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Old 02-19-2023, 12:02 PM
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Default 1/6 Frank Wang Opel to RC

Just about ready for driving test for my Frank Wang 1/6 scale Opel truck conversion. Its been a fun project, but took a while to figure out the driveline. The axles are 1/8 scale from Veroma Modellbau (Germany) - but are nearly perfect fit for 1/6 Opel truck. The rear rims and tires are also from Veroma. The front rims are 3D resin printed and are reverse bead lock - bead lock is on rear of rim. Front tires are ones that come with truck.

The model was static and produced by Frank Wang (FB) in China - its all steel except load bed wood. Weight is about 15-20 lbs.

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Heavy duty truck rear axle, 3:1 reduction

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My 3D printed battery box goes under load bed and hides battery. The ESC will be under the cab, The steering servo will be up front with fake engine.

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More soon...
Bob

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That is beautifully made. Very nice job.

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Nice work, Bob! Always interested in seeing these converted.
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Thanks Jason and Chuck. Hope to have a driving video soon! Working on fake engine now which will include an ESS sound module, the receiver and steering servo. That's the last thing to make.
Thanks for looking!
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Very interesting conversion Bob. I like it. I asked Frank about those trucks; he says he has a few left. In your opinion
do you feel they're worth the almost USD1800 he wants for them? The build quality, what is your opinion?

Also in terms of the conversion was disassembly able to be done without major surgery?

I'm interested in getting one of these as I would want to make it functional also but I really don't want to have an extensive dissection in front of me to do it..

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It's a model that shows the speciality of 1/6 scale.👍
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hi Tanque (Jerry),
If you want a sturdy RC Opel truck then this is the quickest way to get there. The construction is generally good, but its intended to be static. Its all hand made, hand formed, spot welded steel. The frame is steel rectangular tube, so it is very strong. And it does require a lot of dissection - like removing all the non functional wheels and suspension and fake engine. It does give a good base for conversion. The Veroma axles and tires will set you back a lot as well. Not as expensive as an Armortek tank, but still expensive. I will have about $2500 -$2700 into this one when done. The other option is to build one from scratch - which IMO would take me even longer, as I make a CAD model first before cutting metal. Its not as nice as the Metalbox Opel detail wise -if you can find one those. I plan to make a second one into the halftrack version, using Geisswerk brass tracks. I'll be using Alum cast wheels, and 3D printed parts throughout.

I pre-ordered both of mine and I think they were around $1500 USD each including fast FEDEX shipping. Having the truck base saved me some work - but designing and building the working suspension has been a major project. But enjoyable as I love scratch building (and I have a lathe, CNC mill, printers etc). I think it will make a nice model once detailed and repainted. So in my opinion yes worth it, but definitely not for the faint of heart (build wise).

All of the surgery to remove stuff can be done with a dremel and cut off discs.
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hi Tanque (Jerry),
If you want a sturdy RC Opel truck then this is the quickest way to get there. The construction is generally good, but its intended to be static. Its all hand made, hand formed, spot welded steel. The frame is steel rectangular tube, so it is very strong. And it does require a lot of dissection - like removing all the non functional wheels and suspension and fake engine. It does give a good base for conversion. The Veroma axles and tires will set you back a lot as well. Not as expensive as an Armortek tank, but still expensive. I will have about $2500 -$2700 into this one when done. The other option is to build one from scratch - which IMO would take me even longer, as I make a CAD model first before cutting metal. Its not as nice as the Metalbox Opel detail wise -if you can find one those. I plan to make a second one into the halftrack version, using Geisswerk brass tracks. I'll be using Alum cast wheels, and 3D printed parts throughout.

I pre-ordered both of mine and I think they were around $1500 USD each including fast FEDEX shipping. Having the truck base saved me some work - but designing and building the working suspension has been a major project. But enjoyable as I love scratch building (and I have a lathe, CNC mill, printers etc). I think it will make a nice model once detailed and repainted. So in my opinion yes worth it, but definitely not for the faint of heart (build wise).

All of the surgery to remove stuff can be done with a dremel and cut off discs.
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Thanks for the information Bob. I expected that it was some work to get it to where it is now so that's no surprise. As to Veroma parts
I've purchased things from them before so I also know they're pricey but great quality- you get what you pay for.

You must have been planning the conversion of the second truck to the tracked version for some while to have gotten tracks from Geisswerk! That will be another fascinating conversion....

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Yep started the Maultier a long time ago. I was planning to scratch build the entire truck. I bought the Giessworks tracks from Martin a long time ago (~2011ish). A friend in Romania made the cast alum bogeys and rubber tires. Since I always have 10 projects going at once, it was going to take 10 years to make this. Fortunately Frank released the trucks last year.

The suspension units are 3D printed Nylon- which may or may not work for this heavy a model. I can always machine those in Alum if I have to. Having the truck base even with some surgery required saves a lot of time.

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I'm excited to finish the Maultier, but need to get the basic truck version finished first.
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That's looking really good Bob. I've always wanted a 1/6 scale Blitz, but that price is just a little out of my league. And I might have to make some changes to my list of people I'd like to be adopted by. Number one used to be Hugh Hefner, but then he died, so for the last couple years the number one spot has been taken by either Jerry or Master Sergeant Mike, but you're creeping up there Bob.
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Those track and suspension parts look absolutely stunning. What a cool and obscure project.

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3D printed fake engine to hide receiver, ESS Sound module (inside block) and mount steering servo. Lots of CAD time and printing, but cool to see it come together. Just the last 90% left to do.
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Till next time..
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Superbly drawn & executed, Bob! Brilliant work!!
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First driving test yesterday. Hope you like it.
Fake engine - 3D printed




Upside down - driveline


Some driving videos:

Till next time..
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That looks great, Bob, very impressive. What did you use for your sound system? Also, to get it to the point where it is right this minute, how much money do you think you spent?

I should have this SAS Jeep finished pretty soon and then I can come and Chase your Blitz around the yard.
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Hi Gary, Thanks for looking. I estimate about $1350 in additional parts not including the truck. The Veroma stuff is pretty expensive. Also lots of CAD hours and 3D printing myself to adapt the Veroma axles to the body. The sound is simple ESS Dual sense module, which is inside the fake engine. These modules are pretty nice and easy to integrate into a car/truck and have pretty extensive sound library.

Grand total including truck was $2686.00, less battery. Expensive I suppose. But for perspective the Metalbox Opel truck when available was $1800-1900 and not RC. It is better detailed but this one doesn't look bad.

I will add more detail stuff, lights, driver and a new paint job.

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A little color and weathering added. Still not sure I like it yet. Working on the rear canvas cover. The mounts and hoops for the cover are not so great. The rear axle is still bright because its so pretty and I have to remove it completely to paint it.

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Lookin' great, Bob. You've made me just a bit green again, but I like it.

You know what she needs? A pair of lines of bullet holes from that time they ran into those lunatics in the jeep and they stitched 'em up with a twin Vickers!

This also really makes me want to start on the 1/6 M3 scoutcar, but I really need to get the type 82 finished first. But you do have me wanting a blitz even more, especially since I picked up the quad 2cm flak gun. That would look awesome in one of those, especially if you make the bed sides so they can fold down. So many projects, such a short lifespan, eh?
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He He Gary,
"A flak in back" would trump any Vickers" LOL! Was just thinking mine is cool and all - but it doesn't have any guns. How about a flak gun hidden under the tarp!

Twin Lewis guns would definitely wreck my paint job.

BTW the sides do fold down just like the real thing. They are hinged. Its a decently built and detailed model. Best of all - all steel. But its deceptively heavy - close to 30lbs!

I think the Blitz half-track will be even cooler. I'm hoping to get to that in my lifetime.
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A little fun with truck and Armortek E8 Sherman on trestle bridge I built from scrap. The bridge is 6 feet long, gives you a sense how big these models are! The garden gnomes love the bridge.

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Added some details - tie down points for cover, hoops for cover and new paint (different green) and some weathering. Nearing completion.

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