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12.8cm Sf. L/61 Pz.Sf.V Sturer Emil

Old 10-05-2023, 09:09 AM
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I have been getting a bit bored grinding through a fair few Soviet tanks which I like...but they get a bit "samey" after a while.

So I thought I would push the boat out and see if I could do something different for a change.

Ive always had a thing for Dicker Max but I have no idea how one would go about the suspension and it also has some nasty louvres so I plumped for the next best thing which is Sturer Emil.

I could go the easy route and just do one with the tarpaulin over the top but I decided I would see if I could do the open topped version.

This is going to be woefully slow as there is a whole lot of ridiculously fiddly bits and I am not even sure it can be done given the fact that the gun compartment penetrates deep down into the hull making suspension systems a bit cramped.

Either way, I bought the 1/35 Trumpeter kit and started measuring and multipling. I did not realise how small 1/32 kits are in real life.

I started on the swing arms and just made them from brass and bits of steel rod iinside bits of steel tube and whole lot of silver solder.





A lot of filing and grinding and I got there in the end. My plan is to use Panther road wheels ..... 100% not correct in terms of the "teeth" on the track but they actually do not look a million miles from the pictures I could find and they will fit some tracks I have.

Then I jumped in the deep end and started on the back end of the gun assembly. There is a lot to do on this and small bits but I roughed out the breech and some of the mount from lumps of aluminium and brass and steel and kind of stuck it all together. Lot more to do with this bit.



Cannot promise regular or speedy updates on this but as I get things I will post them.

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this is incredibly nice work!
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I'll watch this creation very close.

The Sturer Emil was one of my favorite German vehicles to build back when all I did was 1/35th scale.
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Gun looks fantastic. One small bit at a time. Excellent project.
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Looks great, it is an impressive machine.

Did you find my pictures from Kubinka:
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I thought I better show a sign of life on this build so here is a short, if not entirely interesting, update.

This model has a huge amount of surfaces and that meant a lot of measuring and laying out on sheet and then chain drilling, filing and hand fitting.



I also did some work on my motors...they just fit between the two suspension rails and I still need a mount for them.



Some of the bits were really annoying - such as the weird rack thing that th egun is going to sit on....this has at least twenty individual plates and putting it together was horrible.




Then the hull started to go together. There are so many angles and so many weird joins that it was a real hassle. But the skeleton of it is in place.






Looks horrific at th eminute but thats just the way of it....

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Coming along nicely. Let me know how those motors work for you. I've been waiting to get some I ordered in the mail for quite some time now. I have some custom tank projects they are slated for.
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The motors I took from some drills....but the gearboxes I got off alix and they really are handy. Easy to fit, come with a pinion, full set of drawings and cost very little. Have used them before and pretty happy. All steel gears exceptvthe pinion which is brass I think?

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Ive been quiet on this one but progress has been made…mostly on the interior bits.

Slowly but surely I was putting together all the features which involved work I had sorely underestimated.

Even those stupid wooden (brass) slats on the base board took literally weeks…filing each one to the right length ans angle. I managed to get hold of many of the things like grenades and MP40s in metal but a lot of stuff I had to make.

Those damned shells nearly killed me and they still dont look OK.

Everything needs fixing and smoothing out.

The hull looks like I dragged it from a swamp…the surface rust is winning the battle.

I still have to do a radio, the optics and so on. The gun mantlet needed more trigonometry than I remember learning at school…

All I can do is push on and look forward to getting paint on this…

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Wow, absolutely fantastic work. I don't think I'll ever have your skills, but you have given me inspiration to try and convert a 1/6 scale panzer 4 into a nashhorn. Can't wait to see video of your tank in action.
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Amazing work!
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Started roughing out the cannon today and its really puts everything in perspective....... its huge. And my measurements are correct.

Its in a total of four parts - the breech, the mantlet and its tube, the bit in front of that and then the barrel.

They are all held together with a length of M5 studding. This is necessary as the mantlet needs to be removeable to get the casemate off.

Lot of detailing and stuff to do but the cannon is in the home stretch...

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Briefest of updates as I see a glimpse of light at the end of the tunnel..... Had to make a move on the suspension racks so I did. Got as far as shown but then realized I was missing M2.5 bolts of a very specific length for the swing arms so I have to wait for those. Otherwise test fits of the road wheels showed no problems and every thing is swinging freely and not binding.

Mounting the motors meant I had to make some cuts in the mounts to accommodate the shaft rings that will hold the swing arms in place but that was OK. Also, the entire suspension system is just below the height of the crew platform which cuts the hull internal heights so I was glad about that as it was a stress moment.

As can be seen....I have started priming everything as I move towards final assemble. Mudguards are next, then it will be the drive shafts.

I tried to track down the Aber dimple plate for 1/16 but got one and realized I woul dneed four packs. They are hard to get and expensive so I am think there will not be any dimple plates. It would raise the cost of teh tank by 50% and thats a bit daft in my opinion.

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Today I fitted on my swing arms and connected up the springs to the racks. Had to tweak a few with sleeves on the spring retainers but thats why they were made that way.

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And then I test fitted the wheels which are after market as I have no way of dealing with wheels this big. For the first time ever I got a set of interveaved wheels that are not touching each other and where one is not higher than all the rest!
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Very cool - really coming along well!
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Those look like asiatam panther wheels. Is that even close?
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Originally Posted by Max-U52
Those look like asiatam panther wheels. Is that even close?
They look about right in general shape to my eyes. Diameter is within a millimeter based on measurements I took (assuming Trumpeter got it right).


Big dished wheels on the double rimmed and the bolts and stuff do not look too bad.

Th eidler and sprocket look similar to a Tiger.

The track on mine is double toothed and it shouldnt be.

But if the choice is between a steel 1:16 Sturer Emil with road wheels and a track that 99% of people wont know is not 100% correct and no tank at all...... then I will be happy with the Panter road wheels!

Unless someone knows of where I can get hold of metal 1:16 Sturer Emil wheels and tracks?

I had a look but they are not exactly growing on trees....

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I wasn't criticizing, I think it's ingenious to use those. And you're right, 99% of people will never know the difference.
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Decided I would start test fitting the whole thing as painting it with a little airbrush was really beginning to toast my flakes.

It seems to be OK but the inside surface of the front armour plate is butting up very tightly against the trunions/sponsons? of the gun and forcing it is going to break something.

So I have to shave a fraction of a millimeter off one or two of the edges on the lower hull near the back to ensure it all goes together as it should. Irritating after painting some of it but thats life.

The gun is also "back heavy"...it flops upwards. So there will either have to be an adjustment screw somewhere or, more likely, super glue somewhere to hold it level. Balancing it with weights or whatever is not going to work in this case.....

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This is probably as “assembled” as it has been and Im actually fairly satisified. Some fit and finish issues but nothing major I think.

The motors are working and for once, thanks to some very careful measurements 6 months ago, I do not need shaft collars to hold the drive shafts in place - the gear themselves does th heavy lifting and I dont have to worry about dropping grub screws…
Otherwise…some of the heavy rear end of the gun was offset by the long barrel and the balance issue does not seem so bad at the minute but I will deal with it with a spring or something as suggested.

Sprockets and idlers finally fitted.

Still some coats of paint to go on and some screws to be fitted. Not to mention the wheels.






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I think I'm in love! Seriously... it's coming along really nice.
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That looks outstanding! Very nice work!
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I am not the most prolific of posters but there comes a time in every tanks life where I cannot resist taking a photo.

And the first time it sits on its own two tracks is one of them.

When all the measurements were made months ago, all the holes drilled ages ago and all the time sunk in it… and then the tracks go on and I do not have to say Fu#¤%&/()()?**^^k it! because of some mistake I made at the very start…thats satisftying.

The road wheels, sprockets and tracks are not mine - I bought them aftermarket off Asiatam. As I cannot make the “dished” in curves on the wheels. But I like them very much.

Still need return roller hubcaps, an exhaust, adjustment of the muzzle brake and a few other things but I can really see th eend of the road at this point…









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Finished construction on this today. Some screws to be tightened, some to be loosened maybe.

It now goes on the shelf until I get enthused enough to kit it out for mobility. I have all the stuff already but need to clear another tank off the bench before I start messing around with soldering and wires and stuff.

This all took a bit longer than anticipated but at least its done now.
Thanks for folloiwng along and when I do get it to move, I will post a video or something.

Cheers

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Looks incredible - how much does that little beast weigh? Brilliant work.
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