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Hi everybody,

and now something completely different....... or not????? Ähhhh!!!

Well, doesn´t matter.

What new project are we talking about?

Christian wanted to create a Tiger-I-Chassis that eliminates most of the known constructional mistakes of the HL-Chassis, with a kind like scale armor thickness.

So we started to create something. The measures are almost equal to the Aeromate-Chassis. It is not a rip-off. It is created to upgrade the old HL-Chassis. Well, you´ll see.

Just follow the report about the first prototype and form your own opinion. And, of course, you can write this opinion. I´ll be glad to read it.

Let us begin:

All mistakes which will appear while building this model will be eliminated in construction. So the production model should be without mistakes.

Let´s staaaaaaaart:

What´s that? Oh, it is a HL-Tiger. Let´s do some magic.

What are we going to use??

A lot of poly:::::::

Let´s start with these parts.

Here we rip off the first plate. Left side.

Next plate, lower front armor plate.

All parts need to be prepaired. Why? Well, all inner angles should be 90°. Because of using a 1mm chamfer, those angles have an arc diameter of 1mm. So there is a little bit of adaption to do.

Than all parts should fit perfect.

Don´t glue the parts together, yet. First all parts should fit.

Now the upper front plate.

As you can see, there are two prepared holes at the inside of the plate. If you want to use the HL-spare tracks at the front, you need to drill them through (2mm-drill). Otherwise you should leave them as they are. In this case, I want to use them. So drill it.

Now the second plate can be prepared.

Next Part: The back plate.

So far, so good. Rip off second plate (right side) and prepare for assembling.

Everything needs to be disassembled. Than you can assemble again with glue in the same order as before.

The small back plate follows next. Rip off, prepare and glue.

The next parts need to be prepared the same way. Rip off, prepare and glue.

One part left side, one part right side.

One part left side, one part right side.

On the next pictures you can see the actual thickness of the plates.

To be flexible with spring tension, you have the choice of three different mounting holes.

That´s for today. Report will continue.

Greetings

Birger

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The next steps are preparing and mounting the track covering. Same procedure, rip off,prepare and glue.

Now we will assemble the front, upper hull. This one is removable.

Well, here you have two possibilities. First Tiger with mud flaps (left part) or without (right part). I use the version with mud flaps. The other one doesn´t fit anyway. It is mirror inverted. Will be corrected.

Here come the side plates upper hull.

Here you see them assembled.

Till this step I need to say, all parts can only be chamfered on one face. That means either one side or the other. According to this fact, there will be now mitre at the cut edges.

As a result, most plates have a little gap to the next one. Also there won´t be chamfers on both faces. See next picture as an example. On one face you have an offset. There for the welding line to the front plate is missing. Second example, the chamfer at the top of the front plate is also missing.

Nobody is perfect. We realy try our best.

Report continues.

Greetings

Birger

sevoblast

Nice! Very well done!

Panther F

THIS, is very cool and if I didn't already have 2 Tiger I tanks...














~ Jeff

philipat

Don't know anything about Aeromate...so, I don't have an opinion on that.

But, this is awesome!  Are you doing the upper hull, too?  Turret?  Proper placement of turret on upper hull?  Selling as a kit?

CCC2012

very nice...

HAL_HUSKER

yoo-yoo!!
awesome, thanks for sharing...

beppel

@philipat

Hull yes, turret base with correct center, and hull plate with correct centerpoint. And yes, it will be a kit. The prototype is already finished. Christian is producing the pre-production one. Than I will write the construction manuel. After that, it will be availabeI as a kit. I will post the whole report. But I have to translate it first from geman to english. That takes a little time.

Greetings
Birger

harleridr

Great Photos and article, excellent workmenship. I have an HL pan tiger for parts , I guess the running gear will fit your hull? Is there a Panther G in the future?
Harle

mustclime

Very cool....note this is not just bolt on of hl suspension....note that the suspension arms swing forward on both sides....you will have to cut off the guide pins on the suspension arms and make some of your own on the other side of the arm for one side of the suspension. I had the same problem with the e100 that i got from him.

beppel

Well, not a G, but christian is working on a Panther A/D.

But if this projekt has much positiv response, who knows, which chassis will come next.

Greetings
Birger

beppel

@mustclime

Sorry, but I don´t exactly understand what you mean.

Greetings
Birger

Green Amphibian

On the real tanks the suspension did not mirror each other. one side moved forward and up while the other side moved backwards and up. So I was led to believe anyway.

Herman

rivetcounter

Hallo Birger,

Ich habe Interesse an dem A-Modell Panther, von dem Monat produzieren Sie

Grüße

mustclime

No the heng long swing arms, the guide pins are not centered....on my e100 I found that the drivers side was a bolt on but on the hull gunners side, the guide pin had to be moved...



I just cut them offand replaced them with some screws...





but on the e100, all of the arms were pointing foward....

MAUS45

Hi Birger,

I am interested in the Panther A lower hull as well.

Regards,

Rudy

mustclime

Just contact chris....here are the shots of the panther hull........

http://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forum...p?f=23&t=10397

beppel

@mustclime

Thanks for the Panther-link.

By the way, the Tiger I swing arms are different to the ones you have. So don´t worry.

The problem with mirror the arms results of the fakt, the space between the Drive Sprocket and the hull is not big enough. The arm would not fit between. So I had to leave it like it was. And, I wanted to use most of the HL parts. If I don´t mirror the arms, you need a second set of springs.

Greeting
Birger

beppel

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During this report you´ll see different accessories, which either are necessary oroptional.

This one is a must have. Because we need the sockets and the screws. Why? See the pictures.

And the next parts.

Now we assemble the additional armor for the transmission.

Next part, the ground plate for the gearboxes. There should be four of those spacers. I just found two. Two are missing. So I have to make two of my own. Will be corrected.

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Will be fixed later.

Now the lower hull is almost finished. Lets switch to the HL-Tiger.

Change the spare tracks.

Additional transmission armor needs to be fixed. This one is under construction and will be part of the kit.

Change the shackles..

And now,change the chassis parts. Springs, arms and wheels. ****, the springholes are 2mm to small. Well,I make them bigger. Will be corrected.

After correction, springs, arms and wheels were fixed on the left side.

And now the track tensioner from Henntec. It is all prepared for using this one. It is amust have.

Report will be continued.

Greetings

Birger

beppel

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Now the gearboxes. You fix the ground plate with the four screws connecting the HL-hull to the chassis. The holes need to be copied to the plate. Than drill them with a 2mm drill. Now screw them.

Insert the gears and fix them. Than mount the drive sprocket.

Here the view with the upper front armor.

Now put theTiger on his tracks.

The next steps are a little work-intensive.

Lets handle the back plate first.

Remove all screwed parts and mount them to the new plate.

Rip off the two frames and glue them to the back plate.

Remove all glued parts and mount them to the back plate. They might need a little adjustment. Leave the lifting jack. That one we need later.

At last cut off the shown parts, adjust them and glue them to the back plate.

Now there is a small highlight. It is a functional jack bracket.

Rip off parts and adjust them.

Remove about 1mm from the middle of the big parts and about 1mm left and right from the small parts (as shown by the pictures). Adjust both parts and connect them with a 1mm axis.

Prepare the lifting jack as shown.

Connect jack to check.

Report will be continued.

Greetings

Birger

sollie

Holy. This is awsome. Thanks for sharing, and great build report. :-)

philipat

wow...awesome.  will it work with Asiatam's metal road wheels and swingarm's?  I like metal running gear.

How does the hull's stiffness compare to the metal lower hull?

beppel

Well, it will work with the basic swingarms you know from the ordinary models. The new system integrated in the metal chassis will not fit yet. This will be another part to construct. It is on the "plan".

The upper hull will not fit to the lower hull. This one is a complet new construction.

Greetings
Birger

beppel

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Now we will finish the bracket.

Last parts are these two mounting brackets.

After ripoff, an angle has to be cut as it is shown in the picture.

Then glue it.

At last the end plates.

Next parts are the fittings for the wrecking crane and the hitch.

The hitch needs a 3mm hole and a curve. See picture.

That´s it for the chassis. Lets do the upper hull next.

First the engine compartment. This has to be separated from the HL hull.

Than we have to seperate the front plate.

Everything else needs to be cut out and glued. See pictures.

Report will be continued.

Greetings

Birger

beppel

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Next step.

Seperate the hull for easier handling.

Rip off and mount the remaining brackets.

Now, again, you have the choice. You can use the roof for an early Tiger or the other one for a mid Tiger. I use the early one.

Next, we mount the back brace. You can glue it or not.

Now we need to cut off all parts from the HL-roof as shown in the next pictures. Adjust and glue them.

On top of the round part we glue the fan plate. The square one is for the log.

Now the kabel brackets. These ones need to be re constructed. Also the position needs to be changed. Will be corrected.

Now you have to adjust the engine compartment.

Report will be continued.

Greetings

Birger