Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Anyone got any more info on this bird found on Flitons' new competition web pages?
http://www.flitoncompetition.com/com...on_rogue3d.php

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

That is just to Kewl!:D:D

Does anyone know what the price is on it yet?


Regards,
Bill H.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

It will go for $800.00 USD, release date is around December 08, I will be flying one for the 09 season.
Alex, can give you more info. I can say this, the Element Bipe was beening flown, well before the Element 170
was put in production

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Bill, we need one of these, EACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm putting in my order right now. errrrrrrr If I can figure out how. :D

Serioulsy though I'm going to order one. You? Any idea how to?

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Jarvis,
Are they going to sell an arc version?
Greg

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Oh boy ... this is terrible! Another plane that needs to be owned!!! She looks great to me and she's affordable if its at $800.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

I not sure, I will ask Alex, this weekend. An I will let you know, the next shipping of Elements, come in the 1st week of of October.
That shippment will have 1 Element Bipe 170, that will be flown at the Dist 7 Chmpionship. This past weekend I test flew Tak's Element
170, with a DZ170, weight was 10.7 lbs, need to play with the CG and throws. But it flew nice.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Jarvis ... the Element flies really nice? :)

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Tim,.........I agree,...We need one of those!:D Had I known about the Bipe I would have ordered that instead,...would have saved me some money,..LOL! I will for certian order a bipe if it's around $800.00 U.S. Dollars.

I have the Element 170 composite on the way in this shipment. I hope to have it for the Dist. #2 Championships for display,..don't think I can get it ready before then.

You can e-mail Alex shim at Fliton,....His email is posted on page 6,...I think,...really nice guy.

Regards,
Bill Holsten

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

If that bipe is around $800, I'll be ordering one too! LOL

Anybody have any specs?

-Mike

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Mike ... ever flown a F3A bipe? Anyone tried one? What is the difference? I am curious to know.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Yeah,...I would think maybe an all wood version may be $800.00,..doubt the composite would be, unless it is a mixture of both?;)

But if so,...heck yeah Mike get one to play with,..LOL.:D


Regards,
Bill H.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Any one know what the weight is?

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

The $800 version is all wood. I talked to Alex today. Jan 09 earliest date.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

All wood covered (arf) or uncovered (arc)?

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Yes, available ARC too. you need to pre-order
contact 213-321-2997

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Well $800.00 U.S. dollars seems like a great price,..time will tell!:D So,...how much is the composite version going to be,.....I guess,..............(this could be painful:))$2,500.00 based on the cost of the mono wing Element 170 composite,...still a great price considering everything out there in bipes and mono-wings.

In the wood version,....ARF, ARC and glassed fuse and wings is an option?



Regards,

Bill Holsten

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Man I like how this model can be bought as a wood arf. I might even have to get one. they sure do look sweet. Something cool to play around with. I like it.:D

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

I wonder what size and weight are going to be? I don't see how you can get a legal biplane that cheap.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Yeah,...measurements and dimensions and weights would be nice, since there is a proto-type already flying from what I understand. Fliton seems to do it's home work before they release a product,...should be interesting to see the actual numbers on the finished product for the consumer/end user.:D

Still cool looking!:D


Regards,
Bill Holsten

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Its true Fliton so take their time ... guess they are not rushing out to make money only. Looks like they know how not to rush. Some of my F3A pals have seen the bipe pics and they are excited too. A F3A bipe at USD800! I hear Fliton have 50cc/100cc/150cc planes to be out soon.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

man. that bipe turns me on

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Snap Roll admitted to me that after seeing the plane his keyboards got messy! Heheheheee ... soon one will be going your way i am sure, can't wait to see you fly one and film that big smile.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

$800.00 is that for the ARF or ARC?
Greg Grigsby

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Oh no, my secret is let out [:@] . haha

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

tIANci; I'm flying the ZN Suxess as a B-model to my ZN Oxalys.. The flight characteristics are way different! I do love to fly the Suxess, but it does have some strange "bipe-habits"!
At any time, I have 5 active mixes on the plane to make it track straight. For instance aileron to throttle mix (about 20%!). A lot of aileron to rudder mix etc. I have 4 servos on 4 serperate channels for the ailerons, so they take up a bit of mixing..
But once all the mixing is done, it is a lovely aircraft! It is SLOW and very graceful. Presents very well!
Most bipes do not like winds though.. And they are mainly designed around the F-programs and unknowns. (My experience comes purely from the Suxess..). Mine does not track as smooth as the Oxalys, but the rolls, snaps and spins are just amazing once everything is set up correctly.
I actually had my Suxess out for sale, but then took it for a couple of flights... That changed my mind :)

So I might not recommend a bipe as a beginner F3A, nor the only F3A model (Yes, please do arrest me here...). But they (at least mine) are great to fly and will open some eyes on the field! But do bear in mind that thay might be more than challenging in windy conditions.

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Hello. Pattern Members
Here is update information

1. Weight of Element 170 Biplane

Fuge : 1,200 grams
43.32 oz

wing : 620 gram / each (total 1,400 grams)
21.86 oz/each (total : 44 oz)

tail wings : 152 grams
5.36 oz

wing area : 50.75dm (each)
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( R&D Said. Generally, area counting is 2nd wing area is 1.5 of main wing)

2. Sizec of Bi Plane
wing : 1,820mm (71.65 inch)
fuge : 1,970mm (77.55 inch) from spinner to tail
spinner Dia.: 72mm


Alex

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Are you interasting about ARC version?
Contact to Alex from www.flitoncompetition.com

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

Thinn ... thanks for the info. I realised that the F3A bipes have about 40%-45% more wing area than a mono winged F3A plane. Guess that means a lighter wing loading. That also would mean the plane climbs better. Did your Suxess KE with any coupling?

RE: Fliton Element Bipe 170
 

The Suxess does not climb better than the Oxalys... Rather the oposite.. (I have an YS160 w/APC 18.1x10 in the Oxalys and an YS170 w/APC18.1x11 in the suxess).
In KE I have a lot of roll and "pich" (elevator) coupling. I fixed this with a couple of free mixers! It is the first plane I've KE-looped with no problems. This is one of the joys of the bipes!