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forrest225 10-16-2008 05:37 PM

Seen This yet.
 


Its on the traxxas home page(traxxas.com) Its called the summit. watching the promo now :)

EDIT: looks interesting. Has independent suspension with 2 speeds 1st has a 70:1 Ratio And 2nd has a 25:1 ration for normal driving. The best part:
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Diffs Lock and unlock via switch on the TX.

Anomie 10-16-2008 05:48 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Yes it is pretty cool so far. There is a thread in the MT forum with some more information.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8053988/tm.htm

forrest225 10-16-2008 05:51 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
what do you think about the suspension?

Anomie 10-16-2008 07:16 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
I personally prefer solid axles, but it still appears promising. Seems as if it would make a great cruiser for those home-built courses or some general exploring around.

dezfan 10-16-2008 07:38 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Not a crawler.

dacaur 10-16-2008 08:41 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
looks SOOOOO awsome.... not a competition crawler, but I would go sa far as to say it will perform at least as well as a RTR scorpion.... the remote locking diffs and remote shifted two speed.... Oh man, I was saving for an e-revo... but this just hit the top of my list!!!

forrest225 10-16-2008 09:13 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
I think its cool, and could lead to some amazing types of racing (starts out normal but ends with a high tension crawl to the finish). And its good for people that want to crawl some but dont need a dedicated truck for it. I am not planning on getting though, because it is believed traxxas will announce a Mini E-REVO and Mini slayer soon.

The Real Dogman 10-16-2008 10:20 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Crawler???:eek:

773W 10-18-2008 01:04 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
I like this one. Being able to go from fast to slow, lock -unlock diffs at the flip of a switch, looks like this could be alot of FUN !!!!! You all remember what that is dont ya??????

CustomTamiyas4Life 10-18-2008 02:42 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: dezfan

Not a crawler.
The exact words I was going to post.

773W 10-18-2008 02:47 PM

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After watching the vid, I seem to think it can crawl. I cant go over logs and go up stairs with any of my other MTs.......

rcktpwrd 10-18-2008 03:26 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
looks pretty cool, looks like it will make for a great basher/part time crawler, a bit pricey however...
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXWEN9**&P=7

forrest225 10-19-2008 12:04 AM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
I heard tower always lowers the price on stuff like this when they get it in stock. I hope they do because i wanna see reviews and videos of it.

The Mad Modder 10-19-2008 03:58 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 

ORIGINAL: forrest225

I heard tower always lowers the price on stuff like this when they get it in stock. I hope they do because i wanna see reviews and videos of it.
You never know with tower. The Tamiya Unimog is selling for $445 at tower. The Cr01's going price is a little over $300. You can't tell me a different body makes $145 difference.

The Mad Modder 10-19-2008 04:01 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: dezfan

Not a crawler.
I have to agree, it's a neat all terrain truck, but independant suspension trucks will never be able to compete with rigid axle ones.

u) 10-19-2008 05:21 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
A bit pricey? $750, thats nuts! Its just a glorified e revo with locking diffs

hands without shadows 10-19-2008 06:09 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Best description Ive heard yet: "Jack of all trades, master of none."

dacaur 10-19-2008 06:45 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: The Mad Modder



ORIGINAL: dezfan

Not a crawler.
I have to agree, it's a neat all terrain truck, but independent suspension trucks will never be able to compete with rigid axle ones.
I have to wonder....

The #1 reason that in the 1:1 world a solid axle crawler is so much better than independent suspension, is that independent suspension truck have so little articulation. A well set up solid axle jeep can easily have 40+ inches of axle articulation (meaning, if you have a rock 40 inches tall, you could drive over it with just one wheel, and the wheel on the other side would stay on the ground) Most stock independent suspension setups will give less than a foot of articulation, with the vast majority having around 5-8" and adding a suspension lift doesn't automatically increase articulation like it does in a solid axle truck. The Problem? Short suspension arms.... the arms have to be short, so that the engine oil pan can hang down as far as possible, for a lower CG, plus shorter arms are easier to make strong than longer ones.... One vehicle that doesn't have this issue as much is a hummer H1, with 18 inches of wheel travel, it far surpasses any other stock independent truck, and can actualy crawl, though definitely not as well as a solid axle truck.
Here are some vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l0sMg8MH4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjmRS...eature=related

Its also worth noting that there have been several independent suspension rock crawlers.... The problem is you have to basically start from the ground up, since you cant just modify an existing design... and they still suffer from problem #2

In any case, the Revo design definitely doesn't have this shortfall, so its not a problem.

Problem #2, and a very close follower to #1, is strength... independent suspension has some notoriously weak points... CV axle joints and steering components are the worst offenders.... They can be beefed up, but at great cost..

Again, the revo platform doesn't have this problem...

SOOOOOOOOO.....

I'm predicting this truck will kick some SERIOUS butt on the rocks..... And I would bet a lot of money it will win SOME competitions....




dacaur 10-19-2008 06:46 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: ThAt GuY120

A bit pricey? $750, thats nuts! Its just a glorified e revo with locking diffs
street price will be around $500. considering the e-revo is $450 without the locking diffs, single speed, and a 2 channel radio, thats prettty good.

u) 10-20-2008 10:13 AM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
yeah i was thinking it should be somewhere around $500 but its on tower hobbies for $742

savagecommander 10-20-2008 11:24 AM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: dezfan

Not a crawler.
well actually, i dont think it says rock crawler on the box dez, cool your jets.

THE BASHER 10-20-2008 01:07 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
i want those remote locking diffs [>:]

u) 10-20-2008 08:42 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Yeah too bad they dont make solid axles with remote locking diffs, that would be awesome!!!! you could have front or rear dig, or front locked and the rear freewheel and vice versa, or all locked! from what i gathered off of one of the videos of the traxxas guy being interviewed on you tube, it does all those things.

EDIT: I bet its not long before we see those type of axles on the market. i would guess you could easily get $100 to $150 or more per axle.

drevil 10-20-2008 10:30 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 


ORIGINAL: ThAt GuY120

yeah i was thinking it should be somewhere around $500 but its on tower hobbies for $742
That is normal for Tower. They usually have the list price posted until they get them in stock at which point they'll lower it. Somebody from the Traxxas forums said that Traxxas told them it would be around $500 when released.



ORIGINAL: ThAt GuY120
Yeah too bad they dont make solid axles with remote locking diffs, that would be awesome!!!! you could have front or rear dig, or front locked and the rear freewheel and vice versa, or all locked! from what i gathered off of one of the videos of the traxxas guy being interviewed on you tube, it does all those things.
From the video I've seen you can have all diffs locked, all diffs open, or just the front diff locked. I don't believe it can be set to dig front or rear.

u) 10-20-2008 10:36 PM

RE: Seen This yet.
 
Hmmmmm I Swear he said something about dig.....I'll have to watch it again later.


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