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Old 12-15-2009, 08:29 PM
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Larry you are off to the races my friend! Don't be intimidated by plans building. It seems you got all the tools...time to use them! Same advice to anyone here! It is a little extra time to figure out all the wood stock you need and then tracing some templates..everything else is fun. That is what so many miss nowdays.

I want to suggest Sig as a good supplier of building materials here. I just have always had a good experience with them and they have all the different stock you need from light contest balsa for sheeting to harder balsa for formers and ribs. You can get REAL poplar ply for those parts too (not the crap you get in modern kits). The plywood in most newer kits and ARFs is cheap and structurally just ok. It is light, though. You can find anything you need at Sig, Balsa USA seems to be popular now also..just haven't used them yet.
Old 12-15-2009, 08:52 PM
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Riddle4U,
I have used only BALSA USA for my small balsa orders in the past. You however can not easly spacify the weight, etcof the balsa with them. You order then sort when you get your order. I have neverpurchased balsa from Sig. I have built several of their kits with no problem with their balsa in the kit.
Questrion: Can you specify the balsa weight, grain etc with Sig?

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Old 12-15-2009, 09:12 PM
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Call Sig and tell them you want C grain or A grain and you'll get it (just as an example), same for hard or light contest balsa. Check out their site and see how they list it (pretty specific in the catalog). If you are nice you might get someone on the phone to hand select for you, or leave a faxed list of specific desires. I am willing to bet they'll work with you. Not saying Balsa USA isn't probably super also, I am going off past experience with Sig. With any such request it is simply a matter of being polite, and letting them know you'll be patient...since someone will (a balsa guru), have to go extra mile for you! Know exactly what you want, be specific with terminology, and I think you'll be happy. For the most part you can select grades straight from their online catalog (better to get their published "bible"). Ultimately you will be hand sorting for yourself with any provider, it is just nice to start with the wood pretty close to what you need (order a little extra where needed..so you can do your own sorting).
Old 12-16-2009, 03:04 AM
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Sure do miss a couple of the shops in Denver for that very reason. These guys were modelers/builders from way back and there wood supply consists of nothing short of being able to build a small, full scale, yacht. If you grabbed a piece of wood that they wouldn't use themselves, they would snatch it up and get you a new one for free just because it was their. Oh yeah and they only accepted cash, no credit cards, no checks. Talk about old school.. In fact all the wood that had been replaced for this build, and there was quite a bit of it from a flood that went from my 2nd floor clear into my basement, came from their. I know it isn't a Royal kit but neat in it's own sense.


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Old 12-16-2009, 10:03 AM
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Nicely crafted there P-V 1,

Did Royal ever produce a sea plane? (other than the Rufe)

Seeing the last several projects in the framing stage and all this talk of scratch building leads me to wonder how far along Lippo has gotten on his B-17 project?
Old 12-16-2009, 10:52 AM
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No it's not a Royal, I wish though. It's the Ace SeaMAster 120. I like showing pictures of builds, hoping to spark interest in people to build kits. Not that I have to do it on this thread, just too many ARF's now a days and not enough builders. It's sad that just like a lot of our WWI & WWII heroes, builders are getting slimmer and slimmer all the time.

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I knew the SeaMaster wasn't a Royal kit but, like you said, "it's neat in it's own sense." Also It's neat to see any kits being built-by any manufacturer. Arfs are ok for a relatively quick kit bash, although I usually wind up thinking that it probably would've been just as easy sometimes to build the thing from the ground up instead of all the modifications to something already 3/4's built. It's a shame there aren't more kits available in the airframes I'm interested in. I could, and have in the past, scratch build but it seems that buying wood by the stick is ridiculously expensive these days.

I was just wondering if Royal had ever produced any seaplanes other than the addition of a pontoon and some outriggeres to make the "Rufe".
Old 12-16-2009, 09:32 PM
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Here's another non Royal- just once! My latest- A tired vintage Top Flite F8F Bearcat rebuilt as Rare Bear.

OK back to royal! I will do some work on my ROYAL Piper Colt next, bashed into a Tripacer with flaps.
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:46 PM
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Very nice plane, is that a static prop or for flight? Looks fantastic on the front end.
Old 12-17-2009, 08:35 PM
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Nice looking Bearcat Dail! I love to here the building sentiment here! We can help it with threads just such as this! Never feel like you (anyone) can't expound on the "builder theme" here, I think that is part of what I intended. Let us do that, and also move forward the idea of building, that Royal kits were a prime example of. I love to here any builder comments, and comments about the loss of kits these days e.t.c. We will stick to the Royal theme here, just so future readers and current, know what to expect. Is there a thread here about kit building in general, or scratch building? I admit I kinda keep track of my subscribed threads the last couple years, and haven't explored RCU enough. I love my subscribed threads, and am happy to see familiar posters all the time. Merry Christmas, and of course to be friendly, any other holiday sentiments to better the spirit!

Scail dail: I like the Tri-pacer (saw her while training in florida years ago on a ramp). Super neat airplane that people can actually buy and learn to fly. Yes, I have to interject my full-scale interests as a well trained pilot (moderate time [private/comm/multi/inst.)....but sometimes you just say to yourself "I can't afford the real one so....a model it must be"!
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I really like two stroke glow motors they have a lot of power for the size, and will fit inside some pretty tight spaces. BUT, turning a scale four blade they won't do. That Rare Bear, as all my scale prop models, fly with a tiny prop that the engine likes. The static prop is just to look pretty. And maybe some idleing for pictures.
Here is a pic of how I will finish my Royal Colt/Tripacer. Next month I'll post some build pics of the model.
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Old 12-18-2009, 03:55 AM
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Wow! Again, just someone to honor the tri-pacer is unusual and cool. I am not that old but I still get it at age 47. Like I said, one could own and fly one of these today! Go Dail.
Old 12-20-2009, 04:15 PM
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lippo hows the b-17 coming along?
Old 12-20-2009, 08:11 PM
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If anyone is interested I started a thread in the kit building section on our Boeing P-26 group build based on the Royal kit.

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9346949/anchors_9346949/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#9346949]Royal P-26 Group Build[/link]
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I have to admit to not having touched the plane for 4 weeks,presure of work I'm pleased to say.I'm off now till January 6th so I can put in some quality time and show some more pic's.Thanks for asking.
Old 12-23-2009, 02:18 PM
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Heresmy royal corsair as it sits today with an o.s. 1.20 four stroke surpass.






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Are those 2 separate planes or the same at different times?
Old 12-23-2009, 05:42 PM
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Hey Fellas,

I just bought a built up 60 size royal corsair. However it has the fixed landing gear and no plans. If anyone has these plans for the corsair I would be looking to pay to have them copied and sent to me so that I may prepare to install retracts and possibly make flaps.

Thanks.

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whats your email?
I have the plans.
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same plane at 2 different times. When I got her She was covered in monokote and had an o.s. .61 fx. The covering was old and wouldn't iron down so i stripped her and glassed theplane. First time glassing. I made the mistake of using cloth for doing body work on cars because I could get it in bulk. Should have used 3/4 ounce cloth. originally probably weighed around 6 pounds with engine and electronics but now weighs 13 and 1/2 pounds. I'm going to use one servo for each aileron due to slop in the bell cranks, and will be building a laser cut royal corsair from a local kit cutter. Also if I wreck her I have nothing to lose as a fellow club member and friend of mine bought it last winter at a swap meet airframe only for 40$ and once I found out it was a royal I traded him a zenoah 38, 68" pitts bipe, and 88" big stick for it. I'v got around 50$ invested into it. she will be maidened this spring.
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Oooooh thirteen pounds? It will fly, make sure your engine is strong! That is funny that you used some heavier fiberglass. I wouldn't invest too much hope in an "obese" Corsair! It might make a terrific static model? You could surface it with auto-body filler and just get a scale look to it with standard scale modelling techniques, and an airbrush. I think I have a model that might just deserve the "hang it from the ceiling philosophy". Merry, Merry as people seem to say recently (Merry Christmas....what the hey)!
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I plan on pulling out the standard servo I have on the elevator and replacing it with a titanium gear high torque servo and using one servo per aileron. It will fly but it will be fast. If anything I plan on pulling the 1.20 four stroke that is in it and using a 17cc gas engine from troy built models. With the current engine there is about 2 pounds of led in the nose.
The reason for my determination to fly it is because I see no reason to hang it when i is all ready built. also I would rather attempt to fly it just to say I did it.
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I'm not sure that 17cc would be enough, I use the RCGF20cc in my H9 Corsair and P-47. They aren't over powered by no means and are about 4lbs lighter than yours. I would think about at least going 20cc, you may get it too fly with the 17cc but one wrong thumb in flight and you may not be able to recover especially in a turn. I'm never one to turn down a challenge and would prob try it as well.

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15cc isequal to a .91 four stroke 17 is equal to a saito 1.00 So I see where you are going but 17cc is currently in my price range until I build up some funds.
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lets see your corsair with that 20cc engine. What did you do to achieve the correct CG? I prefer not to add led and instead move my servo's and battery around.

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