victorzamora

I've been looking through 2.4GHz transmitters, and have realized that the 9303 and the 10c are very similar in more ways than I would've thought. They've got about the same price, about the same # of channels, Rx's are about the same price, etc.

Besides the usual "Futaba vs JR" fight, what are the differences between the 9303 and the 10c? What features does one have that the other doesn't? I know that the 10c hasn't quite come out yet...but there's probably a lot more information out there than I know about. Anywho, any opinions are welcome!

DougV

FYI: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_72..._1/key_/tm.htm

victorzamora

I looked for nearly an hour for that! I was surprised no one had started one. No surprise now I guess...
Now, how to get this foot outta my mouth....anyone?

summerwind

right now it's more like which one can one get...........JR is on the ball and has been available, while Futaba is pulling their usual waiting game...........they can't even give us pre-paid customers a look at the manual for the 10C.
the replies from the JR owners tell us that the 9303 is everything you could want, so it's really nearly impossible to tell which one is better in terms of features.

victorzamora

It seems like the switch assignability is a huge difference, pro for Futaba. Another is a point to JR, Model Select. The 9303 has a 30-model memory, the 10c has 10 +CamPac option.

The 10c has logic switches, does the 9303? Also, I know that the 10c is module-based and the 9303 is a dedicated system...but does the 10c come with a 72MHz module? Also, I saw that the 10c has "Mode 1-4 selectable (Modes 3 & 4 programmable)." Does this mean you can assign servos to the sticks? That would help with like all those custom R/C applications outside of planes.

pilotpete2

Hi Victor,
Note: the 10C has 15 model memories plus Campac, not 10.

The 10C does not come with a 72Mhz module, but it does use the one you may already have, as it uses the same one as the 9C[8D]
Regards,
Pete

Flyfalcons

You say that as if JR doesn't do the same thing with their stuff? (12X hint hint)

summerwind

my bad, i thought we were talking about the 9303 and the 10C (which has been pushed back twice now[:@])............at least JR hits close to their predicted marks

victorzamora

Thanks for the info Pete. I must've had a brain fart about the 15 model memory, I guess the 10c got my numbers mixed up. I'm kind of under the weather at the moment, so I'm not really focused anyway[&o]. It'd be great if the 10c came with both 72 and 2.4 modules, but then the price would go up. I currently have a 7c and oddly enough I don't have a module for a 9c .

Flyfalcons

The 9C is nearly as capable as the 9303 (in some cases more), and was out five years ago. [8D] Just try not to play it off like Futaba is the only mfg that pushes back release dates.

pilotpete2

Bummer, but while they're 50 bucks new, I'm sure they can be had for a song used
I have the TM-8 module in my 9C, so for now I'm flying on both bands, I wish I could retire the 72Mhz module real soon, I could make you such a deal
Regards, and please get out from under the weather, real soon.
Pete

victorzamora

Well, I got an umbrella and ran to my car and drove about 3.74853 miles NNW and got out from under it (sudafed and a good night's rest). Just a lil cold.
Haha, let me know when you get rid of it. I might buy it just to be "complete." Does the 10c come with a case? If not I'll have to buy a Futaba brand case .

Gungadin

Yea well speaking as a 9C owner it's a matter of opinion (yours) as to the capability equality of the 9C vs the X9303 or even the straight 9303 for that matter. Oh and by the way I was told that the NEW date for the 10C is now the end of June.

Flyfalcons

It's not opinion, there are measurable differences between the two radios. For example, the 9C has switch assignment and trimmable p-mixes. Drinking JR Kool-Aid does not necessarily make a radio better, even though it is a fine radio by any standard.

What's the NEW release date on the 12X?

Zeeb

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Horizon told me and the hobby shop where mine is backordered, have both indicated that the first shipment of the 12X has been moved back two weeks; late May/early June.

Oh, and one other significant difference between the 9C and the X9303 is that you have 9 proportional channels to use on the X9303 where the 9C has eight with the ninth channel being on/off. IIRC, the new 10C will have the same eight proportional channels with two on/off channels?

I will say the only thing I miss about Futaba radios is switch assignability and some mix capability I had with my 9Z which is missing from my X9303. I must say however that it is hardly fair to compare a $1200.00 radio to a $600.00 radio where that mixing capability is concerned. I think the 12X will solve those mixing differences as well as having better switch assignment choices.

GBR2

My Feedback: (1)

Per Bax regarding the 10C:

The 10C transmitter will have 8 proportional channels and 2 switched channels.

8 channels are available in a trainer situation.

Gungadin

Ah yes. And one of the most dramatic measurable differences between my 9C and the X9303, all Kool-Aid aside is the Latency measurements. My 9C is a slug compared to the X9303, and that is not my opinion, it is a documented fact.

victorzamora

Zeeb, you said you can't compare the 9Z to the 9303 because they're two difference kinds of radios. You can't compare a $600 9303 to a $1200 9Z. You then compared the $1200 12x to the $600 10c. What happened to "it's hardly fair to compare" those two different kinds of radios?? Sorry about that...I've just got to pick on you about that!

I love picking out little contradictions. This one was just irresistible[>:].

Zeeb

My Feedback: (41)

If you love picking out little things, then you should have picked out the fact that Ryan had changed the thread topic to the 12X...

Had the 12X been available when I decided to leave Futaba, I would have bought it instead of the X9303. The 12X is head to head competition for the 12Z Futaba, not the frequently mentioned and only slightly less money 12FG or the mid range priced 10C.

Flyfalcons

I'm good at changing topics Zeeb. Though in this case, just illustrating a point on product lead times.
Love,
Ryan

victorzamora

Yeah, buying the 12FG over the 12Z doesn't make much sense to me. Just $200 more on a $1200 radio for quite a better one? I feel like the ranges have changed. It's like the 4 and 6 channels are about the same, the 7 is another level, the 10 another, the 12's another level and the 14 another. If you're going to buy on a certain level, get the nicest of that level. I mean, the difference between the 10c I want and the next step up means doubling my price. Then I'd insist on getting the 12Z, so I'm good at this level. The only reason I'm planning on getting the 10c over the 2.4GHz 7c is that I have the 72MHz 7c and would want to go up if I'm going to be buying another radio. Plus, the 7c's are a couple years old...and I'd be getting the 10c at the leading edge of its advent. I dunno, I'm weird about my money and where I put it.

Does anyone get where I'm coming from or am I just absolutely crazy?

summerwind

no you ain't crazy.................but if someday the 10C actually materializes (LMAO) , you'll have a nice radio that'll go a long ways before becoming obsolete.

victorzamora

Well, I know I'm crazy...but maybe not in that regard!!
I guess that both the 9303 and the 10c are so nice and so similar in price and performance, it's personal preference as to which flavor you'd want.

B58

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Big deal to me is that the 9303 has a mechanical throttle trim lever. Very good for emergency shut down on a turbine. Bob

DougV

With a Futaba Radio, you can assign that to any switch, including the spring loaded (Training) switch.

Doug.