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Old 01-05-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default RE: 10 ft PC6 Turbo Porter

Its a great model. i love that it has a turbo porp engine.

thanks for posting the pictures.


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Old 01-05-2007, 11:42 AM
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More progress on the Porter. Fabricated a canister pipe tunnel for the K&S 94v-4R muffler. I'm going to mount it so the line in to the muffler is inline with the exahust of the R50. Unfortunatley this will require the muffler exit line to have a 90 elbow extension welded on to get the exahust going out the bottom of the plane instead of the side ( or maybe up to the turbine exahusts on the cowl.... that would be cool ) . In addition will have a local machine shop fab a 5/8 x 1-3/4 prop hub spacer so the R50 cylinder is just behind the radius of the chin scoop. Revolution 50 fits nicely in the cowl, will install baffles inside to force air through the fins.

Also renforcing the firewall, using 5oz glass strips to make better contact with the ply rails.
Forward Cowl and fuse top sheeted. Pilot is from vaillyaviation.com

On to mounting the Cowl, I'm going to use a ring mount system so the screws are on the inside instead of the outside.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default RE: 10 ft PC6 Turbo Porter

Nice porter with all scale details. 1800 euros is 2341.00 at todays index plus on the give side 250 for shipping. That was a big risk. I wouldn't have done it. Hope it flys well for you.
Old 01-23-2007, 10:52 PM
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Thank Simco, hope the repairs are going well on your Porter

Well since we been having a cold snap here Southern California, I've been whittleing away at the cowl and belly (at least the heater in my garage is still working).
Cowl is aligned via 4-40 steel rods and 1/8" brass tubing (tubing is epoxied into the firewall) 6-32 allen head screws are mounted to the cowl ring on 1/4" standoffs. I ground down the threads toward the head of the screws to make them a "captive" type. The standoff are drilled and tapped for 6-32 thread. This way I wont have to fumble around with the screws when I mount the cowl. I will need a 12" long allen driver to reach the screws though.
Added a 1/4" ply renforcing ring on the backside of the firewall for the enging mount because of the big hole I cut for the pipe tunnel.
Had to put all the fusalage pieces togather to see what it's looking like....wow is it nose heavy, I'm glad my stabilizer/elevator is alittle on the heavy side now.
Firewall forward with the Revolution 50 and mount. As you can see on the front end is the 5/8" prop hub spacer (guess I'll have to polish that thing, that green paint draws you right in)

Landing gear is as per Martin's updated plans for a strengthen platform area. Only addition is a 1/8' x 5/8' aluminium strap for the wing struts to mount to ( just a semi-scale addition - kinda like the full size Porter has).
Next on the fabrication list is the landing gear struts/shock absorbers.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default RE: 10 ft PC6 Turbo Porter

wow... that looks really well done!! do you have any pics of the front without the cowl installed? i think i follow your desription on how you fastened it, but if you have one... post it up!!

keep up the great work!


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Thank Simco, hope the repairs are going well on your Porter

Well since we been having a cold snap here Southern California, I've been whittleing away at the cowl and belly (at least the heater in my garage is still working).
Cowl is aligned via 4-40 steel rods and 1/8" brass tubing (tubing is epoxied into the firewall) 6-32 allen head screws are mounted to the cowl ring on 1/4" standoffs. I ground down the threads toward the head of the screws to make them a "captive" type. The standoff are drilled and tapped for 6-32 thread. This way I wont have to fumble around with the screws when I mount the cowl.
Added a 1/4" ply renforcing ring on the backside of the firewall for the enging mount because of the big hole I cut for the pipe tunnel.
Had to put all the fusalage pieces togather to see what it's looking like....wow is it nose heavy, I'm glad my stabilizer/elevator is alittle on the heavy side now.

Landing gear is as per Martin's updated plans for a strengthen platform area. Only addition is a 1/8' x 5/8' aluminium strap for the wing struts to mount to ( just a semi-scale addition - kinda like the full size Porter has).
Next on the fabrication list is the landing gear struts/shock absorbers.

Scott

Old 02-19-2007, 03:41 PM
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Did some work on the upper gear mounts to keep the keep them from pushing the sides in. I used 2"x 12"x 0.125 aluminum and cut to shape. then filled in the mounting area with two layer laminated 1/8" ply on each side. Mounting screws are 6-32
Just waiting on some machining work for the gear legs attachment hardware then the front gear will be done.
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:05 PM
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Finally got the cowl mounted. was waiting for a long shaft allen driver. makes it really easy to take the cowl on and off. Also got the landing gear nearly completed, when I picked up the shaft extension from my friends machine shop I found my drafting skills need improving........ forgot to specify the extensions to be round. A round set are in the making.
Had to put all the pieces together to see what the big box of lumber was looking like. I'm really liking the 3-bladed prop. Current weight is arround 23lbs. Alittle on the heavy side but right now I'm just happy its not sitting on it's nose with the engine wayout there like it is. Canister Muffler exahust is being reworked to exit toward the left and down out the bottom of the cowl. Arthur Leung at Revolution Engines was very helpful in making the exahust header to my specifications.
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Old 05-12-2007, 01:21 AM
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Been doing some fibergalssing on all the flying surfaces and even applying some primer.
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Old 05-12-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default RE: 10 ft PC6 Turbo Porter

Looking good!! what type of paint are you using for finishing??
Old 05-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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Haven't decided on the exact paint but I'm thinking of a 2 part urethane. I have a friend in the car painting biz and I'll have to see what he recommends.
Old 05-20-2007, 10:51 AM
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Continuing on with the detailing portion of the program. I ordered a detailing kit from rcscaleproducts.com, it included 1/5 scale rivet tape, a white glue despenser and chartpak tape( for flush panel lines).
I found its best to take the tape up right after you get done applying the white glue. I let the glue dry overnite and a few of the rivets poped off. You can see the "new" rivets in the second photo.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:49 AM
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Hi, I have been looking at your messages. You have done a great job. I got the plans from MRaerodesign as well. Actually, my daughter bought them for me as a Christmas present. I used to fly a Turbo Porter in Nepal in the Mt. Everest area back in the late 60's and have been facsinated with them ever since. I did not get the kit but have hand cut/crafted all the parts. Yah, what a job! But it is coming along. This is the first time I have left a message on one of these site so I hope I am doing things right. If I can figure it out I will include a picture. I am getting to the point on what to do about an engine the landing gear. I have never build anything this big before or with a gas engine so I have things yet to learn. Keep up the good work.

Sorry, I could not upload the picture.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default RE: 10 ft PC6 Turbo Porter

Nice job Bob....any relatives in New Orleans?
Old 06-18-2007, 12:50 PM
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Sorry, no relatives in New Orleans.
Old 06-24-2007, 06:55 PM
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Hi Pete..

Your Pilatus is coming along great!!

I would certainly like to built another all metal Pilatus, The aluminum one I built years ago flew great.
Old 06-26-2007, 12:28 AM
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Hi Bob,

Wow, thats a lot of preproduction work. my hats off to you. When I opened my box, I was very thankfull that laser cutters were invented. It's very rewarding being able to plug the wings in to the fuse.

Just a quick view of the Revolution52 in the cowl. I'm going to make wrap around baffles (some resemblance of ) to try to direct cooling air around to the back of the engine too
Also jig used for cowl/engine alignment (why fight gravity....but you do need a small ladder)

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Old 06-29-2007, 10:45 PM
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Slowly advancing, boy the old saying of 'the devil's in the details' aint lying. Masking and painting the panel lines on the top and bottom of one wing. Then marking off the rivet lines. I think I got one extra rivet line on the back of the wing.
Finaly got around to fabricating the wing strut attach fittings, there not scale but I wanted something that would be easy to assemble at the field and stand up to hanger rash. On the inside of the wing I extended the 1/2x1/4 spruce rail the fitting attaches to so I would have a longer mounting surface. Wing strut tubing is 1 5/16" streamline tubing from http://seacommander.com Full size Porter photo is from MRAerodesign's Porter Photo pack. very handy
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:47 AM
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Got tired of doing riviets on the wing so I spent some time on the fuse. Mounted the tail wheel support plate, glued in the rear banner tow release assy, and closed up the back end. Did some final sanding and started fiberglasing the fuse.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:28 AM
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Good to see your progress.

I am a bit slowed down but have been doing some work on the fuselage as well. I was also going to cover the balsa with 3/4 oz fiber glass which I have already received. I need to learn the procedure for putting it on smoothly. I have never done fiber glass covering before and do not want to make a mess of it. What type of resin do you use and how do you apply it? I can see you are a expert model builder. I don't think I would ever have the patience for detail like rivets - even though I would like to. My friend built his Porter with actual rivets on his all metal model. He is truely amazing!!!!

I am still debating about an engine. You have a great installation on yours.
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on those wing struts, how is the end fastened to the strut itself? does it come from Sea Commander that way?

thanks for posting up the progress, i'm watching whenever there are new ones!

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Slowly advancing, boy the old saying of 'the devil's in the details' aint lying. Masking and painting the panel lines on the top and bottom of one wing. Then marking off the rivet lines. I think I got one extra rivet line on the back of the wing.
Finaly got around to fabricating the wing strut attach fittings, there not scale but I wanted something that would be easy to assemble at the field and stand up to hanger rash. On the inside of the wing I extended the 1/2x1/4 spruce rail the fitting attaches to so I would have a longer mounting surface. Wing strut tubing is 1 5/16" streamline tubing from http://seacommander.com Full size Porter photo is from MRAerodesign's Porter Photo pack. very handy
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Hi Bob and Swixtt,

Bob - The fiberglassing is pretty easy, I will post some pics of the process when I do the fuselage sides. Here's a link that I used for learning.
http://www.rcscalebuilder.com/Tutori...ng/default.htm
I couldn't bring myself to using 80 grit sandpaper on the cloth so I opted to use 220 and spend more time. Also I'm using West System Epoxy ( 105 resin and 206 hardener-slow). Its a thin epoxy so no thinning is necessary
I mix the epoxy by weight in 15 gram resin/3 gram hardener batches. I apply the epoxy as in the tutorial, from the center outward with a plastic Starbuck's giftcard. ( I run some 400grit sand paper around the edge to smooth it out )
I started with the fin first because I didn't know what to expect either.

Swixtt - I'm going to attach the fitting as per the full scale - using 6 2-56 screws and nuts drilled through the streamline tubing and the fitting. The fitting itself I cut out of 3/8x1/2 6061-t6 bar stock. just used a file to "machine down" the ends to fit into the wing fitting then rounded it off.
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:51 PM
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Fiberglassing the fuselage sides. I ran out of .7 oz glass and had some 1.4 oz cloth so I used that on both sides.
You can see the low spots on the top of the fuse that will get evened out with a high build primer. I didn't want to sand too far down and risk going through the glass.
Put the wings on after I got done with the flow coat/sanding and glued the tail group on
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:13 PM
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Just doing some miscellaneous items to work my way toward putting some primer on the Fuselage - that will be a good day.
Using bondo on the Fin/dorsal fin gap
Installing the jump door rail standoffs - 1/4 balsa
Cutting oversized jump doors- used 1/16 ply and will be fiberglassing both sides to stiffen them up, with some carbon tow
Finnished cutting the lower wing strut fittings - upper strut fitting are on the top of the picture.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:28 AM
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I have been watching your progress. Great pictures. You are really coming along great!

I have been working on the landing gear recently and have been looking high and low for those 3/8" x 4" springs. Can you give me a hint on where I can find them? I have checked hardware stores even online but still no luck.

Thanks for the tips on glassing. I will try it when I get further along.
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Hi Bob,

I thought I had my landing gear all figured out, was going to us a gas spring unit with a shaft extension on top. Only problem is that the damping is all at the first part of the travel instead of the last. This would make for hard landings, not the cushy, landing on a couch type the springs would give. So, that means I will be looking for 4 in. springs also........ anyway here's what I thought I was going to use.

Been working on the tail wheel assy..... here's some progress pic's will probably be a little on the heavy side, but should help balance out the engine way out front.
I used silver bearing solder and a 200watt solder gun the connect all the pieces.
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