AR630 RX Forward Programming help
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Forward programm settings are stored in the receiver so you need the receiver bound to the transmitter and powered up. Then the forward programming option will appear in the transmitter menu.
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Understood. My Eratix is outfitted with an AR630 rx. I need to increase the gains, but Forward Programming only allows activating SAFE Select. I see the gains listed when I roll several screens from the main screen but cannot select them. Any advice? Note that I had to replace the Avian ESC which I assumed only gave battery status. Thanks
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rcfs (03-27-2023)
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Thank you Andy for taking the time to help. The video covers information that I’m very experienced with. I Reset the AR630 using the Spektrum Programmer. I was asked if I was sure I wanted to Reset, and I said OK, but did not get any confirmation that the receiver had been reset. There was no option to “Factory Reset”
When I select Forward Programming > Gyro Settings > I only have SAFE Select to choose. I assigned Aux 1, although, it only gave me FM 2 & 3. Switch pos FM 1 displays as FM 2. The home screen indicates 3 Flight Modes when I toggle switch B, but not within Forward Programming.
I still don't have “Other Settings” displayed in Forward Programming. Do you think the receiver was in fact Reset? Also, I have not seen any mention of “unlock” anywhere in my all my efforts.
Thanks again for your help.
Dave Scott
1st RC Flight School
When I select Forward Programming > Gyro Settings > I only have SAFE Select to choose. I assigned Aux 1, although, it only gave me FM 2 & 3. Switch pos FM 1 displays as FM 2. The home screen indicates 3 Flight Modes when I toggle switch B, but not within Forward Programming.
I still don't have “Other Settings” displayed in Forward Programming. Do you think the receiver was in fact Reset? Also, I have not seen any mention of “unlock” anywhere in my all my efforts.
Thanks again for your help.
Dave Scott
1st RC Flight School
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I got it Andy! Although the Programmer said that no updates were available, I went to Spektrum and downloaded the latest firmware and it updated, giving me Options in Forward programming. Woohoo
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Yes, the version that is in the receiver as-shipped is the same version as the download, but the receiver knows it is operating in OEM mode. You have to update the code to break it free and get access to the full features.
I'm glad to hear you got it going, Dave.
Andy
I'm glad to hear you got it going, Dave.
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I'm not sure whether I'm posting this in the right place,but . . . . I am trying to program a new Spektrum AR630 AS3X receiver with my DX9 transmitter, for installation in a new Durafly Mk11 1100mm Spitfire.
I updated the TX to version 2..09 (although I cannot find how to import the fact to my registrations screen at Spectrum .com, despite the instruction on P.9 of the manual).
I updated RX by downloading the “Spektrum AS3X Updater Software" (which turned out to be Spektrum Programmer Beta) to my PC and connecting the PC to the RX with cable SPMA 3065.
I searched the Spektrum website for guidance on Forward Programming and found videos by Ali Machinchy and John Adams, who both stress that initial programming should not be applied to the ailerons, elevator or rudder, even as to the servo reversing function. This is contrary to the supplied instruction booklet, which says that the initial setup, prior to entering Forward Programming, should include all control functions, including flying control surfaces.In the videos, both Al and John use a smartphone displaying the Spectrum AS3X Programmer app, connected wirelessly to the receiver installed in the model. However, when I tried to download the app to my Android smartphone, I received the message that it was not available for my smartphone because it (the app) “was made for an older version of Android”!
Therefore I resorted to following the instructions in the booklet supplied with the receiver, having first installed the receiver and aligned all the control surfaces to neutral mechanically. The initial programming worked perfectly and all servos operated correctly, so I continued to Forward Programming and completed the receiver orientation section. I got as far as setting flight modes (I wanted to create a Flight Mode 0 to disable AS3X if necessary) but could not work out how to do it, as I have never used flight modes before. So turned off to try again later.
Next time, I tried to start from the beginning but found the initial settings (before “Forward Programming”) had gone wrong, the reverse settings were lost and there was now no elevator movement, so I deleted the model from the transmitter and tried to create a new model. However this time the “RC Port Assignments” function would not allow me to set port 5 to Gear. After initial setup, I had functional throttle and aileron controls, but no elevator or rudder movement and ridiculously small flap movement despite this being set at 15 and 30 degrees.Continuing with little confidence into the Gyros section of Forward Programming this seemed to go normally although I didn’t get further than orientating the receiver position. There was no reaction by the servos to the model being moved from a level attitude. I did not go as far as setting flight modes or gain as I have no idea how to do either. I had a look at the display screen for setting gain and could make no sense of it at all.
After further attempts at starting from the beginning, , there is now no response to any of the controls except aileron and throttle, which is reversed.
Should I reset the RX to default? or buy an older smartphone?
I updated the TX to version 2..09 (although I cannot find how to import the fact to my registrations screen at Spectrum .com, despite the instruction on P.9 of the manual).
I updated RX by downloading the “Spektrum AS3X Updater Software" (which turned out to be Spektrum Programmer Beta) to my PC and connecting the PC to the RX with cable SPMA 3065.
I searched the Spektrum website for guidance on Forward Programming and found videos by Ali Machinchy and John Adams, who both stress that initial programming should not be applied to the ailerons, elevator or rudder, even as to the servo reversing function. This is contrary to the supplied instruction booklet, which says that the initial setup, prior to entering Forward Programming, should include all control functions, including flying control surfaces.In the videos, both Al and John use a smartphone displaying the Spectrum AS3X Programmer app, connected wirelessly to the receiver installed in the model. However, when I tried to download the app to my Android smartphone, I received the message that it was not available for my smartphone because it (the app) “was made for an older version of Android”!
Therefore I resorted to following the instructions in the booklet supplied with the receiver, having first installed the receiver and aligned all the control surfaces to neutral mechanically. The initial programming worked perfectly and all servos operated correctly, so I continued to Forward Programming and completed the receiver orientation section. I got as far as setting flight modes (I wanted to create a Flight Mode 0 to disable AS3X if necessary) but could not work out how to do it, as I have never used flight modes before. So turned off to try again later.
Next time, I tried to start from the beginning but found the initial settings (before “Forward Programming”) had gone wrong, the reverse settings were lost and there was now no elevator movement, so I deleted the model from the transmitter and tried to create a new model. However this time the “RC Port Assignments” function would not allow me to set port 5 to Gear. After initial setup, I had functional throttle and aileron controls, but no elevator or rudder movement and ridiculously small flap movement despite this being set at 15 and 30 degrees.Continuing with little confidence into the Gyros section of Forward Programming this seemed to go normally although I didn’t get further than orientating the receiver position. There was no reaction by the servos to the model being moved from a level attitude. I did not go as far as setting flight modes or gain as I have no idea how to do either. I had a look at the display screen for setting gain and could make no sense of it at all.
After further attempts at starting from the beginning, , there is now no response to any of the controls except aileron and throttle, which is reversed.
Should I reset the RX to default? or buy an older smartphone?
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If you can see Factory Reset on the Forward Programming options, use it.
Then watch this video series. It takes you step by step. It's what I use.
The most important thing is to NOT USE FP at first. Set up the transmitter to fly the model WITHOUT it, then fly the model. AFTER you fly, then you start configuring the receiver.
Andy
Then watch this video series. It takes you step by step. It's what I use.
The most important thing is to NOT USE FP at first. Set up the transmitter to fly the model WITHOUT it, then fly the model. AFTER you fly, then you start configuring the receiver.
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Thanks Andy - but I suspect it's too complicated for me to learn in the time available - which is the time it will take for me to crash the model without AS3X!
In future I will avoid AS3X unless it comes already set-up in an ARF model .
PS:- I have now reset the receiver but only two channels work - the others smell as if they are burned out.
In future I will avoid AS3X unless it comes already set-up in an ARF model .
PS:- I have now reset the receiver but only two channels work - the others smell as if they are burned out.
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To continue the saga, I discovered that the receiver, after resetting, worked fine. but two servos and the speed controller were burned out, now replaced, and I have completed the initial setup.
First flight was disastrous as I accidentally set high rate on elevator! All now repaired but not yet reflown.
Thanks Andy for your help, I will play the video multiple times to try and understand it, but am not optimistic as it says that at least one spare channel is required, and and all six channels of my AR630 are already used.
Strange - as my old E-flite Spitfire had all the same functions as the Durafly Spit and was factory fitted with a six channel AR636 receiver with working AS3X.
So I might have to buy a 7 or 8 channel receiver?
First flight was disastrous as I accidentally set high rate on elevator! All now repaired but not yet reflown.
Thanks Andy for your help, I will play the video multiple times to try and understand it, but am not optimistic as it says that at least one spare channel is required, and and all six channels of my AR630 are already used.
Strange - as my old E-flite Spitfire had all the same functions as the Durafly Spit and was factory fitted with a six channel AR636 receiver with working AS3X.
So I might have to buy a 7 or 8 channel receiver?
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Spare channel is in your TRANSMITTER not your receiver. So you want a 7 channel transmitter to have 6 servo plus the "spare" channel to serve as your flight mode control. That's why our NX6 has 7 channels (6 1/2 really).
Since you're using a DX9, you have 3 spare channels to choose from. That receiver is actually listening for 20 channels to come in, not just 6.
Andy
Since you're using a DX9, you have 3 spare channels to choose from. That receiver is actually listening for 20 channels to come in, not just 6.
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Spare channel is in your TRANSMITTER not your receiver. So you want a 7 channel transmitter to have 6 servo plus the "spare" channel to serve as your flight mode control. That's why our NX6 has 7 channels (6 1/2 really).
Since you're using a DX9, you have 3 spare channels to choose from. That receiver is actually listening for 20 channels to come in, not just 6.
Andy
Since you're using a DX9, you have 3 spare channels to choose from. That receiver is actually listening for 20 channels to come in, not just 6.
Andy