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9C vs. 8103

Old 12-11-2002, 02:12 PM
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Default 9C vs. 8103

What the original poster failed to note is what type of radio he has now.
I love my XP8103 (go figger!). Had it since 1998 and back THEN I paid like $469 for it. So the fact that you can get a new one for essentially the same price is AMAZING! Being able to program switches is a nice to have feature BUT, for the lion's share of the modelers, this feature will probably not be used anywhere near to the level at which it makes the feature make sense. It makes almost NO sense to move their locations on different aricraft as it would only add confusion. An the 8103 can be had with digital servos while the 9C is supplied with garden variety sport servos. That accounts for SOME of the difference in price.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

As xp8103 states "It makes almost NO sense to move their locations on different aricraft as it would only add confusion". Which is quite true and potentially dangerous if you are not consistent.

The real advantage is being able to put a particular function exactly where you want it. Plus, being able to assign multiple functions to a single switch.

Example: I had/have a Hitec Prism 7 and Prism 7x. On the 7 a single switch activated d/r for all three control surfaces...on the 7x it took three separate switches...one on each surface. The 7x was the "better" radio but that feature drove me nuts. I felt like I was firing up the space shuttle when I wanted hi-rates.

I do wish that my 9C has cross trims but that only comes with the bigger toy. And I hear that the 10Z is a monster to prgram.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I will add this comment....all of my fellow flyers are jealous of my 9C. After my *****ing about the manual do not get the idea that I am unhappy with the radio. It is great. I have been clearing out radios and moving everything to the 9c.

I am still trying to sell off a T6XA and a Hitec 7X
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Default 9C vs. 8103

Just for info, Chief Aircraft has the 8103's with 811 digis for a $379 and I think $50 off the PCM receiver till the end of the year.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

The real competition will be between the 9C and the new 9X. The 8103 is a nice radio but the 9C is more in tune with modern radio needs.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

How so? It's not functionally that advanced over the 8103. Bells and whistles, perhaps, but actual useful functions? They're in the same class.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I would pay 100 dollars over the cost of the 8103 for the flexibility of assignable switches. After using them in my older Airtronics it is impossible to go back. Nothing against the 8103 as I have flown one or two and they were nice. I do wish the 9C had the equivalent of the 811 servos though, but switch assignment sealed the deal for me.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

Originally posted by Flyfalcons
I would pay 100 dollars over the cost of the 8103 for the flexibility of assignable switches. After using them in my older Airtronics it is impossible to go back. Nothing against the 8103 as I have flown one or two and they were nice. I do wish the 9C had the equivalent of the 811 servos though, but switch assignment sealed the deal for me.
Solution: Buy your 9C TX from Servo City and your over-priced servos from Horizon.
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Default 9C or 8103... to be or not 2b...

My flying buddy has the 9c which I bought for him as part of the deal for his building my Mick Reeves Spitfire. He is delighted with it and claims that it has exponential on the throttle while the 8103 does not. He also claims that it is easier to program separate aileraon channels.

I cannot argue with his because I misplaced the 8103 manual. I will download a copy from the source above... thanks.

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What is the difference between "street priced" and "price fixing" ?
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Default All JR manuals?

I need the manual for a 622 I just got-

Anyone got any ideas where I might find it? Or should I just sell it and buy another flihgt pack for my 9C?

Thanks in advance,
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Default Re: All JR manuals?

Originally posted by Razor
I need the manual for a 622 I just got-

Anyone got any ideas where I might find it? Or should I just sell it and buy another flihgt pack for my 9C?

Thanks in advance,
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Horizon Has it on line. Try this http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/shar...812-manual.pdf
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Default tx only

Can you get and 8103 tx only new anywhere?
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JR ALL THE WAY MY 8103 IS ROCK SOLID IN MY BIG BIRDS AND MY HELIS.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I had to choose between these two also and I ended up going with JR. The entire package was $389.99
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Default 9C vs. 8103

Switch assignability is neat, but I have never had to, or wanted to change where things were. Neat feature, but not neat enough for me to switch. Also do not like digital throttle trims. .03.5
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I own a JR X-3810 ( same as 8103) and it really is an awesome radio. As far as changing setting, modes etc. I doubt you get a more user friendly radio. It is so easy to program that most of the functions i managed to figure out without looking at the manual. I use this radio for all my planes (as well as a boat) I could not imagine any feature that you would need that this radio does not have. Having said that i have not used the Futaba radio. I'm sure that it to is a fine piece of equipment. My advice is go to your LHS and try both. But my experience with the JR radio has all been positive.
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Default 9c vs. 8103

I bought an 8103 years ago when it first came out, and have been entirely plesed with it. However, I did miss my selectable switches AND selectable shift from my old Vision.

A year ago, I sold the Vision and went to buy a second 8103 at the LHS. I ended up walking out with the 9C, even lacking compatibility with my existing receivers. The increase feature list was impressive, for those that use a lot of mixing, expo, etc. I fly competition Fun Fly, so I use a lot of the features. It was also about $100 dollars cheaper than the JR, and the JR has to be close to its' cycle life. When is that new product coming? I did not want to pay top dollar for the same radio I bought 6 years ago!

The LHS treats customers well. He even swapped out servos to stuff I could use, trading dollar-for-dollar at customer prices.

Unfortuanately, with use, I find I still like the JR better. Just like the feel of it. I have no trouble making the Futaba dance when it comes to programming. But there really is a different feel, which you do not appreciate until day-to-day handling.

If I had to do it again, I would probably do the same thing. Just miss the feel. Also miss the DataSafe, but with Futaba I can save programs on cheap ($5) clone-paks.
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I am trying to decide between these two radios also. As I look at them, one of the selling points of the 9C is that it has proportional slider switches on the side, enabling you to adjust them without moving your hands off the sticks and not having control of the aircraft, however briefly. As I think about it, that left switch would sure be nice to program for the flaperons on my hard-to-slow Aresti. I have a JR X-347 now, and to use the flaperons on it I have to let go of the throttle stick with my left hand and adjust a knob on the top. And it would be the same way with the 8103.

One of the selling points of the 8103 is the mechanical trim setting on the throttle, but I'm wondering exactly how important that is. Any comments on this?

I'm leaning toward the Futaba...
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Default 9C vs. 8103

I recently wen through the same thing. I looked at both the 9C and the 8103. I choose the 9C even though I had never had a Futaba Radio.

My reasons were simple. Ease of programming and flexibility.
Both were pretty easy to program. However I found the dial on the 9C easier to use.

For Flexibility the 9C wins Hands down. You can program pretty much any function to any switch. You can't do the same on the JR. I have never had much use for Analog trims. Digital have been just fine. I just set of a switch as a Throttle cut/idle if I need to.
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remember in FM mode the Futaba has only 8 channels (9 in pcm). Both are excellent radios but if you compare price/features the Futaba is the better deal.
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I think i am going to get the 9C transmitter. I've got the servos already and stuff. Anyone know the best place to buy just the transmitter?

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