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Old 09-16-2005, 04:37 PM
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I am building a bristol scout but i can't seem to find good photos for the details all i can find are in b&w and you can't see much detail.

is there some one who has?

laurence
Old 09-17-2005, 07:40 AM
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Dear LDalmas:

The PIPE Here once more...and I'm doing up a set of GIANT SCALE (1/4th size) CAD-drawn plans for Lanoe Hawker's "No. 1611" Bristol Scout C from 1915!!

It's going to be my very FIRST RC Giant Scale WW I aircraft...I've already got an RCV 120 SP "geared output" four stroke engine for it, to swing a 56 cm "nearly SCALE diameter" prop (it CAN swing those after a good break-in period)...and if you got yourself a copy of the Windsock Datafile No.44, the J M Bruce authored volume on the Bristol Scout series (I got my copy from http://www.hrunway.com/shop/en-us/p_105.html at Hannan's Runway in Calfornia...and where you ARE right in the middle of the Mediterranean, the UK based publisher of these books, Albatros Publications, should ALSO have them available at http://www.windsockdatafilespecials.com/datafiles.html )...you would have a GREAT initial document to start building YOUR Bristol Scout from!

If you asctually wanted to do the "later" Scout D version, my old RC buddy HANK ILTZSCH designed up one nearly a quarter century ago for the US "Model Aviation" magazine...check at http://www.modelaircraft.org/plans81.asp , and it's plan number 328 that you're looking for there. I've got a copy of Hank's plans set myself... and they are MAGNIFICENTLY done, with every detail in place...and they are STILL READILY AVAILABLE...please let me know if you'd like a set of printed-out pages of his construction article for HIS Bristol Scout D design !

The Scout C is a "quirky" aircraft, since it changed a "fair bit" in the details from one production batch to another. One example of this is that the first two production batches in 1914 and 1915 actually had the rotary engine's oil tank located BEHIND THE PILOT'S SHOULDERS...which is EXACTLY where it is on Lanoe's No. 1611...and a publication that both Hank and I subscribe to, Leo Opdycke's WW I AERO quarterly (one issue per season) magazine, at http://www.aviation-history.com/ww1aero.htm , had a drawing OF that early oil tank's location AND the whole set of "plumbing" to get the engine's oil from right behind the cockpit forward into the nose.

So, if you're planning on a Scout C version, my CAD-drawn plans are getting worked on...the Scout D plans are available from the USA source I've already mentioned in RC Quarter Scale...and be SURE to get yourself a copy of Windsock Datafile No.44, as those will NICELY help you create a Bristol Scout you'll enjoy for MANY years to come...and just "private message" or Email me, through RCUniverse, if you'd like some more help on getting info for your Bristol Scout project! (And ATTCHED is a photo of the Scout C I'm going to be doing...Lanoe Hawker's No.1611!)

Yours Sincerely,

The PIPE!

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Old 09-17-2005, 09:18 AM
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thankyou very much for your help, i am building a 1/6 scal and i am useing a 40cu diesel engine for it and i can turn a 13" or even a 14" and reduce pitch as much as possable this should give a scale sound as well. i am building from a kit and it was quite hard to find because all you find to day are artf and in my opinion it is a disgrace to the hobby because it is killing creativity in the hobby. the kitt is quite low on details so i can easly choose which vertion soots me best.

regards laurence
Old 09-17-2005, 02:59 PM
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In case you don't know it, it was a Bristol Scout Squadron (6 models), designed by Jim Messer and Bob Dunn, that was the start of giant scale in the USA in 1975, members of the Southern Tier Aero Radio Society, STARS. A couple of weeks ago, the AMA was kind enough to recognize this gold leader club for their pioneering efforts regarding giant scale. The squadron was developed in 1975, and first flew as a squadron at Rhinebeck in 1977, powered by Roper industrial engines. At the presentation on 8-28-05, five of the original scouts were on hand, and three of them flew together, 28 years after making their first flights.

I am well acquainted with Hank Iltzsch and I agree that his plans are magnificient. On our models, however, we used a Ritz 23012 airfoil, because at the time, our powerplants were untested, and we felt that the undercambered wing would just make the job of getting the squadron in the air a lot more difficult.

Attached are three photos. Two are of the lineup of the now 30 year old models. The last is mine, started, and ready for take-off. This airplane also - 30 years old.

Enjoy.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:56 PM
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Omg. I learned to fly with jim messer and bob duni remember well the first prototypes of the bristol scout.eventually they found a sthil saw chain engine that flew them.george privteer was also part of the squadron.what alot of fond memories at the star fiel in olean.
Old 05-03-2016, 01:57 PM
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A particularly good plan is available from RC Model World in the UK. It was done by Dave Hurell, a well known name among WWI enthusiasts. It is 1/6 scale and should serve you well.
http://us.trapletshop.com/bristol-scout

Martin
Old 05-26-2016, 05:54 PM
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A 40 diesel with a 13 to 14 inch prop is an excellent choice. I used a PAW .40 to power my VK Nieuport 17 AUW was 5 lbs 6 oz and the PAW spun a 13x6 prop at about 7200 rpm, which was more than enough. The sound was wonderful and the prop looked great. But I didn't like the goop and the smell so I'm in the process of converting to an old Enya 45 which runs similarly with an oversize prop. Hasn't flown yet.

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