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Old 03-30-2014, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Horsepoweraviation
Art here is some visual stimulation for you!
I can not wait to see your 5' 8" frame hold one of these on start up! OR better yet....CRAM this plane
into a mini van!!
LOL!
HPA
This is not me. The man in the cowboy hat is Keith Zimmerly and he built and flies the half scale Nieuport 11 pictured here. I didn't get the name of the other gentleman.
Old 03-30-2014, 04:18 PM
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Thanks, Art. I used 1/8 aircraft ply on my WW I aircraft, they have not failed yet, but I did buy some G-10 1/8" and find it very hard to cut. Maybe I will order some 1/16" G 10 and sandwich it with 1/16" ac -ply, that should give me a better comfort zone.

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Where do you guys get G-10? It's got my interest.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Where do you guys get G-10? It's got my interest.
I get mine from McMaster-Carr.
Old 03-31-2014, 12:35 PM
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Shoulda known. They gots it all there. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by jwrich
Thanks, Art. I used 1/8 aircraft ply on my WW I aircraft, they have not failed yet, but I did buy some G-10 1/8" and find it very hard to cut. Maybe I will order some 1/16" G 10 and sandwich it with 1/16" ac -ply, that should give me a better comfort zone.

Rich
Rich, for what it's worth - I have been using 1/8"aircraft plywood for control horns on some of my 1/3 scale planes. My last Pup and N-11 both had 1/8" a/c ply. I flew the pup a year and a half before I sold it and the N-11 3 full years before I crashed it........the control horns worked fine.

You know how I fly.....pretty aggressively. Sometimes we overthink some of our builds......."you pays your money and takes your chances!"
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I received my leading edge material today. I ordered 3/8" by 6' wood dowels from Atlas Dowel Co, Harrison, Oh. Pretty good looking dowel rod for being 6 feet long! It just might be time to throw some wing parts on the table and stir in a little glue......



Work progresses on the rudder. I have drilled and cut and trimmed and I think I am satisfied with the fit of the rudder post.
Next step is to fabricate the hinges and hinge bearings - then I can glue up the rest of the rudder structure.

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Old 04-02-2014, 04:48 PM
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I'm anxious to see what you do for hinges. You don't want to use a whole sheet of CA hinge for each hinge point? LOL. It's really enjoyable to watch something of this size come together. And, I'm glad I stumbled across this thread right from the beginning, not at the end stages. I'm enjoying your work. Thanks.
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BTW, what material do you use for your laminations? IE; rudder, vertical stab....
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Thanks Steve. The tail feathers are 1/16" balsa and 1/32" a/c ply.......I don't recall how many of each. That info is somewhere at the beginning of the thread, maybe page 2 or thereabouts.

The hinges will be made from brass tubes. It will be easier to show you later this week, than to try to explain it now.........basically, a tube will be bonded to the carbon fiber rudder post and then a second tube slipped over the first.......a strap is soldered to the outer tube, this strap attaches the rudder the fuselage. Like I mentioned, pictures as I go will better explain the process.
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
Now, on to the rudder.

There is a rough sketch in this picture which depicts the hinges.
Old 04-03-2014, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
Thanks Steve. The tail feathers are 1/16" balsa and 1/32" a/c ply.......I don't recall how many of each. That info is somewhere at the beginning of the thread, maybe page 2 or thereabouts.

The hinges will be made from brass tubes. It will be easier to show you later this week, than to try to explain it now.........basically, a tube will be bonded to the carbon fiber rudder post and then a second tube slipped over the first.......a strap is soldered to the outer tube, this strap attaches the rudder the fuselage. Like I mentioned, pictures as I go will better explain the process.
I can see how the hinges will be fabricated in my head.....or course I see a bunch of things in my head when I skip my medications! I have a P12 Just getting started and the elevator has the out board hinge in a location not suitable for "off the shelf" type hinges and I think this would be the fix....maybe? Will be looking forward to seeing exactly how this will work out.
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Sounds like you are happy with the dowels....looks like that "shipping piece of wood" can yield you some more building material ! LOL!
Write down you current list and anything else you think of ....call ya Saturday evening...Want to double check your order and pick up anything last minute on Sunday.
Turn up the pace Turtle man!

HPA
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sounds like a challenge to me. you gonna take that art?
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HPA ART



Steve,
This is Art taking it EVERYDAY....... from me

If not.... you would just see Art on the sidelines....... making airplane noises while waving around a "airplane on a stick"
(you know.. like the ones the flip floppers use)



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Old 04-03-2014, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
sounds like a challenge to me. you gonna take that art?
Yep, I got to.........
Old 04-03-2014, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Horsepoweraviation
HPA ART



Steve,
This is Art taking it EVERYDAY....... from me

If not.... you would just see Art on the sidelines....... making airplane noises while waving around a "airplane on a stick"
(you know.. like the ones the flip floppers use)



HPA

.....or this happens!
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too funny.
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Originally Posted by R/C Art
This is not me. The man in the cowboy hat is Keith Zimmerly and he built and flies the half scale Nieuport 11 pictured here. I didn't get the name of the other gentleman.
Many of Keith's large scale airplanes can be viewed on our club site. www.mcrcs.com
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Keith's N-28 was great and won at MAD 2013 for Pilots choice, If I recall, and $500 gift certificate.
wow, the Gotha Bomber is sweeeeeet.

R/C Art , aka "turtle builder" Flew his nice looking Eindecker. Pick up the pace young man!

Link for photos, (scroll down). https://www.flickr.com/photos/88197199@N05/
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"I think you're (we) are all a little tail heavy." Wallace Berry, Hell Divers MGM 1929
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Originally Posted by jack steward350
"I think you're (we) are all a little tail heavy." Wallace Berry, Hell Divers MGM 1929
Ain't that the truth!
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Turtle Report:

Finally I have something positive to report - I have overcome a multitude of obstacles (and I'm not going to tell you what they were or how much brass was wasted) and have the rudder hinges soldered and ready to fit to the structure.


Have you ever had a day at the flying field that resulted in breaking just about every plane in you hangar? Well that was the kind of week or so that I had on cutting, bending and soldering the brass rudder hinges..........oops, I forgot - I said I wasn't going to tell you oh well!

Any whoooo, here is the almost finished product - the straps have to be fit to the fuse, cut to length and drilled for the bolts.



The next step is to fit a spacer onto the rudder post between the two hinges..........the spacer is a brass tube the same size as the hinge bearing and will keep the rudder from moving up or down relative to the fuselage.
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I have decided on the landing gear design and will use GTM's half scale Fokker struts for the legs. I will also use the same strut for the cabane struts.
And for the stab braces I will use the GTM quarter scale Hanriot strut material.

With those decisions out of the way, the rest of the way through the build should be smooth sailing ---------- hysterical laughter ensues ---------- even I don't believe that one hahahahahhhaaa!

Later
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ROFLMAO, slapping my sides and giggling uncontrolably
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