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Old 03-06-2017, 08:31 AM
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For all of you with the Top Flite flavor Bonanza kit I received a little white box from St. Charles IL. marked 630BNZ and I thought you might wish to see the contents.

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It's not a real Bonanza unless it's a v-tail. Beautiful work! I fly a 1962 P35 and love it. Nice to see RC interest in the Bonanza line.

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Old 03-12-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Birddog-RCU
It's not a real Bonanza unless it's a v-tail. Beautiful work! I fly a 1962 P35 and love it. Nice to see RC interest in the Bonanza line.

Actually, the conventional tail version far out sold and was built in much greater numbers than the "V" tail. The conventional tail flew better than the "V" tail and was preferred by the pilots by a good majority. The purpose of the "V" tail was to save weight and was thought to be slightly less expensive to produce. It was eventually decided there was no real advantage to it and the "V" tail was dropped.
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Your P35 looks sharp! Tip tanks are great not only for extending range, but for adding to your allowable gross weight! Do you have a center stack radio panel?

I had a K35. I used to tell passengers it was Buddy Holly's favorite plane.......NOT! The tip tanks gave us 8 hours fuel..... more than my bladder could handle.
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Originally Posted by ma_mulcahy
Your P35 looks sharp! Tip tanks are great not only for extending range, but for adding to your allowable gross weight! Do you have a center stack radio panel?

I had a K35. I used to tell passengers it was Buddy Holly's favorite plane.......NOT! The tip tanks gave us 8 hours fuel..... more than my bladder could handle.

That is why the pilot relief tube was invented! ;-)
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Gibb, have you designed or planning to incorporate detachable wings? Nice job so far, and updates?
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I guess that's why so many v-tail owners love them... because the conventional tail is that much better. I always get a good laugh hearing from the conventional tail crowd. V-tail owners don't have to prove anything, we just enjoy flying a great airplane.
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A V-tail on a classic plane such as this gives it an exotic look, and with the option to choose it makes everyone the winners - and that is pretty cool I think.
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Speaking of tail...this is the best looking, best flying in general aviation. Now back to the original poster,....what's the latest on the Bonanza build?? The
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Originally Posted by ibuild
A V-tail on a classic plane such as this gives it an exotic look, and with the option to choose it makes everyone the winners - and that is pretty cool I think.
The V-til is a classic look but in full sacale aircraft the conventional tail proved to be more popular and a better flying airplane.
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
The V-til is a classic look but in full sacale aircraft the conventional tail proved to be more popular and a better flying airplane.

Alright, I have no knowledge about these aircrafts and their history, so I'm not going to argue with that. But what I do know is that if you ask a F3J competition pilot he will say that an X-tail just fly better than a V-tail, and if you ask an F3F competition pilot he is likely to say it the other way around. The difference in behavior is a lot about what you are used to, how you fly the plane, and last but not least - what your values and motivations are.

I have seen a lot of peculiar scale planes being built and flown - like a wright flier or something like that, not likely particular good airplanes compared to todays standard, but still people love to build and fly them. I don't think it ever crosses their minds that these planes are less enjoyable to fly than anything else, and I don't think they are to those people.

Finally, what you get from a model airplane might not be comparable to what you get from the real thing at all, so in a scale model airplane that might be 5 times smaller than it's role model it might not fly well at all even though the real aircraft did. In this context I like to say this; if mr. Messersmith designed the Me109 to have a span at 1,6m - he would have designed it differently.

So we are back to the motivation, yes?
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Originally Posted by ibuild
Alright, I have no knowledge about these aircrafts and their history, so I'm not going to argue with that.
FYI the Beechcraft 35 V tail was nicknamed "the doctor killer", from 1947 to 2009 were 227 V-tail to 1 conventional tail. The V-tail design never really delivered on the control advantage they were suppose to have on any aircraft using the design. Going back to the Beechcraft I believe part of the problem was not the aircraft but the pilots who were flying them. A VFR pilot controling a Beechcraft 35 flying in dense clouds was considered an "autokill" you needed to hand fly this airplane under IFR. Pilots whocould only fly under FVR because they didn't have the equipment or the know-how were a goner.
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Well, After putting the project off for several months, I am back at it...a little. I've primed and sanded the entire plane. Now need to add some scale details(panels, screws rivets). Unfortunately, I didn't prepare well enough and should have routed the corrugated surfaces. ahead of time. Oh well.
Also, I have toiled over the power plant decision on this plane. Largely due to the packaging in a relatively small cowl with the nose gear up front. But, I am also concerned for the lack of cooling path.
HOWEVER, i am considering the Eflite Power 360 electric setup. Should fit very well and with some baffling, and an exit cooling strategy, it shouldn't be too difficult.

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Also, Here is the gear I am using. Custom Robart
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:24 AM
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It's good to see you back, nice gear! Why aren't you out flying like everyone else in Michigan?
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Hello,

I was just wondering how you have found the build. I'm following a gent building one and he has had a lot of issues with fit and finish.

Also was there a specific need to go to custom retracts. Was it a case of nothing off the shelf that would work.

It's looking good by the way.

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Gibb, my customer is the one updating the other Hostetler Bonnie build here on RCU, I'm doing the build for him. I also want to know what issues (if any) you had along the way. I have had nothing but problems so far with this build. Parts don't fit, laser cutting is up to maggots, virtually had to rebuild the retracts, plans are not accurate etc. etc. etc.
I actually thought this build of yours was canned...I remember searching for a build for this bird before I started the one I'm busy with and only finding one, this one, but that was dated back in 2012??? When did you start yours or did you take it over from someone else???
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Hello fellas.

​​​​​I am a working stiff that still has children full of activities. So..time and money are at a premium. Thus, the extended delays and lack of progress.

Having built two other hostetler planes, I knew this would be a challenge. But was not really prepared for how many there were. From fuse cross sections, formers, and having to adjust the wing gear mounts to accommodate the gear, it was a busy winter last yr. With that said, anyone with a little patience, can build this plane.
Btw..here is a pic next to my top flight Bonanza and also a giant v-tail that I may do next. As far as I know, there were only two of these fuselages made. I bought second hand from Paul Letorneau . I really just wanted the gear, as he had both..but could be a neat project.
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Well, primer, rivets, panel lines, etc...and white paint. Next is trim colors and assembly.
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Impressive Gibb, I'm jealous! Your work is top notch! I have been meaning to ask where did you find the cowling? I was wondering what the dimensions were of it. I haven't started on my Bonanza yet. I am tempted to do something like you did to substitute for a vacuum formed canopy.
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Danny Carozza at [email protected] is the source for the cowl.
and, no...my plane is not top notch. This is not built as a show plane...everyday airplane is ok with me.
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Well, tried vaccuforming the windows.....uh. well...tried. didn't work out....so glued and screwed them on...now to trim colors.
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Need to add a pilot..and interior.
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Old 06-24-2018, 12:23 PM
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