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Old 11-07-2013, 07:30 PM
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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check this out , might be closer to scale at 1/5 than than the 1/6 dragon one. http://www.scalercparts.com/
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That is pretty cool. I will have to compare the sizes. I hope that company makes some more stuff. I really want a MK 108 or 103 cannon in 1/5th scale. Also, some good ammo belts would really be nice to have access to.
The Dragon MG 17 is very detailed and looks really good. If there are any problems with it, it might be the size. It is probably close enough though, that few would notice a difference.
Old 11-12-2013, 04:54 PM
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All of my glass, canopy and spinner showed up yesterday. Everything looks great. I have seen on another thread that Ziroli will sell just the cone of the spinner for $15. That would be great to have for a dummy prop spinner for static. Other than the Landing gear, I have most everything now.
Old 11-12-2013, 05:15 PM
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have you gotten any books or 3 views yet?
Old 11-12-2013, 05:32 PM
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I have acquired a few books, but nothing that is good for documentation. Good 3 views and color plates are what I need. I am really hesitant to drop a bunch of money on some of them, not knowing what they contain. I have enough of the history lessons and actual photos. Now I need the things to fabricate a competition portfolio. I have yet to see a 3-view with the straight ailerons, and I have yet to see a full scale photo that shows a Stuka WITH tapered ailerons. I am sure someone will chime in with a recommendation. Otherwise I am sure someone over on RCS will direct me properly. I have done a ton of internet searching, and nothing has come up yet.
Old 11-12-2013, 07:19 PM
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The Alex Vanags-Baginskis book has really nice 6 view drawn in 1/64 scale and lt has the correct ailerons( straight) . ISBN 0-517-54853-4 titled STUKA Ju87
The Eddie J. Creek Book the same but drawn in 1/72 scale. ISBN 978-1-90653-728-9 Titled JUNKERS Ju87 , From Dive-Bomber to Tank-Buster 1935-1945 . This book is the most recently published, in 2012, and has a lot of photos and drawings. I would think these two would be adequate for your needs.
Old 11-13-2013, 05:11 AM
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you might try your local public library and ask them to do a search and see if they can borrow the suggested books from another library.
Old 11-13-2013, 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the info. The Alex Vanags book is reasonable. I will just order one of them. Gonna have to shop a little for the other one. It seems a bit spendy. The library option may be the way to go with it, and then I can make copies of it when I am there, of the pages I want. If they will let me.
Old 11-13-2013, 09:22 AM
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Aero Detail publishes a great series of highly detailed books including one for the Stuka. The Stuka book contains dozens on photos, including close ups of details, detailed line drawings of details and three views as well as several color schemes in the center. A little pricey, but can sometimes be found used on ebay and Amazon.

http://www.hlj.com/product/MDGAD11/Air

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aero-Detail-...item3a83fec2db
Old 11-13-2013, 09:45 AM
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The Aero Detail book is a good resource, but be aware that it's not for the B version.
Old 11-13-2013, 11:25 AM
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Maybe my best bet would be to find a plastic model kit? What I am in need of mostly are color schemes. Seems like there should be a ton of stuff out there for this plane. Info on the D/G variant is really of no help. Thanks, though, that looks like a good book.
Old 11-13-2013, 11:41 AM
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Years ago, Joe Huntley had Stuka color schemes on his website. I don't have a link, but maybe you could contact him by PM. He goes bt Prof. Looney.

I found my color scheme on a plastic model site. You may want to locate one, and take a look.
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Here are a few schemes that you may have already located.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:32 PM
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I wouldn't discount the Aero detail #11, the main differences between the B and the D are in the front cowl, the canopy, the wheel pants, and the stab support . Almost all of the rest of the aircraft is the same as the B. The Kagero series of Stuka books have quite a few color side profiles but I think many of the 3 views show the tapered ailerons. I'll have to look and make sure but that's what I seem to recall.
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When setting out to create a scale documentation binder, I have to have color plates and 3 views that match the model I am creating. Since I am doing a B model, I specifically need certain things. I currently have several books, but nothing I can use to create my booklet. So, If I were never able to find documentation with a straight chord aileron, I would have to build a tapered aileron to match my docs, even though that is not truly scale! I would rather not have to do this.
Old 11-13-2013, 06:44 PM
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I was wrong about the Kagero series on the stuka. The drawings do show a constant chord aileron. I must have been thinking of another book I have on the D/G variants(also published by Kagero) The vol. 1thru 4 have some pretty decent 3 views. and color side profiles about 26 in all,but the majority are mostly the green splinter pattern. another book by Herbert Leonard & Andre Jouineau , PLANES and PILOTS Junkers Ju87, ISBN 2-913903-53-3 has about 50 side color profiles and perhaps the most varied schemes. the OSPREY COMBAT AIRCRAFT #6,#1, & #74 Have some, the most being in #6 "stukageschwader of north Africa and the Mediterranean" by JOHN WEAL ISBN 1 85532 722 8 Has about 30 or 32 . Hope this helps.
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Cool, thanks Tunakuts. I will chase those down.

I am really looking for the factory 3 color scheme. Possibly a Stug. 3 from Norway. I really do not want any other colors (yellow mainly) in the scheme. I know there are a bunch of crazy schemes, but I am looking for something early and basic I think.
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standard 70 , 71 , 65 splinter pattern. Found a color profile of a Ju87R-2 of 3./St.G1, Stavanger, Norway, April 1940. in Planes and Pilots and in Osprey Combat Aircraft #1
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heck Grimmace, 4 pages already and you havent even glued 2 sticks together......what are you, a politician? lol
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Originally Posted by vertical grimmace View Post
Oh the siren! The thing about the siren is I have never heard one that sounded good to me. There has to be an RPM increase because of the dive for it to sound right to me. I have seen video of a Stuka flying around turning it on and off, and it just did not have the right impression. I think mainly, the pitch is too high. It should be a lower town. I am going to focus on getting the bomb drops to work good, when I get there. Then I may work on coming up with a more scale siren.
HPA +1
I mainly fly WWI but my favorite (only) WW2 is the Stuka. I had the JC Whitney electric siren...either on or off.... it had no low end growl and high speed "WHINE!". I have a very good friend of mine make me a couple of dive sirens from cnc billet aluminum with ceramic bearings and a APC 4 1/2 by 4 1/2 prop (needed for the low end growl).
You ask anyone who has heard this stuka dive...... It woks the same as the ole I4C sirens BUT much louder. Let me know when you get close to that stage and I will hook you up... will try to post pics shortly

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Old 11-14-2013, 08:05 AM
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Bob Banka Aircraft Documentation lists several packets and a 3 view of the B.

http://www.bobsairdoc.com/3-view.htm
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Thanks a lot guys! Now we are getting somewhere. A good siren would be a treasure, and I will be very interested in that.

I have actually put my machine gun together Rambro!
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bear in mind that none of the sirens that I've seen are anything close to scale in appearance .
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Originally Posted by tunakuts3d View Post
bear in mind that none of the sirens that I've seen are anything close to scale in appearance .
I think that making it removable would not be a problem. Take it off for static, put it on for flying.

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