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Old 02-20-2008 | 01:19 AM
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This isn't an RC, but I thought you guys might know what boat it is. I was looking to see if I could find where I live as a little kid in the Navy and found this in the water at Bremerton, Wa. What sub is it? I've never seen one that is pointy like this one.
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Old 02-20-2008 | 11:33 AM
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CLASSIFIED...[:-] expect a visit from the Bangor Boyz
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LMFAO thats not a sub!
Old 02-20-2008 | 05:58 PM
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LMFAO thats not a sub!
Then what is it? Here's a second one 1/4 mile to the west of the other one.
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Old 02-20-2008 | 06:54 PM
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I'll take a shot at it,SeaWolf-class,USS Jimmy Carter,SSN-23,what gives it away is the (bows)? 100' hull extension,making it more distinguishable than it's counterparts and making it a multi-mission platform....but this IS just a guess...lol.....[:-]
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Well that picture helped. The other picture had a mark indicating the sub tender.

That boat is deffinately not the Jimmy Carter.

Havent seen one with such pronounced angles. I havent seen the britixh boomer from over head. Might be one of those. They go to our bases all the time to get missile maintenance because we make their missiles.
Old 02-21-2008 | 01:16 PM
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It was the excess length of that critter that weighed my "guess".....,I do believe a new LosAngeles class sub was in the works...maybe.......[:-]
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It is a surface ship. Most of the top side structures are removed.
Still, It looks like a experimental hull design with a ridiculously narrow beam for speed and wave penetration.

It rode like a sub in rough water.

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Correction. I measured the beam. 1.2 cm length is 12 cm.

It sure had me fooled on the L to W ratio.

I base all real boats on my Chapperall.
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its a new guided missile cruiser USS long beach
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I do believe the locale is Bangor sub base,I think any retro/shipfitting of a surface ship would be done at PS naval shipyard,just down the road a bit....[8D]
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The big ship in the first photo is a dorm for the crews, I didn't mark it, what that was was on google earth they have pictures taken from the land, you click there and you see the picture taken from that spot.

The subs that I'm interested in are the very pointy subs with the sails very far forward, or very far back. The first sub I think is in the decommissioning area, the second one maybe too, but I think it's just a normal refit area. I think they take the reactors out of the subs here. Last time I was there I was visiting my son on the Nimitz, they had about 50 of the DD1024 type class ships there, it looks like they are down to 3 or 4.
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BY size and shape, I think those are two views of Triton SSN/SSRN 586--in two different locations. Have a look at Navsource

[link=http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08586.htm]Triton on Navsource[/link]http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08586.htm

Triton was the only two-reactor US submarine, built in the 50's as a "radar picket" to watch for Soviet missile launches. With those two reactors (I forget why), she was 450 feet long, biggest sub ever in our fleet--except the ballistic missile subs. For comparison the other sub nearby is probably 250 - 300 feet long, so it's about the right size...gotta be the 586, only one built that long with a sharp-end hull.

Wonder how old the photos are--Navsource says Triton's most recent inspection date was late 2007. Can't believe she's still around. (?)
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You nailed it, look at this picture, it's a ground picture of the first picture. I never thought that the view was a composite, and they caught the same boat in two places. It was an odd boat, wasn't it the first sub to circumnavigate the world?
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Old 02-23-2008 | 10:57 AM
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Way to go Crunchy Frog..... Nautilus was the first to do the globe...1958,while the Gudgeon was the first to do it submergered........
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I buy that the long sub next to the stripped down surface ship is about 450'. Triton. Very old fashioned " Cleaver Bow ".


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[link=http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_14/coldwar.html]This article on radar-picket subs has a section on Triton[/link]

She musta needed the two reactors to accommodate the size of the boat because of all that electronic gear! The purpose-built radar pickets were big suckers. Incidentally, we sank the last one (except museum-boat Requin SS 481) in May last year; Navsource hasn't updated their page on Sailfish SSR-572.

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well i work at PSNS puget sound navel ship yard most of all of you are wrong. trition is being made into razor blades as we speak, the picture of the 38 is not the same as the first one either (38 being cut up also). when were those shots taken cause the boats, ships move all around and there probably not now where they were then. as for the two subs on either side of the pier, im pretty sure i know witch ones those are but the pic is a bit fuzzy and like i said there all moved now. beside that not sure if im allowed to say witch boat is where lol.

ok after lookin over this thread heres some answers, its not a housing barge, its not the longbeach, its not the triton, the location is PSNS not bangor, its not any of the sea wolf class

now im not sure witch ship it is, but unless the photo is from pre-08 even though the date says 08 its none of the ones mentioned, ill find out at work tomorrow and let yall know.



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It is a Russian or French WW I fleet sub.

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i stand corrected i was told today at work it IS the longbeach, cgn 9 i belive, lol

it looks odd because all of the superstructure has been removed, its just the hull
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It is so nice to see the milatary pennypinchers having to scrap Aluminum boats.
NO resistance to any type of missle damage or placed charges. Easy to make garbage if you are not on the boat.
Aluminum is great on the side of a house. Not in a war zone. So much Aluminum in that boat, that it had a call sign of "Alcoa".
Real "scarry" name for a cruiser.


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thats funny stuff there rich lol, strangely enough though there still built like that. makes me kinda glad i just fix them not live on them
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Aluminum was supposed to be removed from hull and structure list of materials on newre boats.


History channel special about the Destroyers.
I can just see the metal turning colors after a few good sized storms. Long skinny hulls, flaring bows to lift the boat by the nose. OWWWW ! That is bulging my midships. I am not made out of steel !
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In 57 to 61. The DLG's had decks splitting open in storms. The steeles from WW II had stretched skin over the frames but no splits.

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