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Old 07-03-2003, 07:50 PM
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The line going from the top of the mast to the bow isn't really needed. All that's needed is the forestay going down the front of the jib and attached to the jib boom. Then you have the swivel line located about 25 to 33 percent back on the jibboom that attaches to the deck and then if you so desire a topping lift from the rear of the jibboom up to the attachment point for the jib. We have a lot of Victorias in our club (including the current National Champ) and none of these boats use that type of forestay for the mast. These have a bad tendency to get hung up when other boats are close.

I know thats how it's done on a fullsize manned boat but our models don't always respond to the same ideas.

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Originally posted by S Devitt
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The line going from the top of the mast to the bow isn't really needed. All that's needed is the forestay going down the front of the jib and attached to the jib boom. Then you have the swivel line located about 25 to 33 percent back on the jibboom that attaches to the deck and then if you so desire a topping lift from the rear of the jibboom up to the attachment point for the jib. We have a lot of Victorias in our club (including the current National Champ) and none of these boats use that type of forestay for the mast. These have a bad tendency to get hung up when other boats are close.

I know thats how it's done on a fullsize manned boat but our models don't always respond to the same ideas.

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That is EXACTLY how mine is set up. I used race with my old club here in TX and racing mods were manditory. I quit when everybody got so much money involved with this. I'm 13 and you know the rest of the story
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i get your blue line thing now.. i have the same kinda thing on the winch arm, the line is fixed to the hull, through the winch arm, then to the sail, this is basicly the same thing with the jib boom being the winch.
ok, i got some pics of my own after swearing at the boom to stay up despite being in two bits as i tension it LOL
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OK, I guess I misunderstood your picture.

Isn't it amazing how a supposed one design boat (Victoria) can end up with so many modifications. These are the most popular boats in our club right now. I particularly don't like them, though I've raced one of the club members boats and had alot of success with it. I guess I'll have to go ahead and build one, one of these days.

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heres the boom, all the holes for.. erm.. sail width tension i guess. the winch line is just hanging over to show. the winch arm is also visable
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Old 07-03-2003, 08:07 PM
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Yeah, the only mods i can really do are ones that involve new sails and what ever can be done with Spider Wire, wood, a dull hobby knife, some eye hooks, and very limited money.

Hey, were all on line!
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heres the jib, again the winch line is just hanging, if i get your last pic right i thread though a eye here, and attach to the bow. with the winch and jib having this kinda system, i wonder if i will still have enough throw. sommit to find out
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heres the front of the jib.
note the eye just below it, i guess the jib was attached to the deck here.
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Those hole do look like they are used for adjusting the curve on the foot of the sail. You don't want the foot dragging on the mainsail boom,you want it to be able to flop from side to side so what you'll need to do is to make the loop that is holding the clew of the sail down to the boom just a little longer.

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heres bluey on it's side ( just to make the pic bigger )
cant really see the lines, but you get the jist of the look. broken mast look at the mo
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Old 07-03-2003, 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by phillybaby
heres the front of the jib.
note the eye just below it, i guess the jib was attached to the deck here.
Thats Perfect. Remember that the far forward for stay is not needed.

just bring a line down from the boom to that eyelet to a cleet off to the side.
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Those hole do look like they are used for adjusting the curve on the foot of the sail. You don't want the foot dragging on the boom,you want it to be able to flop from side to side so what you'll need to do is to make the loop that is holding the clew of the sail down to the boom just a little longer.
Feet, Clew's oh how i miss the good ole world of dehedrial and washout and idle mixture confusion for beginners
i see what your saying tho, new arrangement will inculde longer links to keep the sail away.

have to say, whats here is bloody ugly at the mo. the sails are gonna get bleached clean. a few of the hooks could do with replacing. and the hull will be sanded and repainted a new blue my girlfriend is gonna pick for me still blue
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Gee, I was just about say "and give that boat a scrub while yer at it!"

After the new paint is added, give it a good coat of polishing wax.

Feet= the lower tips of the sails
Clew= who said clew? bottom of sail (in general)
Cleet= a place to tie stuff to
outhall= well get to that later
reef= that too
main hailyerd= just kidding!
vang= back to the wonderful world of begginers yet?
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landofnod=bedtime
night guys, thanks for the help. will be back with new bits to play with after the weekend. might have more thoughts before i go tomorrow tho.
oh yes, found spider wire today.... 12 pounds! and 137 meters per reel. i'll never need that much and not at that price. i'll stick with the stuff i can borrow out the garage
there was a "cheap" version at 6.99, but that was standard mono filimant or sommit
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BED TIME???? oh, its tomorow already, gota go!
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Quick lesson, all sails have basically the same name applied at the same spot. Uppermost attachment point is the head, lower forwardmost point is the tack, rearward most attachment point is the clew. Front of the sail whether it attaches to mast or forestay is the luff, rear of the sail is the leech, and the bottom is the foot. If you know and understand these points you'll be able to talk to other more experienced silors and be understood rather than call it a whatever. It makes it much easier to communicate because then everyone else knows when you say you're having a problem with the clew of the mainsail. See. The list goes on and on but these are some of the essential basics.

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don't leeches stick to a foot when you walk though a swamp?
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Hows the boat comming now?
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the sails are off, washed them, but they still aint white. will ask mum where the bleach is when she gets home.
the mast is now really in two bits. will take to the show this weekend to get a replacement.
other than that im gonna spend the next few hours getting ready to go before i leave at 4. and when i get back sunday night, im gonna have a new plane to build tho Bluey should get some attention too.
till then its up to the old man to find the keel.
saw some suitable weights when i was in the fishing shop tho. so im ok if he cant find it.
see ya sunday night guys
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How can you not know where the bleach is?, dont you ever do your chores???

I mean, your in high school or collage right? You mom should have taught you how to use bleach. Right?



What kind of plane is it? A fun one? Your lucky, I'm only alowed 1 model at a time.

Sorry, I'll have to be gone for a week starting today (Sunday)

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Chores, hell no i clean my room when i need to, and sometimes wash dirty trainers
but im not at school, i know how to use bleach, but if you saw our house, i'd be forgiven for not knowing where it is, looked in the obvisious places, aint there... if we have any at all.

you saw the plane, its a 50 size mini IMAC type thing that will have a funfly wing designed soon, the site is www.flycapiche.co.uk
i also got a hand launch glider and gear for a electric glider i have. i've got ummmm.... 7+flyable, more needing fixing.
all on my site under My Squadron
www.philsrcworld.fsnet.co.uk

pics of a yacht at the show to come as soon as i've gone through the 200ish pics i've taken
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How do you take 200 photos of a 20 inch boat? GeeWissss...
I mean, my camera can hold 1,107 pics but still....
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noooooooooo, 200 images of planes, just 3 of the yacht lol
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