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Fellow pattern flyers,
I have the possibility of obtaining a kit of Akiba's '97 F3A entry, the Beat On, in a reduced 52" span scale for OS 32 power. Does anyone have any information, links and/or plans of this aircraft to share? The kit was produced by OK Models - Pilot and was being auctioned recently. In terms of size, this model is very similar to CPLR's Oxalys recently sold by Kyosho as an ARF (now replaced by CPLR's Osmose). Thanks in advance, David. |
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I had an EZ Beat On 50 (odd name) with a YS 53. I flew the model fewer than a dozen times and was very pleased. The belly pan came partially off in flight while a pal was flying and was landed successfully. The large fuselage volume made for a nice constant speed. I have an Oxalys 50 with a YS 63 which seems seems similar although lighter. There was a Beat On kit on the RCu "Buy Sell" at a fair price as well. Rusty Dose Team Futaba Team YS Parts and Service |
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Build this plane a landing gear on the fuselage rather than.... under the wings.. it will look awesome.:D believe me yes just like the Oxalys
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That looks a lot like a Spot On 50/120 (the world models)
http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/p...image/A250.jpg |
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Thanks for your replies guys,
I like the looks of canard type gear on modern 2m ships but I sense that it may have some adverse effect on a model this size. I also have the feeling that CPLR's canalizer assists in "balancing" the flight of his designs particularly with respect to the LG protruding the bottom of the aircraft. In the absence of a canalizer, I would think it best to build the model with retracts. An option would be to modify it to include a canalizer with the fixed gear. HF3D, do you have a good source for canard gear for a model this size? Mmm... maybe a modded Beat On. Might be an interesting idea - slower and more constant flight. I'm interested in this design as a test entry into model 2m pattern design as I'm primarily a classic builder. Rusty, how would you compare the Beat On with the Oxalys? Was your Beat On an EZ ARF? David. |
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Mart,
yea, WM has a number of pattern ships that are similar to this one including the Spot On 50, the Aero Pet 50, the Groovy 50 and even the Tai Ji 40. Including the Beat On (I called it 30 because of 2c power I intended to use but it is actually called a BO 50) and the Oxalys, all these models constitute a decent crop of 55" span small pattern ships. The Beat On is however the only one I've seen in kit form and is probably overpriced even though it's undoubtedly a nice kit. David. |
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As I was writing the post above regarding the possible mod with a canalizer and fixed canard gear, I was thinking specifically of a design that blends the canalizer into the fuse/canopy that I'd seen somewhere. Now, I know that it was (I believe to be) CPLR's latest design - the Axiome. Andrea Bresci just posted this photo of his Axiome in a current thread. I like this layout better than that in the Oxalys. Actually it looks like the evolution of the Canalizer from the Oxalys to the Osmose (the Osmose actually has a variant called the Osmose Evolution) to the Axiome.
What do you guys think? David. P.S. BTW, it looks like CPLR's prototype Axiome has an anhedral stab! |
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I have all three versions of BeatOn commercially made available from Pilot/OK model.
BeatOn 90, BeatOn 50 ARF and the same subject laser cut kit from Pilot. The kit version has a builder's choice of two different wing. The 30/50 size are being stored at home as I like to collect them. If you plan on using a 30 size 2 stroke, be sure to have a tuned pipe on it. Otherwise, use a YS63 or 53. OS 52/56 will also do ok. BeatOn maybe the first available kit version with widebody type. |
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PatternFlyer,
thanks for your post. I haven't yet received my kit but am anxious to have a look at the plans. Do you have a digital version (either the 30 or 90) that you could share with me? If not, would it be possible to send me some pictures of the plans? These should allow me to start some planning on the model. Thanks, David. |
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David,
90 size was only available in ARC versions. I believe about 4 or 5 were sold in the states. Since I haven't built the 30/50 size kit, no I don't have any plan available in digital version. In my area, there isn't any Kinkos around to make a copy of plans. I will try what I can on the 30 size kit for pictures. All pilot kits are in separate boxs, so I need to move some boxes around before I can get to it. Ihncheol |
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Ihncheol
I appreciate your offer to take some pictures when you have a chance. You mentioned the need to use a pipe on a 2c 32 which is what I planned on doing if possible. The other option would be to set it up for electric - again, if it makes sense. I'd like to see if the design is essentially a miniature version of some current F3A designs with a removable belly pan running the length of the fuse bottom from the wing TE to the firewall. In other words, whether the engine is intended to be mounted inverted with the pipe running concealed along the bottom center of the wing. It looks like the wing is one piece rather than plug-in and I see what looks like a belly pan on the wing but I just can't tell whether it's only partial (wing chord) or full (chord plus fuse front). David. |
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This may already be old news but for those who haven't yet seen this, I thought you might find it interesting.
I think this can be described as the first formal entry in F3A ARF reduced scale (1.3 m) pattern designs from a major industry player. Is this a sign of things to come...? I speculated in another thread that QQ's addition to the HH team would produce ARF's like these; albeit from a different manufacturer. We'll see what the competition comes up with. The smaller companies (well, Kyosho can't quite be described as "smaller") are already doing their share as testified earlier in this thread. Last attachment is a PDF file which can be saved by right clicking and renaming with .pdf extension. What do you guys think? It might give the Element 30 and the Aspera a run for their money... David. P.S. First photo is of G4.5 simulator model. |
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For those who are interested, here are the plans. I took a better scan of the parts diagram on the bottom of the plans. Save the files as a PDF.
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Wow Pedro!
This totally rocks!!! Can't thank you enough. Fascinating - it's kinda built like a Dalotel. Of course, in order to scratch this baby it might take a year just to produce the kit! A laser cutter on the other hand... The only limitation would be the cowl and canopy. The latter can probably be done by clever guys on this forum. The former would require at least a dummy cowl layered (a couple of layers of 2 oz cloth might do the trick) on top of the exiting one to produce a mold. If that's something that you might be inclined to doing, please drop me a line. Thanks, David. P.S. Gotta love the way the Japanese do their tanks: 220cc in a cube! |
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Hi David here's a pix of my OK Mode/Pilotl Beat On 30 built from kit. I did some modifications to reinforce the fuse as I found it a bit on the weak side.
It will use a YS63FZ-S as power plant, has 40size supra retracts, MK control horns all around, covered with monokote. Regards, Gerard |
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Gerard,
Beautifully done! If you get a chance, it'd be great to see your retract/servo installation as well as radio if you have done that. David. |
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I thought some of you might like to see a video I found of the Sequence in flight:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXWWM1&P=7 They should be out in a month or two! Specs re-attached as a PDF. David. |
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I would love to see a larger glow version(60-90 or so) of the Sequence. Great looking plane.
ORIGINAL: doxilia This may already be old news but for those who haven't yet seen this, I thought you might find it interesting. I think this can be described as the first formal entry in F3A ARF reduced scale (1.3 m) pattern designs from a major industry player. Is this a sign of things to come...? I speculated in another thread that QQ's addition to the HH team would produce ARF's like these; albeit from a different manufacturer. We'll see what the competition comes up with. The smaller companies (well, Kyosho can't quite be described as ''smaller'') are already doing their share as testified earlier in this thread. Last attachment is a PDF file which can be saved by right clicking and renaming with .pdf extension. What do you guys think? It might give the Element 30 and the Aspera a run for their money... David. P.S. First photo is of G4.5 simulator model. |
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Well,
knowing how GP goes about things, that might actually happen in a year or so! Actually, rewinding 27 years, GP's was making 60 size pattern models like the one below. The one shown below is however an addition to my growing fleet of mini pattern aircraft. Maybe history will reverse itself and instead of us making mini pattern aircraft of larger ones, we'll now have the opposite! My almost finished scratched 40" span Tiporare (Picorare ;)). Just getting those linkages sorted out. I sometimes wonder if that stuff takes longer than framing up a model! :eek: Those of you who follow the classic pattern forum may have already seen these. David. |
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Nice cover job!
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Well, I certainly left this thread hanging!
More recent activity on the Beat on 30/50 in this thread: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9756289/tm.htm Thanks for the comment on my little Tipo ro347! She should do some more flying this summer. David. |
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