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Old 06-18-2011, 09:06 AM
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I am trying to find pictures, or schematics of the fuel lines and locations of those lines hooking to the external fuel drums on a JS (IS)-2. I want to model them on the JS-2 i am building. Can any of my Russian tank experts help out?
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I am trying to find pictures, or schematics of the fuel lines and locations of those lines hooking to the external fuel drums on a JS (IS)-2. I want to model them on the JS-2 i am building. Can any of my Russian tank experts help out?

Im not an expert but maybe this?
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:17 AM
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not quite what i was looking for however these photos are very helpful for other details. What is the source for these pictures? thanks.
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[quote]ORIGINAL: kclank

I am trying to find pictures, or schematics of the fuel lines and locations of those lines hooking to the external fuel drums on a JS (IS)-2. I want to model them on the JS-2 i am building. Can any of my Russian tank experts help out?

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Wouldn't those lines be tucked away behind the gas tanks (out of sight) so that they wouldn't be damaged by gunfire or ripped off by tree branches or damaged buildings that they were crashing through? Or tripped over by troops hitching a ride? Were those gas tanks the quick disconnect types dumped by a cable in the tankers compartment?

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kclank........
Wouldn't those lines be tucked away behind the gas tanks (out of sight) so that they wouldn't be damaged by gunfire or ripped off by tree branches or damaged buildings that they were crashing through? Or tripped over by troops hitching a ride? Were those gas tanks the quick disconnect types dumped by a cable in the tankers compartment?


I am not sure. i "thought" i had seen some pics, in the past, of some kind of fuel line attachments running between the tanks and then into the tank hull. i would have assumed they were quick detach in case of a hit. perhaps what i saw was not for the is-2, not for russian tanks, not of this earth, etc. memory can be ahhh, ahhh, ahhh, well you know.
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kclank........
Wouldn't those lines be tucked away behind the gas tanks (out of sight) so that they wouldn't be damaged by gunfire or ripped off by tree branches or damaged buildings that they were crashing through? Or tripped over by troops hitching a ride? Were those gas tanks the quick disconnect types dumped by a cable in the tankers compartment?


I am not sure. i ''thought'' i had seen some pics, in the past, of some kind of fuel line attachments running between the tanks and then into the tank hull. i would have assumed they were quick detach in case of a hit. perhaps what i saw was not for the is-2, not for russian tanks, not of this earth, etc. memory can be ahhh, ahhh, ahhh, well you know.
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What is the source for these pictures? thanks.
Mikhail Bariatinskij "Tiazhielyj tank IS-2 - nasz otwiet Tigram " - Moskwa 2006.
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Kclank, let me know if you've found out anything. If push comes to shove, we've got a JS2 at the local museum, and VCO and I can go this weekend and photo what you need.
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Are you sure they were active fuel tanks, not just spare fuel that was transfered with a pump by the crew to fill the hull tanks? I just read that was how they were used with the T-34 in New Vanguard T-34/76 medium tank book.
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Are you sure they were active fuel tanks, not just spare fuel that was transfered with a pump by the crew to fill the hull tanks? I just read that was how they were used with the T-34 in New Vanguard T-34/76 medium tank book.

no i am not sure. just something in my feeble memories that made me think they were active/auxillary. you are perhaps correct.
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Kclank, let me know if you've found out anything. If push comes to shove, we've got a JS2 at the local museum, and VCO and I can go this weekend and photo what you need.
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Thanks for the offer but don't make a special trip because of me. i think yours is the earlier "bent nose" so i am not sure what else might be different. If you do happen to go i could use pics of misc. brackets and attachments of the hull for attaching boxes, cables, tools, clamps, etc. but i can wing it if i do not get up close and personal data. I could also use some info on the the 3 holes in the mantlet. One is a gun sight but what are the other two? I have looked at interior photos but have not figured it out yet. I do not think is was a machine gun. the 3 MGs are one in the front hull, right hand side, one on the turret roof, and one one the aft of the turret.


thanks again.
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2KClank,

i will be in Kubinka museum this Saturday, will check and upload the photo.

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thanks Hal
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ok, did u mean this?
and also... this is from IS-2(M) to be precise...

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HalHusker
where do you find these pics ...it is like you have these tanks all sitting in your garage...lol
great pics by the way
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Nice pictures! Man, was the casting on these beasts rough! Is that also battle damage just above the turret ring there along the casting mark?


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I guess so...
actualy the quality is not so good, a had only a portable camera... nexttime we will make pics much better quality...

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ORIGINAL: Airbrushler

HalHusker
where do you find these pics ...it is like you have these tanks all sitting in your garage...lol
great pics by the way
We have very good relations with Kubinka State Armory Museum...
we helpthem in supporting their events, they help us...
wehope that some day one of our eventswill be held inthis fantastic place... and the participants ofthe competition will have free admission to the tank collection... stay tuned...
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Hello HAL,

O.T -

If you have good relations with the staff of the Kubinka museum, there is a good opportunity to kill the rumor that says the russians took with them in 1945 the last survivor of the FCM 2C french heavy tanks (that was stored in Berlin) and kept it secretly in one of the hangars of the museum.

The story may be true (if this 2C wasn't already scrapped nor destroyed in 1945) but I am pretty sure it was cut in pieces shortly after WWII.
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JS2 Walk Around on prime portal

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/jan...dex.php?Page=1

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/ulrich_wrede/js2/

IS-2 Walk Around Page 1

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/car...dex.php?Page=1

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To H.H.; Actually i am building a 1944 ChKZ, but the pictures were very informative . thanks much.
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Thanks, had those pics but thanks for the input. i appreciate all constructive input.

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