Tamyia M51 Super Sherman the right way, with a cast hull
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05-01-2021, 02:27 PM
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Watching with interest. You be the Sherman master, Rich. 
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05-04-2021, 08:14 PM
#8
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Flat head 256 counter sunk screws to hold the henglong rings to the turrets.
Notice no Henglong Sherman tanks were harmed in the making of these turrets.
Oh who am I kidding you guys know I killed two tanks salvaging parts in the last few days.
Notice no Henglong Sherman tanks were harmed in the making of these turrets.
Oh who am I kidding you guys know I killed two tanks salvaging parts in the last few days.
05-05-2021, 09:29 AM
#12
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Yes, and no. There were basically two patterns of configuration, thought to be from one depot or the other depot, not a linear time line of progression. And a progression of 3 engine decks and exhaust as improvements of venting were improved,
One configuration had one tool box on each side and track block storage in front of it the same as M50 tanks. Say depot A
The other had two tool boxes on each side and track block stowage on the turret. Say depot B
Also, some m51 Cast hulls were cut at the back rear and spread apart and welded back at an angle with filler gussets to make more room for the radiators, but not all, and it was a mix of both configuration designs A and B, so one hypothesis I read was it fell onto the team doing the diesel install, it was really really tight, and if they felt it was easier to cut the rear hull off and weld it back at an angle they did it.
The best single source has been the Trackpad publishing book.
One configuration had one tool box on each side and track block storage in front of it the same as M50 tanks. Say depot A
The other had two tool boxes on each side and track block stowage on the turret. Say depot B
Also, some m51 Cast hulls were cut at the back rear and spread apart and welded back at an angle with filler gussets to make more room for the radiators, but not all, and it was a mix of both configuration designs A and B, so one hypothesis I read was it fell onto the team doing the diesel install, it was really really tight, and if they felt it was easier to cut the rear hull off and weld it back at an angle they did it.
The best single source has been the Trackpad publishing book.
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05-05-2021, 10:58 AM
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Yes, you could pick a “Period” photo and build to that example however the engine deck and exhaust may not be seen so this is where knowing what they looked like during each period. The three engine decks were a progression and were the same between the M50 and m51. They started with a plain engine deck with the two lids and an exhaust pipe on the left rear very similar in appearance to an M4a3 pipe, East coast armory makes these parts and others, including the boxed bottom engine pulley access doors that were used in all IDF tanks except an M4a4 (long hull) based M50.
The second engine deck had a set of louver grills cut and welded into it to allow better air flow over the engine. This happened some time mid 60s and was prevalent in the 67 and 73 wars.
The third engine deck removed the exhaust on the bottom rear of the hull and put a round blank plate bolted over it. The exhaust was direct out of the middle of the louver grills on top of the engine deck with a rectangular cast right angle duct.
this 3d deck started to appear right before the 73 war and very few m51s had it at that time.
However, nearly all IDF Sherman’s that were still in service post 73 received the upgrade so nearly all on display somewhere have it, though not all of them.
So to build one, pick a photo, and take a guess at the era you want it to represent and build the engine arrangement appropriately based on photos available.
I built a very accurate M50 with the early engine deck reflecting the 1967 war. Search my started threads and ye shall find it.
The second engine deck had a set of louver grills cut and welded into it to allow better air flow over the engine. This happened some time mid 60s and was prevalent in the 67 and 73 wars.
The third engine deck removed the exhaust on the bottom rear of the hull and put a round blank plate bolted over it. The exhaust was direct out of the middle of the louver grills on top of the engine deck with a rectangular cast right angle duct.
this 3d deck started to appear right before the 73 war and very few m51s had it at that time.
However, nearly all IDF Sherman’s that were still in service post 73 received the upgrade so nearly all on display somewhere have it, though not all of them.
So to build one, pick a photo, and take a guess at the era you want it to represent and build the engine arrangement appropriately based on photos available.
I built a very accurate M50 with the early engine deck reflecting the 1967 war. Search my started threads and ye shall find it.
05-07-2021, 06:21 AM
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The fraternal twins. You can tell which one came out first, it has tracks. I have most of the parts for the other chassis but Im waiting on some that are eventually inbound to complete the bogies rather than steal parts off another old push cap clutch drive sherman I have that is slated for another IDF project. Best I can do since I cant get any more tamiya shermans. Tamiya punked the RC tank hobby pretty bad by turning their back on us.
05-09-2021, 08:52 AM
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More of doing it the right way.
Tamiya in their slap a different turret on it and sell it attitude used the Howitzer loaders hatch on their M51 turret. The loaders hatch on a T23 turrret was the same as the Jumbo and the pershing. It was larger than that of the howitzer turret. Tamiya got that wrong so I am using oval hatches from Nicks Jumbo turret kit.
Tamiya in their slap a different turret on it and sell it attitude used the Howitzer loaders hatch on their M51 turret. The loaders hatch on a T23 turrret was the same as the Jumbo and the pershing. It was larger than that of the howitzer turret. Tamiya got that wrong so I am using oval hatches from Nicks Jumbo turret kit.
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05-10-2021, 06:38 AM
#19
Hi Rich,
Where di you get the turrets from?
Rudy
Where di you get the turrets from?
Rudy
05-10-2021, 10:55 AM
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05-10-2021, 01:14 PM
#21
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They are Tamiya turrets I got one in the whole kit and one in parts from aaf last year but they are all long gone now.
there’s no Tamiya Sherman parts left anywhere.
what I have will likely be it and complete my hvss build series I guess.
there’s no Tamiya Sherman parts left anywhere.
what I have will likely be it and complete my hvss build series I guess.
05-10-2021, 04:04 PM
#22
I got lucky then got my Tamiya M-51 turret from AAF last March you could still check with Natasha: [email protected] or
Karen: [email protected] and see if they got any now .
thanks
Jimmy
Karen: [email protected] and see if they got any now .
thanks
Jimmy
05-10-2021, 05:56 PM
#24
Thanks
Jimmy
