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Old 12-05-2007, 03:01 PM
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Er....16oz is just fine. I..um...actually...er....sort of....huh....left my throttle linkage (ballmount) a little loose one day......had a really good half hour flight at 1/3 throttle though

Actually, standard servos will work fine for this plane, someone did the numbers for the speeds this plane flys and the size of the control surfaces. Unless you are doing a power dive, etc they will be fine. I do have two elevator servos (I did all Sullivan pushrods). Any servo's with more Torque than the standard servos will do you fine, including the ones mentioned above. Both VG and Brian (BHole, many Brian we really need to discuss your nickname someday) have great advice. Brian, once again, I had a great time flying with you and Dean this year and I look forward to next fall.
Old 12-05-2007, 03:39 PM
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Yes, the DuBo are brown. The Sullivan stoppers (white and black) are a bad idea, neither works.
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Sweet picture bhole!

I have a while to decide on which tank I put in. I actually have a dubro 16oz tank as well. I am not sure about the stopper though. Are you saying the 'GAS' stoppers are brown in color?
Old 12-05-2007, 03:43 PM
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Leave it to Roger, I warned him, he didn't listen!
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Er....16oz is just fine. I..um...actually...er....sort of....huh....left my throttle linkage (ballmount) a little loose one day......had a really good half hour flight at 1/3 throttle though

Come to Hammers, we won't tell anybody your in town.

BHole? I was born with it. What a curse!

Actually, standard servos will work fine for this plane, someone did the numbers for the speeds this plane flys and the size of the control surfaces. Unless you are doing a power dive, etc they will be fine. I do have two elevator servos (I did all Sullivan pushrods). Any servo's with more Torque than the standard servos will do you fine, including the ones mentioned above. Both VG and Brian (BHole, many Brian we really need to discuss your nickname someday) have great advice. Brian, once again, I had a great time flying with you and Dean this year and I look forward to next fall.
Old 12-05-2007, 04:51 PM
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Bhole,
Beautiful picture of Bertholds Blue Birds! I love Marconnay's 4D. Your picture is great, especially with the houses in the background.

Sean
Old 12-05-2007, 06:13 PM
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Thanks for all of the info! You guys are great!

Prop Nut....Do you have part numbers or info for the pushrods you are using? BUSA's site says you will need 'gold n rods' and 'gold n cable'. I figure the rods are the push rods, but what is the gold n cable for. Hopefully this is not too dumb of a question.

Phil

If these motors can run that long off of that little of gas then they are WAY more efficient than my weed eater !
Old 12-05-2007, 06:32 PM
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Phil, Gold n Rods are a model name for Sullivans line of control linkages. You can see thier product line and info about them here: http://www.sullivanproducts.com/GoldnRodContent.htm

Actually, I am using a 33cc Homelite Chainsaw conversion motor on my DVII these days. The FourStroke Briggs and Stratton is on my Fokker DVIII now. Some Weedies are better than others.
Old 12-05-2007, 07:06 PM
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I like to use the Golden rod cable for my throttles. On a gasser though you need to use a plastic clevis to eliminate engine noise. Sullivan makes many pushrod products and I feel their clevis is superior to any other on the market. Any of the rod in tube varieties will probably work well.
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Bhole,
Beautiful picture of Bertholds Blue Birds! I love Marconnay's 4D. Your picture is great, especially with the houses in the background.

Sean
Thank You, but I insist you thank WinterHawk, he took the picture at the HDP in Muncie.

Dave, this is what I use, carbon fiber.
[link]http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFV45&P=0[/link]
Old 12-05-2007, 11:16 PM
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Dave, is that a 1/4 or 1/3 D-VIII. Hammer has a 1/3 with a fox 80 I believe. Plenty of power.
Old 12-05-2007, 11:26 PM
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Its a Balsa USA 1/4 scale that I built from plans Brian. Here is a video of the second flight.

http://media.putfile.com/Fokker-DVII...-Stroke-Gasser
Old 12-05-2007, 11:56 PM
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The 32oz. tank will allow gas to swash around if you don't fill it. That's a lot of gas. I use Kaven 20 or 24oz tanks. You can get them from Sig MFG. 16 oz. should be fine however.
Old 12-06-2007, 07:48 PM
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Excellent news from BALSA USA. I asked them to fess up and disclose what was coming down the pipeline, and I got the following answer (that is all they answered, did not even give a name):

<<40 Size Nieuport 17. Then a 1/3 scale Albatross.>>

That is all they said. I e-mailed back asking for approximate release dates. The Albatross will be a winner:-)

Gerry

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Excellent news from BALSA USA. I asked them to fess up and disclose what was coming down the pipeline, and I got the following answer (that is all they answered, did not even give a name):

<<40 Size Nieuport 17. Then a 1/3 scale Albatross.>>

That is all they said. I e-mailed back asking for approximate release dates. The Albatross will be a winner:-)

Gerry


They confirmed end of summer 2008, into fall... I figured you guys wanted to know...


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We already have a fleet of 5 Albatri planned, just waiting on the kits. Care to join us?
Old 12-06-2007, 08:11 PM
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We already have a fleet of 5 Albatri planned, just waiting on the kits. Care to join us?

Wow, non less than 5! I'm joining on the wait! I just loved the one they have at the museum in Seattle (one of my favorite museums)... With 5 1/3 scale Albatri taking to the sky at the same time, you will not be able to see the sun...

Soooo many beautiful planes, sooo little time...


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I know that candy stripped Albatross.

We are planning to do the Jasta 15 squadron.
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I know that candy stripped Albatross.

We are planning to do the Jasta 15 squadron.
Neat! Will be quite a sight.

Gerry
(You know they WILL kick us out fo this Fokker forum anytime now if we keep albatrossing...)
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(You know they WILL kick us out fo this Fokker forum anytime now if we keep albatrossing...)
Wouldnt that be Albatrolling? :>
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Excellent news from BALSA USA. I asked them to fess up and disclose what was coming down the pipeline, and I got the following answer (that is all they answered, did not even give a name):

<<40 Size Nieuport 17. Then a 1/3 scale Albatross.>>

That is all they said. I e-mailed back asking for approximate release dates. The Albatross will be a winner:-)

Gerry

That is so cool! I really could not handle a 1\3 scale though. But maybe a 1\4 will be coming up shortly behind it. I just love BUSA with what they provide us with. With so few kit options available it is nice to see more coming from them.
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Never too many Fokker D VII's, and never ever enough D Va's...count me in on the Dave Johnson design for BUSA.
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I couldnt bear to build a 1/3rd scale after seeing Dave's this summer. I am not worthy!
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I couldnt bear to build a 1/3rd scale after seeing Dave's this summer. I am not worthy!
Amen. He's living in the high country!
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vascrats,
Why don't you try doing the pull-pull control system on your rudder at first? It is the easiest to do and once you see how easy and accurate it is I think you may become a convert.I haven't used Gold-n-rod since the early 80's,due to its propensity to expand and contract with the temperature.
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Jtisch,

Thanks for the advice. I will have to see how well the rest of the build goes getting to that point. Hopefully I will feel good enough about my skills to go that route. I have been fighting this stupid cold for about a week now. Mix that with all of the panic of the holiday season (gift getting, gatherings, etc....) and I have not had much time to think about my DVII that is currently trapped in that oppressive looking box of balsa wood in the basement.

My next step is to get the 'hobby table' cleared off and get the area ready to build. I don't think the base table will be a problem as it is very sturdy and has a flat level surface. I tried to recall how I built the Aerostar previously but it has been way too long ago. I am trying to figure out what to do for a base for the pins to go into. I have a couple large sheets of styrofoam about 3/4" thick and maybe 5'X3' each. Would that work to lay the plans over and the pins to stick in? Secondly, do people still use wax paper to put over the plans? I have heard of people using glass but I would like to see how this build goes to see if I have any more large scale planes in my future to invest in a big sheet of glass.

Do you guys have any links to some good basic building tips threads with some basics on pinning the pieces, gluing (if using non-CA glues) and such ?

P.S. I just can’t wait to unwrap the G38 and DX7 Santa is bringing.
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I am trying to figure out what to do for a base for the pins to go into. I have a couple large sheets of styrofoam about 3/4" thick and maybe 5'X3' each. Would that work to lay the plans over and the pins to stick in? Secondly, do people still use wax paper to put over the plans? I have heard of people using glass but I would like to see how this build goes to see if I have any more large scale planes in my future to invest in a big sheet of glass.

Do you guys have any links to some good basic building tips threads with some basics on pinning the pieces, gluing (if using non-CA glues) and such ?

P.S. I just can’t wait to unwrap the G38 and DX7 Santa is bringing.
I used to have a closet in my office with a sliding door (plywood). When I needed the board to build, I did take the door out to the shop, and used the back of it for the building. Being plywood, you could press pins in it w/o problems.

When we moved to the new hose, I went to Home Depot and purchased a door panel. Well, apparently they do not do them anymore of wood. It is of a composite material "sheeted" with wood. To make a long story short, i cannot press pins into this panel. I will have to keep looking or, sheet this door with plywood... I do cover the bluprints with wax paper, and it works great. Since I use pins, ang glass and pins do not mix, I do not use glass. Remember, the surface you build on HAS to be flat, and big enough for your top wing (the biggest part of your bird). I set the parts on the board with pins. In othe words 1st the board, then the blueprint, then the wax paper, and I build on that. I am curious to hear from the rest of the people to see if there is a better way... Sometimes I glue home made wood jigs to the door w/CA. Like when you are working on the fues and you join the sides of a fuse together, and you want the sides to be perpendicular. Once finished, I just rip the jig of the door, and lightly sand the area and voilá. Once the building was done, the door went back to the closet! Yes, the door looked surface like crap, but it was the side that you do not see, the other side was stained:-)

Gerry

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