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Old 10-07-2011, 03:54 AM
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Thanks Nmav8r - so to clarify, as you slide the wing into the fuselage wing saddle, the root would be at the point where the wing meets the front of the wing saddle - yes? That said, did you use 3 1/4 as your cg point? Thanks much
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:19 AM
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Mine flies quite well with the CGat 4.5 inches from the leading edge. Ithink Cliff's 3.25 inches is very conservative and at least in my case would require a lot of nose weight.
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Thanks Murphyj123 - did you balance your baron upside down or right side up?
Old 10-07-2011, 09:37 AM
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Upside down Ithink. It was months ago and unfortunately Iam 1500 miles away from my Baron so Ican't check. Sorry.
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Not a problem - thanks for your feedback - I hope you and your Baron get reunited again soon :-)
Old 10-08-2011, 04:12 PM
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Hey Cliff,
Been following this thread for awhile. You video sound track is I will tell you is really not appropiate and does not add too your product.
My 2cents.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:16 AM
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Really? I did edit the soundtrack...
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I just realized,,, sorry,, The edited one is not what I posted. I think I got ahead of myself and posted the first one I made. V3 is on our site but just so you guys can have the link....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ8rFigJrww
Really sorry if anyone was upset about the language. I love the song though!!
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Thanks Cliff.
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King Air update:
Im sure many have been wondering why the release of the king air has been delayed.

The growth of the company and our ability to produce better scale models has presented so many options with our new models, especially with the king air project.

I have had to delay this project a few times but feel that it is for the better. The process in which our new airplanes are made is really amazing.

Before the fuselages were a hand layup. This left an un even fiberglass part, where some areas of the fiberglass would have more epoxy than other parts.

The new process for the fiberglass parts is now vacuum bagging. There is a bit more preparation involved, but the result is a much lighter and stronger part. The pressure
is exerted over the surface in a uniform way and the excess epoxy is removed with a special layer of material that absorbs the epoxy and is later disposed once
it comes out of the heat/oven. For example, this is a prototype picture of our new 737. You can see the size compared to the factory guy holding the airplane. The weight
of that entire unit is only about 8 lbs. Yes, only 8 lbs.. its crazy. I saw this new process when developing our 737 and had to have it done for the king air.
I just felt that even if the price was increased, it would be worth it to produce a king air in the 80+ " wingspan that would weight much less than the baron 58.
The goal on the King Air is to have this airplanes take off weight to be about 12 pounds. So with all this said the king air model does exist. The prototype pictures and video
probably will not be released until nov or dec. Sorry for the delay but I really think it is worth all of the changes and delays.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:45 PM
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I forgot to mention that the 737 8 lbs number was with motors and servos. Wings are also fiberglass
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Waw, Waw, Waw that just looks totally amazing a 737 that looks like a real 737 I cannot wait to see this kit produced.

As for the King Air I am sure everyone is waiting in anticipation at how the kit will turn out like as i am sure it will look superb. And for you to be finding new ways of producing the kits that you make shows how innovative and forward thinking your company is. well done on this and all the other kits that your company is and will produce and we all look forward to seeing the videos of the king air in production

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will that 737 be mini jet engine friendly?

I am sure that there will be many model requests coming in in the near future seeing that you are creating ground breaking ways of producing them and that you are beginning to create jets, my request is a Gulfstream VII that would look AMAZING!!

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I have not looked at the option for turbines to be honest with you... Its set up for 90mm ducted fans
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will you be offering a painting service on the 737 in the airline of your choice and can we see some more pics of it please? I am guessing that you will offer retractable gear on it too?
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there will be fully painted airline liveries available and also requests as well. All the windows will be cut out,, cockpit available, working door, lighting system, scale ole struts, air brakes, flaps, etc... There will also be a pnp version, this meaning everything assembled, should take no more than a day for the customer to attach all the parts and fly.
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Hey Cliff -looks like you have a real winning formula on your hands. Can't wait to see the final product. Wishing to much success with new new process.
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that sounds absolutely amazing!!! as mentioned cannot wait to see the final product too! I had better start saving!!
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Hi Murphyj123, hi Baron58 flyers

Last Friday, my Baron58 and me were on the airfield, still alone and with a good and warm sun shine. So, I started my plane and made a beautiful 5 minutes flight and a good landing. For the next season, I would change my batteries to 2 x 5S 3300 mAh so that I can fly a longer time than with my 5S 5400 solo.

I wish you all "a hand full air under the wings and good vibrations" and a good time for the rest of 2011.

friendly greetings from switzerland

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Old 11-06-2011, 01:10 PM
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Daniel, Fantatstic !! IKnow how good it feels to have a successful end to a long and complicated build. That is just great. Now you also know how satisfying this plane is when setup right.

Very good news, congratulations.

It would be nice to hear from others who have had and are having successful flights with thier Barons.
What is your setup, are you satisfied, what would you like to change.
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I maiden the Baron last week and the best news is... I brought it back home in one piece. That said, I thought this would be a good time to take pictures of the final build and post to this site. The plane is running on:
• 2 Power 46 motor
• 12x8 props
• 2x 5S 4400mah 40C batteries running in parallel
• Castle Creations Ice 75 esc
I purchased the unpainted version and added my own color scheme. I also added landing lights that we carved out of auto body putty. The antenna was made removable - used magnets to attach.
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She looks fantastic rgaynor! Well done mate. I love the addition of the landing lights, I plan to do this also.

A question about mains retracts - is anyone using 85 deg retracts or is everyone using 90 deg? I thought 85 deg would make more sense due to the dihedral in the wing, but maybe not so. I was thinking of using the 85 deg E-flite retract mechnisms. Please advise.

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Thanks Jymster for the complements. I am using the Baron air retracts from RC Aerodyne. While they look very scale, they are not as good as Robarts - but don't cost as much either.

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