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Old 01-26-2012, 02:17 PM
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Other names for this pine tree panzer is Gerat 554, and/or Flakpanzer 341 "Coelian".

That's a lot of names for something that never got past being a wooden mock up!

But it kinda caught my eye and since I had a 21st Century Panther that was just collecting dust, I thought it might be a quick conversion job, just for fun. I have no idea how well I will be able to match the camo paint on the lower part, if at all, but there is going to be a learning experience in that for sure. Maybe I'll paint it OD and put a few white stars on it to get even for the German Shermans and Panthers that were fixed up to look like an M10 tank destroyer. Hey...........turn about is always fair play in war.

In looking around the web for reference material, I ran across a jillion photos of plastic models of this "coulda been" AA platform, and there are a number of variations of this prototype in model form. This is my concept of how this Tankenstein would have looked if I had been in charge of the design team!

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Old 01-26-2012, 02:22 PM
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You never fail to impress, Rex. You just "whip together" stuff that would take me hours & hours of contemplation and drinking - before finally deciding that it's probably beyond my capabilities, anyway. Always a treat to see what comes off your drawing boards! -Mike
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Hey, cool! Scratch built too!

I'm building one for a 1/35th campaign. Yeah, I know ... 1/35 scale. I'm busy and involved in a little bit of everything.







I even bought some special snap-together-tracks for it. (I don't do or glue the link and length type at all)



But I have been eyeing this one for my RC world:



http://www.profiline-models.com/Flakpanzer-VColian.html

So ... what kind of paint you going with?











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You never fail to impress, Rex. You just ''whip together'' stuff that would take me hours & hours of contemplation and drinking - before finally deciding that it's probably beyond my capabilities, anyway. Always a treat to see what comes off your drawing boards! -Mike
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I was in the mood to do something that was kinda quick and easy, so I did a week of thinking and drinking (coffee) and researching before I started this. Finally I started this last Sunday while watching the football playoffs for the Super Bowl (I almost stabbed myself with my Xacto knife when the 49ers lost......Grrrrrrrrr).

Whip together my foot!......I finally finished this on Thursday..........this small flat sided box with two round tubes sticking out took me four days. I gotta quit watching the Military channel when I am building something, it's too distracting, I end up watching instead of building. I hope matching the factory paint fob works out. I would like to do a similar scheme on my Hetzer.



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As always, great work, Rex.

I'm in the middle of cutting thin strips of litho plate to make bed spring schurzen for one of my T-34s & the best I've done looks like a 3-year old's work compared to anything you've put up. Would you mind if I shipped a few unbuilt kits & some styrene your way?
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So ... what kind of paint you going with?

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By a stroke of pure luck, I found the three paint colors I need in my stash. The dry test strip I painted looks pretty close to what I need. I figure if I "adjust" the colors a little they will be a little closer. The green is Model Master "Marine Corps Green" enamel. The number is worn off, but it is still available. The brown is Tamiya Acrylic "Flat brown" XF 10. The light tan is Model Master "Sand" FS 33531 enamel, but I am not sure it is original factory color. I think I may have added something to it to change it a little. If I give it a light wash and Dullcote, It may all blend together.





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Old 01-27-2012, 04:25 AM
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As always, great work, Rex.

I'm in the middle of cutting thin strips of litho plate to make bed spring schurzen for one of my T-34s & the best I've done looks like a 3-year old's work compared to anything you've put up. Would you mind if I shipped a few unbuilt kits & some styrene your way?
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No problem......If you can figure out a way to ship me more hours in the day and days in the week as well. There are so many tank projects that interest me that I really can't make up my mind about what to do next. Every British tank that starts with a "C" is on my bucket list along with a Matilda and Valentine.
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Are you planning to convert that to RC?
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Are you planning to convert that to RC?
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No, but that's always a possibility if I decide to do that someday. Last year I R/C'd my 21st Century M48A3 Patton tank just to prove to myself that it could be done. I had to steal the motors and gears out of my HL Panzer III to do it. The cost of R/Cing everything I build is the problem for me, and I don't really like to cannibalize something to rig up something else.
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I have RC'd about 4 of the 1/18th Panthers. It's quite easy. the only issue is you will use the sprockets an tracks off a 1/16th Panther (you can't really tell the scale difference though. Turret traverse is quite easy as well. I would think gun elevation would not be a problem to jerry rig. It would be aweseome to see syncronize gun recoil and flash/cannon sound alternating between the two barrels.
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I have RC'd about 4 of the 1/18th Panthers. It's quite easy. the only issue is you will use the sprockets an tracks off a 1/16th Panther (you can't really tell the scale difference though. Turret traverse is quite easy as well. I would think gun elevation would not be a problem to jerry rig. It would be aweseome to see syncronize gun recoil and flash/cannon sound alternating between the two barrels.
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R/C, alternating recoil, flash, sound, traverse and elevation???? Thank you for your high opinion of my skills but nobody ever thought I was a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon before. I can walk and chew gum at the same time (on a good day) but that's about it. When I see what you guys on this forum do to upgrade your tanks with electronics and mechanical improvements, I feel like an imposter trying to pass myself off as an R/C model builder. However, I did start checking my stash of spare parts and I think I have enough stuff to do a simple R/C job with turret rotation. I just need to get some HL motor/tranny assemblies.



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Dam I love that thing!
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Dang! I thought I was the only one who had one in large scale..................Heng Long Panzer Forum???? Anybody seen this before?

http://www.razyboard.com/system/more...5772897-0.html
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I've been seriously thinking about getting the turret kit and building one of these.....
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Yeah, there's some pretty neat stuff going on there too. There's also a WECOHE turret kit for the Panther and a build exists somewhere on a forum as well.











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Yeah, there's some pretty neat stuff going on there too. There's also a WECOHE turret kit for the Panther and a build exists somewhere on a forum as well.

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Is this it?

http://www.customrcmodels.com/Tanks/...le_panther.htm

Or this one?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10307212








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look at this one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QX9R...eature=related

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look at this one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QX9R...eature=related

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Yikes! That settles it. Tomorrow I'm going to take mine out into the yard and burn it.
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Hey, cool! Scratch built too!

I'm building one for a 1/35th campaign.

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Have you seen this turret? It could possibly be an alternate conversion idea.











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Have you seen this turret? It could possibly be an alternate conversion idea.



Oh yeah as if my screen name hasn't given that secret away I am a big Panther tank fan/study and have seen a lot on the Panther. I'm not too crazy about this turret offering only because it looks like it would not work based on space and room available. And what about ammunition? I think the Coelian is stretching it too but it does look better.

I might build one more RC Panther tank but the rest will have to be shelf queens for I don't have the $$ for all of them, and there's the sound modules too. What would WWII flakpanzers guns sound like and where would I get them from?

And I still want to do a Whirblewind/Ostwind tank too. []

Well, can't wait to see yours finished! It looks great so far!










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Have you seen this turret? It could possibly be an alternate conversion idea.



Oh yeah as if my screen name hasn't given that secret away I am a big Panther tank fan/study and have seen a lot on the Panther. I'm not too crazy about this turret offering only because it looks like it would not work based on space and room available. And what about ammunition? I think the Coelian is stretching it too but it does look better.

I might build one more RC Panther tank but the rest will have to be shelf queens for I don't have the $$ for all of them, and there's the sound modules too. What would WWII flakpanzers guns sound like and where would I get them from?

And I still want to do a Whirblewind/Ostwind tank too. []

Well, can't wait to see yours finished! It looks great so far!

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I will post finished photos this afternoon. I am trying to correct the shade s of paint on my turret to better match the factoty paint job. I thought I mixed up pretty good shade matches last night (under flourescent light), but the sand color dried a shade or two lighter than the wet mix. I went outside into the daylight this morning and was horrified to see the difference there is between flourescent light and sunlight. Maybe I'll just repaint the whole darn thing an exciting shade of flat Panzer Grey.

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Not sure where I saw it at but there's at least one from here ... scratch built that is:

http://www.battletanksnederland.com/...sion&Itemid=10










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look at this one .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QX9R...eature=related

Jimmy

Oh my f___ing gawd!!!! If I cannot get my Coelian to do this I don't want it now! Great special effects man!!

One of the reasons I don't have an M16 ... sound effects suck. [:'(]











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I'm happy with this...... therefore........it must be finished! Now I can get back to the two WIP projects that I pushed aside to do this thing.

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Hope you don't mind but I saved your pictures. Very nicely done.











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