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Old 10-16-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default TF 182 cargo door location

I'd like to cut in a working cargo door on my 182 to hide the RX switch, glow, and fueler valve. I've seen SDcrashmaster's 182, and need to know how to determine wherethe door is? Did you go off a former?
Old 10-16-2005, 05:36 PM
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Check the three view on this site for the location of the baggage door....

http://www.planesimulation.com/cessna1.htm
Old 10-16-2005, 05:59 PM
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Thanks nony!
Old 10-21-2005, 02:27 PM
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I made a gps antenna and made the mast the on off switch on my 182.
Old 10-21-2005, 03:08 PM
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Deadeye,
I took many pics of full-scale 182's and positioned the door visually from those. Don't remember if there were formers in the way or not. That was quite some time ago and with the full interior in her, I can't look and see. I can tell you that if formers were in the way, I would have cut through 'em. I framed around the opening to create a scale sill. Tricky part of the cargo door is getting the offset gear door hinges right without jeopardizing the interior integrity of the cabin. If your just using the door to hide switches and stuff than that won't matter much. On my Cessna, I reduced the huge width of all the cabin area formers and doubled them. This allowed a very scale replication of the cabin. My motto is "the closer you get, the better it looks".
No 10 ft. rule here.

Good luck to you,
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:27 AM
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Deadeye,
I took many pics of full-scale 182's and positioned the door visually from those. Don't remember if there were formers in the way or not. That was quite some time ago and with the full interior in her, I can't look and see. I can tell you that if formers were in the way, I would have cut through 'em. I framed around the opening to create a scale sill. Tricky part of the cargo door is getting the offset gear door hinges right without jeopardizing the interior integrity of the cabin. If your just using the door to hide switches and stuff than that won't matter much. On my Cessna, I reduced the huge width of all the cabin area formers and doubled them. This allowed a very scale replication of the cabin. My motto is "the closer you get, the better it looks".
No 10 ft. rule here.

Good luck to you,
Paul
WOW! I think I'll just grind mine up and use it for toilet paper. That is just....drool. Thanks for the pics. If I can get mine looking 1/2 as good as yours, I'll be a happy dude. What a masterpiece!
Old 10-22-2005, 12:14 PM
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I would swear Paul has some kind of shrink ray gun or something!! Come on Paul, confess!

Greg,
Old 10-22-2005, 01:10 PM
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I would swear Paul has some kind of shrink ray gun or something!! Come on Paul, confess!

Greg,
All right, I confess, I do. It's called Photoshop.
For example, I shrunk a picture of my son and merged him with the photo of the model in the cargo door shot.
In the shot of the plane on the ramp in front of the open hangar, it is actually 3 photos composited in Photoshop.
1. a photo of the model. 2. an identicall photo that was shot way over exposed on the model that produced a nicely exposed, bright, interior, and 3. the hangar itself.
The trick is knowing how to outline (strip out) subjects using the sophisticated tools in Photoshop. Some subtle things to notice in that photo is the digital addition of the back hangar wall in the windows of the model. A little blue sky helps the photo also.
However, the model is unretouched other than that. Heck, I could have removed the Ail and Flap pushrods but that would lack integrity right?
The only retouching done to the model itself was the nose wheel pant. You'll notice in the original pics that it is tilting back as I forgot to straighten it when I shot the images.
Here are the three shots used, just to give you an idea of what I started with.
Thanks for lissnin'.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:06 AM
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Interested how photoshop helped accomplish this one?

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Old 10-23-2005, 01:23 PM
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Ya got me there. Photoshop was only used to resize that image for RCU!
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:55 AM
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That is amazing to say the least... What a plane.. Was that a kit to start with ?... I would love to try building one of those but know I could not aproach the detailing on yours... Outstanding.. What engine are you using ?...
Thanks
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:01 PM
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It's quite a model. The first time I saw the pics, I thought it was someone taking a picture of the real thing and then claiming it was a scale model. After closely looking, though, you can find the tell-tales....Not just the pushrods on the wing, but the dust on the control wheels has particles that are just too big!

Careful posing of the model helps a lot, too. Like the drooped elevators...just like you'd see on the real thing with the control lock removed.

Paul, ever think of adding the Cessna control lock to the model for static poses?

A fine example of the Top Flite Skylane, and how well it can be finished.

Another example of a super airplane is Teamscalepilot's Piper Arrow, also made from a Top Flite kit. In some of the pics you's swear he photoshopped the real thing...until you see it with the wing of (heh, heh)

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2561140/tm.htm

Old 10-24-2005, 01:48 PM
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Thanks for the props guys. Yes it is the Top-Flite kit. OS .91FS w/ Slimline Pitts-style muffler. All Futaba servos.
Bax, I don't even know what the "control lock" is.
Does it attach to the Elevator? Or, inside on the yoke like "the Club"?

Paul
Old 10-24-2005, 03:41 PM
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After closely looking, though, you can find the tell-tales....Not just the pushrods on the wing, but the dust on the control wheels has particles that are just too big!
Good one Bax... It is getting good when you have to look for "scale" dust to tell the differance.
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Crashmaster,

The control lock Cessna uses in their light singles and light twins is a piece of wire that goes into a collar that the pilot's yoke comes out of. It's like a cotter key that locks the ailerons and elevators. The wire then has an extension that has a red plate on it that covers the ignition switch. You can't put the key in until you remove the control lock.

If you go to any airport where there are a lot of Cessnas, you should be able to see a control lock or two. They're slightly different for different models because the ignition switch is in slightly different places.
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Thanx Bax.
Paul
Old 10-28-2005, 10:21 PM
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Paul, It's been along time. I still want to know where the elavator and the rudder servos are? And please post pic's of other planes you have built. Thanks.
And no photo shop here.
Like you told me. (Let's keep it real, at least scale).
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By the way. Do you have any pic's with the cowel off and showing the the engine position and make/model that you fly it with?
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Randy,
Don't have any pics without the cowl, sorry. OS .91 FS for power.
Anything you could possibly want to know about her is [link=http://home.san.rr.com/aircor/]HERE[/link].
The servos are up front, but their mounting is altered, as the rudder pushrod runs under the flooring as opposed to down the port side wall.
My only building these days is detail work for the jetset. Haven't been building any projects myself.
Thanks,
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Old 10-29-2005, 02:49 AM
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oh man, are those my gear all done and ready to go!!!!??? WOOHOOOOOO!!!
Old 10-29-2005, 12:13 PM
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Not quite just yet Greg, but they are not too, too far from that photo.
Interested in your thoughts on the canopy kit and its contents, once you've received it.
Paul
Old 10-29-2005, 02:15 PM
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hehe... Can't wait to see them in the flesh, errr, metal, errr, resin... might be getting the canopy kit today, ill most likely post with some pictures and such(after gaining my composure from looking at it myself of course) so everyone can get a glimpse at the beauty of a Paul Reese canopy kit for the big YA F-18.... Im sure its stunning!

Greg,

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