CCFPILOT

I also had the Royal B17, and I thought it flew great, but probably only had about 20 flights due to a broken wire in the transmitter on the aileron pot. Had to pay $35 to get the transmitter fixed.

I suspect the one you described may have been tail heavy.

lippo

Hello
Was your B17 from kit or did youscratch built from plans.

Thanks

Paul

aerowoof

anyone have a royal spitfire  .60 size kit that they could trace out a couple of parts for me to repair a plane I took out of the trash. main spar joiners,fuselage side and first two formers ?

Chad Veich

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If no one comes to your rescue there is a pretty good chance you can find a copy of the plans on ebay.

stick08

Royal / Marutaka Cessna citation 500 converted to electric ,

Hello guys ,

it is not a WW2 bird as my Zero's but it is a very nice model flying so great after it was converted to electric , here the two last videos I made ,

I have many planes and jets, but this one have the best flying characteristic I never seen in a Rc model !


Video Maiden flight of the Marutaka Cessna citation electric converted jet, just click Maiden Cessna Citation on RCU video

http://rcuvideos.com/video/Maiden-an...essna-Citation

abd the last one from hard surface tarmac :

http://rcuvideos.com/video/Cessna-Ci...00-from-tarmac


Thank you ,

Dan

Riddle4U

Very nice! Looks like an even better job than the Zeros. The running lights and strobes are a worthwhile effect! It makes me wish there were more civilian types at the high levels of scale competition (not necessarilly Royals, of course). It seems Royal created a pretty decent looking Citation at first, maybe second glance too. Maybe there needs be a civilian scale thread? Hmmm...

Thanks much, Eric

otrcman

Speaking of his Royal P-38, Scale Dail said, "Close to 200 flights and over 16 years."



Scale, you have my utmost respect and admiration. I built the Royal P-38 and managed to make 1 flight. Well, make that 9/10 of a flight.

My model was completed in about 1981, and it had two OS 40H engines. Good powerplants for the day. But the engine RPM's were not at all synchronized over the throttle range, causing lots of yawing moment every time I changed power. With all the dihedral in the P-38 wing, the yawing moment changes translated into lots of turn trim changes. I was able to trim it satisfactorily at full throttle and it flew most magnificently. But at every power change there was a whole new roll trim problem to deal with. After flying around for 5 minutes or so, I decided it was time to get it back down on the ground and spend some quality time on the engines before flight 2. Long story made short, the power reduction turning final rolled me too tightly into the turn and I hit the ground before knowing what happened. Making matters worse was the fact that the plane was painted in the British Model 322 color scheme of green & brown upper and pale blue lower. I think whatever chance I may have had to save the day was overridden by the plane blending into the background terrain.

This occurred at Rosamond dry lake, just north of Palmdale, CA. You could have driven up and collected the pieces as you say you like to do. The biggest piece would have fit in your glove comaprtment !

Details: Model 322 configuration, which to me is the most beautiful P-38 of them all. This has the smooth cowl, not the big chin cowl. No turbosuperchargers on the 322, so it's a very sleek machine. Mine was fully sheeted, then covered with .75 oz. glass cloth and then Superpoxy paint. B&D pneumatic retracts. No flaps. Gear door closed by gear movement. Doors didn't close as well as I'd have liked them to. Model was built in one piece.

I still have the fiberglas cowls (not installed for first flight). Also have the plastic cockpit, which survived the crash undamaged.

Dick

Riddle4U

That's an interesting story Dick! I am sorry you didn't get the chance to fine tune the sync a bit better. You may save someone else the heartache due to your proper description of the problems you experienced. I love Dail's '38, and he was one of the first to post here. I think the P-38 is my favorite Royal (I do like my Zero though). I also liked the looks of the FW-190 model, and I am currently working on a 1/6th blow-up of the Royal Corsair (Luke had a lot to due with that decision; I was going to do the Brian Taylor before that). I love hereing each new "Royal Story"! - Eric

p.s. If anyone knows any more history of Royal/Marutaka we'd all probably appreciate it. I now live about a block coincidentally from where Royal listed their U.S. headquarters (Denver, CO)..I think that is funny! I still have a .60 Royal Corsair with their cockpit kit also, and the old Rhom rotating air retracts (really may be the first air retracts I am aware of being made?). I'll build it nicely someday (gotta build the big one first).

stick08

Hi ,

more close up video , I like this plane so stable and so realistic , just filmed last week , I have more than 20 flights up to date


1) http://rcuvideos.com/video/C500-best...usic-part-1-mp

2) http://rcuvideos.com/video/C500-best...usic-part-2-mp

3) http://rcuvideos.com/video/C500-best...usic-part-3-mp

4) http://rcuvideos.com/video/C500-best...usic-part-4-EN

5) http://rcuvideos.com/video/C500-best-video-9mn-13

(5= same but with no music and video is in one shot

Dan

Baldeagle

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That is one fine looking bird.[sm=thumbup.gif]

EGRUNE

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Hi Guys',
I just acquired a Royal Products Hyabusa "Oscar" kit. Its complete with nothing missing and in great shape. I know the owner retired years back and the company closed. I'm trying to get an idea on value of the kit, and any other information.
Thanks Much, Eric.

bigtim

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look through this thread I think there is a link posted a few pages back that has prices listed for several of the Royal model kits.

as for value some where between 200-400$ is what you can expect, really with the economy as slow as it is, the kits that I follow, I watch as many as I can find, prices have slumped even on the collectable kits, couple of years ago I saw the same kit go for 440$ now there not going for as much.

I think the plan seller u.s.wing has also helped drop some of the prices as well, since he has parts and plans available unless your a collector you can build these planes for alot less than buying the origonal kits

for top dollar the box needs to be perfect and the contents should be intact,plastic baggs of parts intact and unopened and not worn, plans are not faded or torn, and the decals in pristine condition, if not its just another kit to build.

scale dail

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Very nice Citation!
I was flying my very old and feeble P-38 the other day and having so much fun. I was trying to not fly it so much but I cant help it. It is ME!
I took it to a scale meet last October in Phoenix and I was having so much fun, I got it a little too fast and pop! I lost an aileron. Not much different with both engines turning so it was time to land and I only got two gear down. Darn, two problems in one flight! Got down OK but it did get a little more beat up. The engines and retracts are all the same vintage, and I need to keep everything in one piece cause they don't make any of that stuff anymore!
In its life I have had three engine outs with this bird. The first I panicked and cut the throttle but did not make it back to the runway, and got some moderate damage. After about two weeks repair, I flew it again and on the second flight one flamed out on the bottom of a loop so I had speed and keeped the power on at full all the way back to final with full opposite rudder. Over the numbers, I cut the power so that it would straiten out. Got down OK. Same thing happened the next week, got it down OK. I was VERY lucky. I pulled the original K&B .48's and put in two rebuilt OS. 45FSR's and Have had two running ever since! First flight of the day I do the nose up test just like Dan Palmer said to do. Looking back, all the trouble I had, it may have been just a bad batch of fuel. Changed that too!
I have a few projects to complete first, but next year I will rebuild this wreck to something even Luke would be proud of. Will cronicle it here!

Riddle4U

Great narrative Dail! Glad to see you posting here. I love the old American engines. I never could get my K&B .40 with Perry carb to run consistently, though. Where is Clarence Lee when you need him? Ha ha. I have yet to own a Fox. I would like to see how they run (and support a remaining American maker [Happy 4th of July]). I have been interested in buying a Sig control line model and putting a fox .35 in it, and doing full silk and dope finish. Might be really fun! God Bless America! - Eric

Riddle4U

Egrune, I answered your personal e-mail, and just wanted to respond on the thread as well. Bigtim is pretty much spot-on with what I said in the e-mail. Like I said, don't let it go for under $300.00. I have the Royal Corsair..and I won't sell it, but $400.00 would be minimum for me there. There is a real collectors market, but now is deffinitely not the time. If our economy ever gets back to normal or better these things could start getting to $500 and better. That is not now though! Hold on to it. Royal kits are fairly nice scale models, and some designs seem closer to scale than others for the company. I don't know why. I like the Zero (for obvious reasons..I built it at 16), the Oscar is a nice one, the P-38 is really sought after, and of course their Corsair is truly a good rendition (and I think a treasure). As we've seen, the citation is a pretty nice model too! For those that haven't built a Royal kit, it bears repeating that experienced modelling skills are definitely required. One can get help, but they just don't have the nice Top Flite or other modern companie's build manuals with pictures and professional writing instructions. They also don't have the "tabs" that jig the frame properly. It is a wonder I got my Royal completed at a young age, and truth be known...it just isn't a perfectly straight wing. I tried to lessen the slight warp when I glassed it by kinda "clamping" the wing while the resin cured. It still isn't perfect, but probably flyable. I would know how to build it straighter today, oh well, it was a learning experience. I was good at carving the blocks though, and that is actually fun. If you don't like working with wood you'll HATE Royals! Best regards, Eric

Riddle4U

I hate to post so much in a row..but stick08 your Citation is cool ! I love the vibrant purple and gold sky in those videos also! Your videographer deserves credit! Where did you buy your running lights from? Those really add an extreme element of realism to your civilian plane. They also show up extremely well in your video taken late in the day! This is one of the nicest and more unique model plane videos I have seen. I like that you are flying smoothly (and not yanking loops with a Citation). I'd like to see some smoother approaches and landings though. You need to extend your downwind leg and turn base a little further out. That way you can develop a nice stabilized approach like the "big boys" do it. That would look even more impressive. Get a nice slow flare going and touch down softly with the nose up (one needs to do energy management and come closer to stall at touch down)! I don't mean to criticize, your flying is apparently very smooth! Just a slightest suggestion is all. Post more flight videos (and other people too!). Nice job! -Eric

stick08

Hi Eric ,

thank's for all the compliments to me and my cameraman the maker of the lighting systeme is a very nice guy that did a great job is name is Than Thran and here a link on rc group you can contact him if you need .

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...341776&page=46

yes I know I can make better approach , I will practice more until it will be natural , this plane is the more complicate kit I never did before,a lot of things had to be modified to make it with electric fan, but I had a great help from a nice guy in Australia that made first his own modified C 500, today I have a lot of experience how to modify kit in electric , I don't see or own an ARF jet that fly so nicely, any person interested to do the same kit is welcome I will help the best I can , the most difficult is to find a C500 kit from Royal/ Marutaka

I'm glad that you appreciate the C500, I think that only a full kit that you made your self give the full satisfaction when flying it.

thank's

Dan

EGRUNE

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Hi Fella's,
Just putting this out there for anyone who may be interested. I have a Royal Products Kit, its the Japanese Fighter Hyabusa (Oscar). It was my grandfathers and he never got around to building it. It is in very good condition with nothing missing from the kit. I opened the box to inspect it, then closed her up in order to sell. I will be posting it on RC Universe very soon. Anyone who may be interested ahead of time, let me know......Thanks, Eric.

My home E-Mail is: [email protected]

Ethesis

I'm building a royal p-38 starting with a set of plans. working on about 1 piece a week, since this is my first gas powered plane. Actually, this only the 3rd plane i've ever built from start to finish. (if i finish it). Later on, ill need lots of help putting the gas power in the plane.

Riddle4U

That is terrific, good luck with your building venture. I guess being an old fogie now, I must assume you've actually built the alternative to "gas", being an electric? I just hope you aren't starting out cold with a Royal. They are great wood carving fun! I hope you have some craftsmen (or women) to assist. You really can't help people by typing when it comes to that shaping task. I would be prepared to move the building board for the Royal. You're not going to make weekly progress, I am thinking. These models are very doable, and get a reputation of difficulty which is second only to scratchbuilding, but I applaud your gumption! I take it for granted you are not planning on actually flying a royal P-38 for your third plane ever...hmmm...first wet-fuel model, first scratch-build, first multi-engine, third model ever built..... (are you getting a certain hummm right now, it could be aliens). Just kidding! You definitely will finish five or six models before you would finish the P-38 (rationally speaking of course). Keep working on it on the side, though, I suggest. It will keep you motivated. You'll need to find a simple twin trainer to mess with at some point I think. Anyone else want to chime in? Good luck, and have fun!

Ethesis

The p-39 is my first gas-powered twin engine plane. I've scratch built planes before, all electric, but most of my time has been spent fixing planes people give me. I just finished building a 84in. wing for a fuse someone gave me. Im not too worried about the build going wrong, maybe the block sanding parts will take a few tries, but I'm not too confident in the gas engines or the equipment that go with them. The first pieces Im making right now are the ribs, i only got about 6 done.
By the way, what happened to Royal?

Riddle4U

Great project for you ethesis, can we change your handle to Gthesis now (gas thesis)? Kidding, it is comforting to see at least one electric fan try fuel powered airplanes. I am not down on electrics (the topic tends to get out of hand), they are great. I just think there is still a lot to recommend the simple high-energy density powerplant we've used for years. You'll like experimenting with the recips I think (and you'll have two engines to use as you please in the future). Many will be happy to help you learn about operating these powerplants. For starters, make sure you allow for proper fuel tank placement. There are different ways of explaining it, but keeping the mid point of the fuel tank level with the carburetor inlet has worked for me. The idea in any case is to neither flood the engine or starve it. You may use the inverted mounting for a P-38, this can be a little more problematic with cylinder flooding. you might try side mounting for practicallity. I might suggest a .40 sized intermediate sport model to get your feet wet first. You could break in each engine on it seperately (well broken in, reliable motors are necessary for success with a twin). Good luck, and I hope you have fun with nitro-power! I hope others will try the same engines also (who started with electric). This is not to suggest converting, just exploring as another alternative (the engine makers will thank you). In the future you will probably fly both! You will find not having to fuss with battery charging a surprising plus. Also, the engines have the same power from beginning of flight to the end, and great long flights can be achieved without noticing power loss (except when an engine quits...arghhh). When you get 'em broken in and the needles set right, that should rarely be a problem, and some of us like the challenge of getting them tuned perfectly! Ironically electric may be a good thought with twins, they tend to be more reliable (much less likely to quit). Losing an engine on a twin is an ultimate challenge (probably just pull the remaining engine quick and glide it back the best you can). When you get two recips synchronized nicely (same rpm throughout throttle range), the sound and power should be incredibly satisfying and impressive. check back with us throughout. Again, good luck. - Eric

Ethesis

Just loading up pictures of the 84in. wing, ribs, and a couple other miscellaneous parts. Almost completed the first sheet. Notice that the plans got cut off when they were copied. It might not look like it, but the most ribs got sanded down almost perfectly.

Riddle4U

Just a bit confused, what is the "84" " wing? Is there a name for this thing..don't quite follow what the heck that is. The ribs look good from what I can see on the P-38 though. Keep it up. Follow my advice unless you get better on the other mentioned items. Build a nice nitro intermediate sport model, The Sig Kavalier is beyond a doubt the best existing .45 sized sport kit (in my opinion of course). Like I said, you can get used to running nitro, and break both engines in on it. It flies "in the groove" just like the darn add says! Just fit it in on a seperate building board..it'll take you one month of dedicated "hour after work" type building to have one like the one in the pic I'll attach. If there is one fun model I enjoy flying the last fifteen years..it is the ol' Kav! It does quite good aerobatics too. It is the very plane that brought my skills to the point of moving to "expert" designs. I promise you'll thank me forever on this suggestion.

I hope everyone will be helpfull on the rest of your P-38 build here..I don't doubt it!

I am not sure why the attach button for photo upload isn't appearing. I'll try to do it in another post I guess.

Riddle4U

Here's some photos of the Sig Kavalier I built and still fly often. I swear by the design. Whatever sleaker models I've flown..this one is the day in day out plane I enjoy for relaxed or exciting flights!

Note: There is no ARF of this one. So you can be assured if you build it, ARF fliers may ask what's that? Your answer will be: you're going to have to build your own!
P.s. Also, I am not affiliated with the company in any way. Just a very satisfied customer! It is my thread (ours really), I suppose it's Ok to go slightly off topic?

Oh, I wanted to note; I did do the sunken cockpit as you can see. It is worth a few extra hours to paint a William's Bros. Pilot, and cut out a little seat back. I think it really brings the sport model to a new level. You'll also notice that I kept the same covering scheme as shown on the box. I am glad I did, I really think it looks nice..and very visible in the air. On sunny days you can fly it pretty far out, and see the sun glinting on the top covering scheme, which lets you orient well (it is solid red underneath). I have flown the complete intermediate AMA pattern sequence with it..no prob.