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Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

Old 02-04-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

Has anyone compared 3 views!!!! I did.. We looked at the F-33, A-36 Bonanza's, B-55 and B58 Barrons. Any Interest!!!!!
Old 02-04-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

I have been looking into doing that. I used to own a B-55 Baron and a few Bonanzas. The B55 fuselage is the same from the firewall back. The wings need an extension on the tip. The horizontal and vertical tail surfaces would need enlargement. I would build a fiberglass nose and use the nose gear in basically the same position. The main gear could remain the same.
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

Okay, I subscribed to this thread to watch you do it. I'm interested.

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Old 02-04-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

Yeah, you go Teamscale! The size difference in the fin/rudder is just visible in those three views. If you need it, I can give you all the measurements or dimensions for the B-55. As said above from just about the firewall back the 33 is the same. I think the stab is close enough to work, too. The nacelles shouldn't be too hard to fabricate, either. This just looks sooo do able. Go for it, man!
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

Looking forward to this bash. I've been thinking about doing the T.F. Arrow as a Seneca 1.
Good luck with your project.

Chuck
Old 02-06-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

You are in luck. Just got back from the airport withe a 3-view for the Seneca l. I will scan and post it tomarrow!!! Also the Turbo Arrow lll. (taper wing)
Old 02-06-2005, 04:28 PM
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Thanks a million!

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Old 02-08-2005, 04:36 PM
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Looking forward to this bash. I've been thinking about doing the T.F. Arrow as a Seneca 1.
Good luck with your project.

Chuck

The Seneca-series were derived from the old Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga singles. A Piper twin with the Archer/Arrow fuselage would be the Seminole. That wouldn't be too difficult a kitbash.
Old 02-10-2005, 03:33 PM
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OK going high tech. We're going to print the B-55 on the plotter tomarrow. the wing span will be 90".. A big thanks to Beech bum and the Ampbomber. STAY TUNED
Old 02-10-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

I was actually considering doing this with the Sig Bonanza kit. I'm building a regular BE33 now, but I have another kit just for the BE55 bash. So I am very interested in your project, although it is larger than the one I had in mind.
Old 02-11-2005, 01:50 PM
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The Bash is on!! Barron 55 90" contact me privately for copies.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

I love this idea. Keep the posts coming. Will you be able to use the Bonanza wing, or will it have to be done frome scratch?
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This is all Bonanza. leghthen the tips, same gear bigger tail surfaces. SCRATCH BUILDING using TF Bonanza Parts!!!
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Teamscale, that view shows the older style wind screen. A lot of Baron/Bonanzas have been updated to the so called "speed slope" wind screen. Mine has had this done. I forget what year it was changed at the factory. The 58 three view shows the newer profile. The TF Bonanza Wind screen will work perfectly. I just can not wait to see what you come up with. Are you thinking a 'glass nose or a built up nose?
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While waiting for some glue to dry on the Arrow I rolled out the Barron drawing to see how the Fiberglass Spec. Canopy / cabin top fits.
Looks good. I have to resist the temptation to start cutting balsa. till the ARROW is finished!!!!
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Old 02-12-2005, 05:41 PM
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Default RE: Kit bashing the Top Flite Bonanza to a Barron!!

I saw the Piper post. Looks like you at the point where the airframe needs to "season" a bit. I think you should put it away for a while, and get this Baron going for the rest of us.
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SEASON!!! Sure it will season on the static table at the Toledo show. It will season over the sunny skies at TOP GUN in Lakeland FL., at the NATS, Mint Julip, Scale Masters!!!! Build it and FLY it!! OK I got to get back to work , more fine sanding before covering!!!
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Here's some pictures of a Colemill Foxstar Barron 58..
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Hey man how about a Twin Bonanza. It would be less major rework. I bet it would be the only one at any event you attend. Can you image an engine out on that! Here a link with some info:
http://www.airbum.com/articles/Artic...inBonanza.html
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Wow, that looks very doable...if I could find another Bonanza kit (curses to you, Top Flite!)

I have one that will be stock, I would love another to do that twin.

Don
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SEASON!!! Sure it will season on the static table at the Toledo show. It will season over the sunny skies at TOP GUN in Lakeland FL., at the NATS, Mint Julip, Scale Masters!!!!
With film covering...are you serious?
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Monokote. yes I'll save the paint for the rest of you scale guys!! Started drawing the Barron 55, rudder's done. fuse started. Pictures soon!!!
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WELL this is what I did during lunch today!!! IT'S a START What do you think!!!
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Monokote. yes I'll save the paint for the rest of you scale guys!! Started drawing the Barron 55, rudder's done. fuse started. Pictures soon!!!
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against film covering...just not on any plane that you are taking to a majority of the events you listed...will they even let you through the gates at Top Gun or Scale Masters with a film covered model?

Like the bash idea and nice drawings. Is that pencil on vellum? Wow. It's ye olde "CAD software???...We don't need no steenking CAD software" thing, huh? Good job!

Paul
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Looking forward to this bash. I've been thinking about doing the T.F. Arrow as a Seneca 1.
Good luck with your project.

Chuck

The Seneca-series were derived from the old Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga singles. A Piper twin with the Archer/Arrow fuselage would be the Seminole. That wouldn't be too difficult a kitbash.
You are correct but to bash a Seminole would involve building a completely new tapered wing and dealing with the t-tail. The Seneca 1 with the hershey bar wing is based on the Cherokee Six which is based on the the PA28. I thought it would be a lot easier to lengthen the fuse, increase the tail size and extend the wingtips a bit. It wouldn't be perfect but I think it would capture the look of the Seneca.

Chuck

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