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Old 09-13-2006, 02:05 AM
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Hi

The pilot that I remember was

Ola Fremming-Norwey ZNline OXALYS OS140RX

Kimmo Kaukoranta-Finland Abbra OS140RX

Vertrek Haijo-Netherlands Synergy OS160FX

Daniel Sayski-Israel Tornado-2 OS140FX
Old 09-13-2006, 02:49 AM
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Thank you---I'll pass the info on.
Old 09-13-2006, 03:19 AM
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Also my young team mate, Lassi Nurila was flying a two stroke. He had the OS140RX in his own design plane called "Nuristin". PÃ¥l Westerhaug from Norway was also using the OS140RX in a CA Models Genesis.

I must say that many of the models with the OS140, including mine, looked a bit underpowered/overweight. They were clearly slowing too much on top of some vertical maneuvres like the half clover. Ola's Oxalys was the exception, it was light enough for the OS. I think I need to loose some weight or get some more power under the hood...
Old 09-13-2006, 04:16 AM
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what's prop do you use ?

I personnaly use APX 17X13N actually and it run great in vertical(15% nitro-10% oil). next season i will try 18X10, a friend try it on is partner and OS 140Fi and he find it amazing.
Old 09-13-2006, 04:38 AM
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I'm running the APC 18x10 (standard, not PN) with 15% nitro, 15% oil. The 18x10 is much better than the 17x12 I used previously, better vertical and better braking. I think the main problem is the weight at around 4.8kg. I will do some lightening in the winter, lipo's for the receiver, lighter fuel tank, maybe a carbon pipe etc. It's not like the plane stops on those maneuvres, it just slows down much more than the YS160/170 powered planes.
Old 09-13-2006, 04:58 AM
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don't forget that they use between 25-30% nitro on YS!!!!
Old 09-13-2006, 09:23 AM
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Hello
Dear Macleote
If you want you could use 25 % nitro on your OS140 RX. I think you'll fly better.
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To do pleasure to our friend lolo !
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:58 PM
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The 18x10 is much better than the 17x12 I used previously, better vertical and better braking. I think the main problem is the weight
Strangely enough(on the OS160) I had the opposite problem---using an Engel carbon 18/11, the judges were complaining of too much vertical accelleration/speed, and downlines were too slow.
As someone else kindly pointed out , better throttle management should help, but I took the easier option of an APC 17/12, with less moaning from the judges as a result.
Old 09-13-2006, 01:21 PM
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Me:
Piotr Swiderek - POLAND - ZN line OXALYS - OS 140 RX-FI
Old 09-14-2006, 02:29 AM
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Was there any gas engines and how they managed compared to glow 2-stroke powered setups?
Old 09-14-2006, 08:48 AM
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Yes, probably 1 GAS engine - SM 30 in Prestige:
Krzysztof Urbanski - POLAND - Wistmodel PRESTIGE - SM 30
More: http://www.f3a.com.pl/prestige.htm

About 200 photos from F3A European Championship 2006 on my site: http://www.swiderek-f3a.pl

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Piotr Swiderek
Old 09-14-2006, 11:48 AM
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ORIGINAL: piotrekpepe

Yes, probably 1 GAS engine - SM 30 in Prestige:
Krzysztof Urbanski - POLAND - Wistmodel PRESTIGE - SM 30
More: http://www.f3a.com.pl/prestige.htm

About 200 photos from F3A European Championship 2006 on my site: http://www.swiderek-f3a.pl

Best regards
Piotr Swiderek
Oh of course I have ordered some parts from him in past.
Old 09-14-2006, 04:45 PM
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Heyyy papaone!!! how are you dear friend!!!!! is our french naruke building a new awesome pattern plane during the winter season ????
Old 09-15-2006, 04:07 AM
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Hello Macleote
yeah I decide to do my own plane. Fuselage will be built in wood.
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:19 AM
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is our french naruke building a new awesome pattern plane during the winter season ????
Not so much Naruke as Rodin, or Bernini, or even Michaelangelo!
Old 09-15-2006, 05:41 AM
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How about the Mintor 170? It is such a nice looking engine, is anyone in Europe having success with this engine?
Old 09-15-2006, 06:12 AM
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Just about everyone bought one, then sold them on several flights later.
Old 09-15-2006, 07:11 AM
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Hello MPX 4000

Friends of mine (Julien and Olivier Quellier got 3 differents Mintor to test them).
They gave up theses engines. Very long and difficult to set up and engine stop in flight with no reason.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:23 AM
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Thank you Bla Bla and Papaone!

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Old 09-15-2006, 08:32 AM
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ORIGINAL: papaone
They gave up theses engines. Very long and difficult to set up and engine stop in flight with no reason.
Living very close to the Mintor plant (about 100km from here), we visited them several times and also tried to help by giving suggestions on how to improve the engine's reliability, which was the main problem. Power was never an issue as the 140 (but also the 170) had plenty. Our friendly approach was eventually turned down without notice once a new team member and test pilot dropped in. Never heard from them since. It's a pity, because the engines are a beauty to look at and - for once - spare parts were truly around the corner from where we live.... and not in Japan!
We have also given up trying to make the engine work: those of us who tried reverted back to the truly problem-free OS 140 RX.
They are now in the business for multi-cylinder engines. Bad tongues say that if they are unable to make even one cylinder work, it will be very unlikely that they will succeed with the newer engines...

But now back to electric power, shall we?

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Old 09-15-2006, 04:17 PM
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Hey Papaone,
Great looking design. Any chance of getting a set of plans? (at your price of course) There are still a few of us that like to build (especially wood fuselages with 1-piece wings!!)
Regards,
Will Bartlett
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Hello Will
This is the Addiction by Starcraft
http://www.starcraft.co.jp/
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Please send me your e-mail address. I 'll send you some informations.
As you, I like to build wood plane.
My own design plane named Legend. Fuse in wood with 1 piece wing made in foam and balsa.

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Old 09-16-2006, 11:46 AM
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Hey Papaone,
I sent you and email.
Your legend looks great - especially for a wood fuselage! I hope Mike Hester sees this (he designed the 'Black Magic'). I'd love to have plans for your Legend!
Thanks for the Starcraft website. Great looking pattern ships, but I don't think they sell 'basic' kits (just the unassembled parts), I wish they did!
Happy Flying,
Will
Old 09-16-2006, 11:55 AM
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That Legend is very good looking!
Old 09-16-2006, 01:14 PM
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Hello Will
Thanks you for your congratulation about plane Legend. I have the plan et send you if you want.
A friend of mine bought the kit of Addiction version 1 like you see on pictures . Dealer of Starcraft speaks english and is very nice guy.
He answers very quickly at the differents questions. Kit is complete and great quality.
Yes I like planes of mike Hester. Very good posts about building wood plane.

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