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Well, after printing the computer drawings and a couple of pictures from Larry........the light bulb finally came on! Oh, so that's what those little parts are for!

I layed all the parts out on the plans and benches, studied the graphics (nearly got my little pea brain fried in the process) - oh yea, bugged Larry with a couple of phone calls - realized I was missing a couple of parts and had a couple of other parts extra .........OK! now I'm ready to build a wing.

Maybe tomorrow I can actually glue some wood!

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Is there any info on price and availability for this plane yet?

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Art ,will you go and look at my post on the 1/2 Scale radial engine that i have been working on and let me know what you think ! I am six days into it and would like your opinion , PS ! never got a invite to your get together a few days ago , musta got lost in the mail by the mailman ! yeah i bet that is what happened ! Keep building ! billy

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Larry,
That is a great idea. A great drawing/picture is much better than typed words!


Art,
With this kit....you ALMOST look like a speed builder! LOL!
Keep up the pace and that in its self will sell those kits.
I can see the head lines now....

" If Art Shelton can build this in 45 days ....so can YOU!"


This should be a very educational build thread........Thank you both for your time and efforts.........

HPA


PS dont bother looking at Billys 1/2 scale radial.........[&:] its nothing special [X(][X(][X(].........................:):):):)

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[quote]ORIGINAL: Horsepoweraviation


Now that's funny!

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Work has actually started on the wing. Last evening was devoted entirely to establishing the building sequence and writing step by step instructions.

Believe it or not, I usually jot down building notes when I scratch build and much of the time they consist of sequenced instructions for a particular phase of the build. On a production kit, there just has to be some kind of written instructions. Even an experienced modeler needs to understand where the designer is coming from and a general approach to the build.

I laminated the two root ribs using 15 minute expoxy because CA would be too expensive and I didn't want to wait on carpenter's glue to dry. It's somewhere under all those weights on my desk.

I glued up the provided root rib angle gauge.

I joined the trailing edge together using a small a/c ply scab. Larry's laser bed is restricted to size and sometimes pieces need to be joined to get to the size required on the plans.

I also layed out the main spars, shimming them up with 1/8 balsa to account for the 1/8"balsa cap strips.

As soon as the epoxy cures and I get a bite to eat, I'll start laying in the ribs.

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Progress report:

All ribs are in, front spars with I beam shear web is in place and also the rear spars are glued.

You can see 2 rib bays where spar material has filled the space between the upper and lower spars. Even though this is a Fun Scale type of model, if a modeler wants to add scale landing and flying wires, they would be fixed at these locations. Anytime I drill through a spar for any kind of a filtting, I always put ply shear web material on the front and back of the spars. These ply shear webs replace the strength lost by drilling into or through the spars.

I think I'm finished for tonight.........

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Looks pretty good Art (Speed Builder).

k3 valley flyer

As soon as we have the ones that Art and I are building in the air I will be releasing the production kits.
Hopefully we will have flight videos by the end of March.
The pricing will be determined by then also.

Thanks,

Larry

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Art, how come the root rib looks like it's leaning the wrong way. Looks like you're building anhedral rather than dihedral. I suppose its a weird view but it looks unusual.
Doc

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That's what it looks like to me too. It might just be camera distortion, but...

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Forget the root rib...........thats not important........What is that tab doing under the 6th rib over!!??[X(][X(]



HPA

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I dunno:eek: gotta be the designer as I am using his angle gauge and one side is labled rib - which I put up against the rib.....

I looked at the picture again and it looks like you guys might be correct[X(] I better go have a look and see what's up.

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Let's have a look-see.........nawwww, I think we are ok here.

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Well Paul, leave it to you [:-] to pick out my mistake........

I modified rib #7 which is located where the trailing edge joins together.......actually, I modified rib #6 by mistake - so it was too short to reach down to the trailing edge, so I had to put a little step in to facilate the rib/TE joint.......blah blah blah blah

The short answer is "It's there because I screwed up!"[X(]

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Must have been one of those photographical distortions, an illusion as it were. Looks fine in the new pix.
Doc

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er, or maybe the eggnog.......... I'm just saying, ya know.

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Progress report:

Pretty much everything is on the wing that can be at this point........here's a picture.

Here's a question for all you cerebral types........ "Have you ever glued two parts together and wondered why they're not joining together tightly? Even after you have dry fitted it a couple of times and it was snug as could be........."

I'm just asking.......

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Chaos Theory meets Murphy's Law.

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Aaaahhh Arthur............
I usually read of some guy (Jim S. knows who I am talking about) that points out everyones "boo boos')......
I just wanted to feel ...what it feels like to be THAT guy..........
Hold on...........(i have to wipe the smirk off my face):):)
I feel terrible![&o][&o] Please accept my apology :eek::eek:


Cheers,
HPA

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Paul , Do not Feel Terrable ,,Where is the ,,,,,HUHHH in your Face ,,,Comments ?????? You did what was right ! CORRET HIM ! He would have done it to you believe you me ! Take a gander of the Engine I finished it up yesterday , let me know what ya think ! Kernal Corn Clink !!!!!!..................Art .....you almost had a Droopy wing Eindecker , now that would have been Funny !

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Paul, apology not needed [8D]. Ya know, there's always a fly in the ointment somewhere..........I just didn't get it covered in time to hide it:D

I took a day or two off, but have made slow progress today - and with a Colt's game in less than an hour it will probably get slower.

At least the second wing is under construction:)

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Nice to see someone else is in the shop today. BTW who are the "Colts" ?

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OK Art, it's halftime...back to work.

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[:-] From 2 wins last season to the playoffs this season, you know - THE COLTS !

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Sorry, slept through half time........

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Subscribed. Looking forward to watching your progress Art.

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Enjoying the build...I always wondered what was inside my ARF wings.

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Hi there Lucky Dog, welcome aboard!

Tim, you seldom fail to make me smile:).

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Wow, is HPA anal! I had to go back and look close to see what he was talking about. You should start posting fuzzier pictures so he can't find your little mistakes!:D

Jim

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Hey Art, I noticed it, actually two ribs had been shored up but it didnt look unlike something you might see on my bench. If Paul posted more pix of his work I'm sure there would be plenty to kibbutz about. Any way as we all know, Stuff happens!
Doc

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et tu, Doc[:o] The seventh rib was a design change that I made[8D] - the sixth rib was the mistake:(............

Can we move on now?

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OK, moving along - I have found a stopping point for this evening.

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LMAFROTF!:):):):):):) Way to go Geez!.................."way to get one in the back of the rib cage!"

HPA

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Hey Art.....ART! wake up!

How many "steps" do you have jotted down now ........ and when is the est. time of arrival for the fuse parts?

(i told you about that guy...Jim .....he is sensitive!)

Any who......keep up the good work and we will see you soon enough..........I have to go now....I have to post some pics for this guy named... DOC?


HPA

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Hi Art, just found your construction thread, great build. Hope to see it fly at the Dawn Patrol in Eureka Springs. It looks like a well designed kit. I built the SR Batteries Enidecker, it flys great with G-26. I'll be watching your build, thanks for doing the construction thread. Merry Christmas and say Hi to the wife.


Rich from Oklahoma

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Seriously, the glue has to have a place to go. One of the nice things about thin CA. If you have tight joints, it wicks in and makes a strong bond. Fillets can be added later for more strength. Then, while you have your good fit. You can add the glue then.

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Some shots of the fuselage design for inquiring minds.
Next step is locating servos and mounts for rudder. elevators and control cables.

I plan on cutting fuselage parts later this week.

Shown with a DLE60, ..........and yes a DA170 will fit

Larry

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Now your talking :):):):)

HPA

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Yes I have wondered about that. Don't know the answer but I'd guess one of two things: wood absorbs the glue from the joint or the combination of pressure and temperature isn't right to kick off the curing reaction.

Greg

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okokokok I'm awake now! I think I have all the steps jotted down - except for the ones which didn't pan out[&:], or the ones which I forgot to do[:@] or did out of order:(......and then there are the ones[X(][X(][X(]....oh, never mind. It almost feels like I,m back in school and this is a homework assignment[:'(]