad when the top .005% of the fliers in the world drive what happens in the rest of the pattern community.
Old 09-03-2006, 12:14 PM
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Electrics are still in the baby stage as far as a power system.
I agree re: the price.
But the latest Hacker comp special or whatever it's called is a big step forward from the others---enough power, accessible programming for non electro specialists, and the greased gearbox makes it sooo quiet.
I'm a 2 stroke dinosaur, but if I was starting today, the Hacker would be the obvious choice.
Old 09-03-2006, 02:15 PM
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hmmmm 6 of the top 10 flying YS. Does this mean some of the top pilots are looking back to YS?

We must realize the Europeans were all for the electric setup. Europe and Japan drive the boat in pattern. I guess we'll see what CAOCC will bring this week.
Old 09-03-2006, 04:08 PM
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I think the battery technology has made advances by leaps and bounds. The fire hazard has , as I understand it, been nearly eliminated in this generation of batteries. Once the avg joe flier can charge, afford and maintain these batteries with ease you'll see the IC engine die a slow death. Look what turbines have done to ducted fans, the price of turbines will continue to drop as they gain more use. The next five years will be interesting.
Old 09-03-2006, 07:34 PM
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Tim,

I disagree with you there that IC engines will die. I seriously doubt that electrics will ever dominate, I think that they have come a long way solely because of coolness factor, but I think you'll be surprised at the number of people switching back. Electrics fly pretty nice in the calm, I'll give them that, however I know for a fact that I won't switch. I've had several flyers (high placing FAI pilots at that) remark that my little dinky two stroke setup is more locked in than their electric setups are. Not to mention the fact that it's cheaper initially and in the long run. I see myself switching over to YS when the 1.70's are released to the mere mortals, however I don't think that electric is the cure all for everyone.

I know for a fact that it isn't any quieter than glow, it's every bit as noisy in the air, maybe moreso and anyone that was at the Nats can attest to that. Electrics fly slower, so that's going to be an automatic hinderance in the wind; again prevalent at the Nats. The motors and speed controllers are as expensive as a glow motor setup, not to mention the fact that I can fly a solid day of practice on an $18.00 a gallon jug of fuel. To fly electrics at all, much less with any consistency, you'll need two battery pack sets, which are more expensive than a 55 gal drum of glow fuel. Electrics are not any less burdensome maintainance wise, a good friend of mine went through three motors and speed controllers at the Nats, and hurt his flight scores, I would imagine he would have made it into the finals had he not had motor issues.

Some may call me a sour puss, but I just can't see enough redeeming qualities in electric to convince me to switch- even if the stuff was given to me. Just my humble opinion, I am but a mere Intermediate flyer. To each his own, I certainly won't chastise anyone for their choice of powerplant, but those are my observations.
Old 09-03-2006, 07:44 PM
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Ok, back to the EC....e vs. glow has been beat to death

If someone took vids of the F program....I am sure myself and many others would like to see one of the top 3 flying the rolling figure S, rolling circle, and the half outside full roll loop.

Beyond that I am relatively surprised by the 9's and 10's given out on rollers (loops and circles).....I have witnessed some damn fine rollers, but I have yet to see one that didnt have a 1 or 2 point flaw in it.
Old 09-03-2006, 08:03 PM
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Hi Ryan

Not to argue at all, let's review this subject in 5 years and see.

We'll talk about this coming weekend. You going to fly? I hope to make it.
Old 09-03-2006, 09:00 PM
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Tim,

Sounds like a plan to me. Are you still flying your Eclipse? Also, is Tom's Synergy back airworthy again? I'd like to see that fly.

Chad, I was really impressed with your rolling radii (to simplify it), as well as all the other top dogs in FAI \ at the Nats this year. I didn't watch too much of the day of the finals, I called for Pete, then fell asleep. It wasn't the best show of the maneuvers, because all of them were correcting for the wind really crazy.
Old 09-03-2006, 11:13 PM
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I too would like to see some vid of the guys over there doing F. I'm not questioning the score, I just want to see more S's than the ~40 that I've seen so far.
Old 09-04-2006, 12:55 AM
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Can someone confirm whether that was Hanno Prettner on some of those pictires doing demos?

Adrian
Old 09-04-2006, 05:01 AM
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I have taken videos, P-s, F-s and unknowns, but guess what ... the camera fell from my opened backpack to concrete sidewalk and today I have to find some repair shop. I hope that at least the casette can be saved...[]
Old 09-04-2006, 05:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: riot3d
Can someone confirm whether that was Hanno Prettner on some of those pictires doing demos?
Adrian
I was there on Saturday, but can't confirm. I know some of the pilots that flew during show, so maybe if you could point to the picture(s) I might help.

Regards,
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:57 AM
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Morning Ryan

The Eclipse has been moved to the back up model at this point. I have a new Fosuc 2 that I'm trimming right now. Not sure which I'll fly this weekend, maybe both who knows. I hope to get a few practice rounds in this week on the Focus with my coach OFB.
Old 09-05-2006, 04:19 AM
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Hi guys,
here is few pictures from Czech team.



Ales
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Old 09-05-2006, 04:26 AM
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and some more
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and the rest
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Old 09-05-2006, 04:34 AM
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Dear Alex,
can you post more info about your Spark?

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