Radio control range
10-18-2009, 12:44 PM
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Radio control range
I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
10-18-2009, 04:00 PM
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RE: Radio control range
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[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
I doubt that that even comes close to being a legal RC aircraft.
Line of sight, unaided is it without special permits and licenses.
However, your post may draw some interest from the Feds.
9/11 is not very far from our memories.
10-18-2009, 05:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: jocket
[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
If you're asking on this website, you need to rethink building that "experimental aircraft".
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10-18-2009, 09:53 PM
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RE: Radio control range
We always see these types of pipe dreams from guys that haven't even done the research to know they don't exist and/or are illegal. If it's not line of sight then it's not RC, it's UAV and good luck getting the licenses required from the FAA. It's also illegal to tamper with your RC radio to boost the signal.
Read up on it on the AMA.
http://www.modelaircraft.org/
Read up on it on the AMA.
http://www.modelaircraft.org/
10-19-2009, 06:46 AM
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RE: Radio control range
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_91...tm.htm#9182951
Check out this thread[:-]
Check out this thread[:-]
10-19-2009, 10:06 AM
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RE: Radio control range
Oh boy
I can understand the interest in FPV and UAV stuff, but as a long time modeler and AMA member who does not want to lose our right to fly traditional RC. I get very nervous when I see posts like that.
Pete
I can understand the interest in FPV and UAV stuff, but as a long time modeler and AMA member who does not want to lose our right to fly traditional RC. I get very nervous when I see posts like that.
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10-19-2009, 12:59 PM
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RE: Radio control range
Sorry. I am building an experimental system, but I don't want to ruin things for everyone else.
10-19-2009, 01:06 PM
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RE: Radio control range
I did the research and was told by 2 radio manufacturers that if anyone could help me it would be here. I am aware that its illeagal to tamper with RC radio equipement. I also know that some industries use radio control with much greater range. I'm just asking, didn't mean to upset you.
10-19-2009, 01:20 PM
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RE: Radio control range
You could get an old satellite dish reflector and make a parabolic antenna for a 2.4GHZ system. That could theoretically give you the range of 20 miles. It would probably not be practical as you would have a real problem of keeping the A/C in the beam. It would not be illegal. You would not be messing with the RF equipment. Just enhancing it.
Did you know the horizon is 16 miles away? You would need to be at a good altitude with the A/C.
Did you know the horizon is 16 miles away? You would need to be at a good altitude with the A/C.
10-19-2009, 01:23 PM
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RE: Radio control range
I've sent my patent to the DOD and NASA. They aren't interested until I build a working model. Without radio control I'll have to computerize the whole flight system. I didn't want to stir up so much conflict. I was hoping some one had looked into commercial RC and knew the names of companies who used them.
10-19-2009, 01:35 PM
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RE: Radio control range
The Boeing Co makes and sells RPV's. They can put you in touch with suppliers of long range equipment.
There is a poster on the gas engine forum that call himself "tired old man". He works in the industry. PM him and he will be able to give you some information on the radios they use.
There is a poster on the gas engine forum that call himself "tired old man". He works in the industry. PM him and he will be able to give you some information on the radios they use.
10-19-2009, 01:37 PM
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RE: Radio control range
That's a good idea. Maybe if you saw what I was working on then I'd get some ideas I haven't thought of. I'll try to post some in the next week or so. Have to get them developed, don't have a digital camera yet.
10-19-2009, 01:43 PM
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patents are not normally issued until the idea has been "reduced to practice". So I would say you may have an idea for a patent but unless the patent system has changed recently you don't have a patent.
In case you are wondering I am not an attorney but I worked for a corporation and for 5 years I was the contact person between their patent attorneys and the engineers who submitted ideas to be patented. Of course I had other engineering duties in addition to this.
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In case you are wondering I am not an attorney but I worked for a corporation and for 5 years I was the contact person between their patent attorneys and the engineers who submitted ideas to be patented. Of course I had other engineering duties in addition to this.
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RE: Radio control range
The industrial division of Futaba makes RC stuff that is beyond the level we get to use as unlicensed hobbyists. I do not know the range it has since it is nothing I'd ever be interested in getting. I have no idea what the requirements are to be able to buy it and use it legally.
10-19-2009, 01:46 PM
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RE: Radio control range
dirtybird,
I'm not worried about the horizon because my vehicle is going up, way up.
The satellite dish is a good idea.
Thanks
I'm not worried about the horizon because my vehicle is going up, way up.
The satellite dish is a good idea.
Thanks
10-19-2009, 01:55 PM
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Just understand that we are fairly protective of the hobby and worry about people greying the line between hobby and commerical. In short, we really don't want the FAA or Homeland Security giving us unwanted attention. The reason they leave us alone is because we do an excellent job of policing ourselves.
So when questions come up that require breaking rules, or using our equipment outside normal hobby channels, people get a bit defensive. Please dont take it personally.
So when questions come up that require breaking rules, or using our equipment outside normal hobby channels, people get a bit defensive. Please dont take it personally.
10-20-2009, 06:26 AM
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RE: Radio control range
Contact Lockheed Martin at the Sandista National Labratory in Los Alomos, NM. They will tell you what regulatory authorities you have to deal with, and then you'll find out what equipment is legal, and what clearances you'll need with the FAA and other authorities.
10-20-2009, 08:16 AM
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RE: Radio control range
ORIGINAL: jocket
[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
[font=''Arial''][/font] I am looking for Tx/Rx equipement that has a range of more than 20 miles. It's for an experimental aircraft I am building.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_91...tm.htm#9185664
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I was told in another forum that I could reach 'tired old man' in this forum. If you know him pass the word, thanks.
tired old man,
I was told you might be able to help me. I'm looking for commercial long range radio control equipement like what would be used in RPVs. I need to control my hybrid plane to very high altitudes so any help is appreciated.
tired old man,
I was told you might be able to help me. I'm looking for commercial long range radio control equipement like what would be used in RPVs. I need to control my hybrid plane to very high altitudes so any help is appreciated.
I'm sorry but what you request cannot be answered by me. Any answers would violate several very important federal laws, likely sending me to prison for a lengthy stay while wiping out the fruit of my life's work. You're 100% on your own, in more ways than you can imagine, should you continue to persue your present course.
On a more personal note, I'm one that does not believe modelers have the right to participate in long range remote piloting. That's an area I believe reserved for more professional undertakings that are closely monitored in specific types of airspace. In short, modelers are not even remotely qualified to handle most, if not all, of the numerous safety issues. Nor can they handle the liability.
My fire boots and flame suit are on so I'm prepared for the blasts I'm sure to receive, but I won't budge from that position.
On a more personal note, I'm one that does not believe modelers have the right to participate in long range remote piloting. That's an area I believe reserved for more professional undertakings that are closely monitored in specific types of airspace. In short, modelers are not even remotely qualified to handle most, if not all, of the numerous safety issues. Nor can they handle the liability.
My fire boots and flame suit are on so I'm prepared for the blasts I'm sure to receive, but I won't budge from that position.
Dave Olson