Paints to match Taigen RTR's when replacing bits
#1
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Paints to match Taigen RTR's when replacing bits
I haven't found this elsewhere, and I don't need to replace anything yet. But if I was running a Taigen out of the box, and had to replace, say a drive wheel...up to multiple chassis bits at some point, I'd want to match the original tank color as best I could. So collecting a few cans of spray paint to blend in a new wheel might be a good idea. I recognize I can't get it exact, and a good way to go is to just custom paint the whole tank. I'm not skilled in this though, and I'm just trying to match a small new bit. So, any sources for (all metal versions) Soviet green T-34, Sherman 76 dark Olive drab/blk, Panzer III grey, and Tiger 1 Late Yel/brn? Spray can would be handiest. Thank you.
#2
Try testors model master spray cans for Panzer gray and Afrika mustard, and for the Sherman green the Tamiya green (maybe 66?) is a very good match. The Afrika mustard is a bit dark, so if it's small enough to look good brush painted I'd go with Testors dunkelgelb '43, but that's pretty much only available in acrylic anymore. The enamel is still out there, but very hard to find and expensive when you do. I saw one jar on ebay for $18, a bit too rich for me. But the acrylic is readily available for four or five bucks a jar.
#3
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Thanks Gary, I sourced the MM in Panzer gray and Afrika Mustard. Also the acrylic Dunkelgelb. Tamiya I see makes a bunch of greens, about five are dark or olive drabbish. No TS-66 listed though. TS-5,TS-61, TS-2, and TS-70 look close for Sherman 76 and maybe even T-34/85. A TS-28 looks almost same as TS-5. Amazingly, in my rubbish box I found a five year old can of TS-5, as well as TS-4 German gray and TS-6 flat black. Don't know if they're still good. If you or anyone can narrow that list further for both the Sherman and T-34 let me know, I'll save the $. Or maybe I just try the old TS-5 on some scrap since I have it.
That just leaves the brownish stripe camo on the late Tiger 1, which is carried thru to the wheels, anyone have a thought on that let me know. Thanks again, Gary and group.
That just leaves the brownish stripe camo on the late Tiger 1, which is carried thru to the wheels, anyone have a thought on that let me know. Thanks again, Gary and group.
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Thanks Gary, I sourced the MM in Panzer gray and Afrika Mustard. Also the acrylic Dunkelgelb. Tamiya I see makes a bunch of greens, about five are dark or olive drabbish. No TS-66 listed though. TS-5,TS-61, TS-2, and TS-70 look close for Sherman 76 and maybe even T-34/85. A TS-28 looks almost same as TS-5. Amazingly, in my rubbish box I found a five year old can of TS-5, as well as TS-4 German gray and TS-6 flat black. Don't know if they're still good. If you or anyone can narrow that list further for both the Sherman and T-34 let me know, I'll save the $. Or maybe I just try the old TS-5 on some scrap since I have it.
That just leaves the brownish stripe camo on the late Tiger 1, which is carried thru to the wheels, anyone have a thought on that let me know. Thanks again, Gary and group.
That just leaves the brownish stripe camo on the late Tiger 1, which is carried thru to the wheels, anyone have a thought on that let me know. Thanks again, Gary and group.
Last edited by BcuriousR; 10-02-2020 at 08:04 PM.
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TS 28 is a near perfect match for Heng Long Sherman. It is not close to TS 5. TS 5 is a dark green, I swapped airsoft Taigen turrets for unpainted IR turret years ago. I finally found good matches, but went through so many paints, I can't remember which ones finally worked. I'll look through my sample/test cards later. For the Taigen Sherman 76 I believe the closest match was the Krylon Camo green, then striped with flat black to match the hull. If I ever have to do it again, I'll just repaint the whole thing(s). It's better to make it yours, make it unique. Opinion: if parts were replaced in the field, the paint probably would not have been an exact match to the weathered parts on the existing vehicle. So a little mix and match with some weathering might look right at home.
On my monitor TS-28 and TS-5 look exactly alike, but that doesn't mean anything.
Using a mismatched color--> realism. Interesting idea. Begs the question do you slightly mismatch a lighter/faded green say...or make more obvious as in primer color, completely rusted wheel next to green ones, etc.
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Maybe these photos can help. The first photo is 4 colors over gray primer in direct sunlight. The Taigen 76 is matched pretty well by Krylon Camouflage Olive Flat; The 75mm is closest to Tamiya TS 2, (in my opinion). After Airbrushing matching black edges on the 75mm, the greens were very close. Drive it around in the dirt and dust and looks fine.
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That's very helpful. My eyes are telling me in picture the Krylon camo is about a match for Sherman 76 olive drab "green". I was thinking it was lighter than the turret in the pic, but I now think that is a trick of the textured surface and the black stripes nearby.
The TS-5 and TS-28 are indeed different.
The TS-5 and TS-28 are indeed different.
Last edited by H2Ohaze; 10-03-2020 at 12:41 PM.
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That's very helpful. My eyes are telling me in picture the Krylon camo is about a match for Sherman 76 olive drab "green". I was thinking it was lighter than the turret in the pic, but I now think that is a trick of the textured surface and the black stripes nearby.
The TS-5 and TS-28 are indeed different.
The TS-5 and TS-28 are indeed different.
#10
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I own a can of Krylon white primer. They make at least two different "COLORmaxx" gray primers one darker than the other. Very confusing. Do you remember what you used? Or maybe you had enough topcoats of the Camo Olive that it didn't make a lot of difference...
Edit: This primer would probably be good enough: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Krylon-51...01318/19289963
That almost clears up matching the Panzer III, Sherman 76, and the late Tiger 1 except possibly getting the brownish stripe color for the last. Anyone have any thoughts on the T-34 Soviet Green? Thanks for all of the help again.
Edit: This primer would probably be good enough: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Krylon-51...01318/19289963
That almost clears up matching the Panzer III, Sherman 76, and the late Tiger 1 except possibly getting the brownish stripe color for the last. Anyone have any thoughts on the T-34 Soviet Green? Thanks for all of the help again.
Last edited by H2Ohaze; 10-04-2020 at 04:12 PM.
#12
Tamiya or Mission Models has Panzer Gray. Tamiya has it in a spray can.
#14
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Tamiya doesn't list a Panzer Gray. A German Gray, yes...coincidentally, I already have it in my spares box from a few years ago, synthetic lacquer TS-4:
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/spray...4-german-gray/
Don't know if it matches. I think I remember from some thread that "German Gray" at least for uniforms has a touch green in it, but I don't remember anything properly these days The cap looks reasonably gray FWIW...
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/spray...4-german-gray/
Don't know if it matches. I think I remember from some thread that "German Gray" at least for uniforms has a touch green in it, but I don't remember anything properly these days The cap looks reasonably gray FWIW...
Last edited by H2Ohaze; 10-13-2020 at 08:06 AM.
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#16
Tamiya doesn't list a Panzer Gray. A German Gray, yes...coincidentally, I already have it in my spares box from a few years ago, synthetic lacquer TS-4:
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/spray...4-german-gray/
Don't know if it matches. I think I remember from some thread that "German Gray" at least for uniforms has a touch green in it, but I don't remember anything properly these days The cap looks reasonably gray FWIW...
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/spray...4-german-gray/
Don't know if it matches. I think I remember from some thread that "German Gray" at least for uniforms has a touch green in it, but I don't remember anything properly these days The cap looks reasonably gray FWIW...
#17
The Tamiya XF 61 Dark Green is a pretty good match to the Taigen Sherman all metal edition. It is not a great metameric match under fluorescent light and it is ok under incandescent but is a great match under daylight. I tried a bunch of colors before finally asking the shop owner if I could take some bottles outside to check color. I needed it to paint the steel (resin) plates I'm attaching on the side of the hull.
#18
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The Tamiya XF 61 Dark Green is a pretty good match to the Taigen Sherman all metal edition. It is not a great metameric match under fluorescent light and it is ok under incandescent but is a great match under daylight. I tried a bunch of colors before finally asking the shop owner if I could take some bottles outside to check color. I needed it to paint the steel (resin) plates I'm attaching on the side of the hull.
#19
I brushed some out without primer on the bottom of the tank to check the color and it looked good in sunlight. After confirming the color I used Tamiya gray enamel primer and topcoated with the XF61 on some parts and had the same results.
#21
I just added a few bottles of paint to the site just in case you guys were looking. It isn't all of the colors but I did get some of the more popular colors they use. I'll get more in the future if you guys need. Also I know the two greys are very close in the picture, I got another up close to show the difference.
#22
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Thanks Erik. Nice to have those available. They are under paint brush category. I'm guessing that "dark green" is the Sherman 76, the "green" is the T-34, possibly the Sherman 75 (?), "brown" and "sand" would be for the Late Tiger 1 if mixed right, one of the grays for the PIII...?
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Thanks Erik. Nice to have those available. They are under paint brush category. I'm guessing that "dark green" is the Sherman 76, the "green" is the T-34, possibly the Sherman 75 (?), "brown" and "sand" would be for the Late Tiger 1 if mixed right, one of the grays for the PIII...?