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BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 08:10 AM

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Hello.
A few words about my work.
1. I did not want to make an exact copy.
2. I did not want to paint my tank up to the color of these tanks.
3. I just wanted to make a fairly recognizable Tank JS -2 to 16 scale.

Tank still not completely done. Although all external work (except the final paint rollers) is executed.

So - do not judge strictly. Though. I think this is the first JS-2 in the 16 scale in the World

Thank you

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 08:15 AM

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BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 08:37 AM

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Spitvalve

10-09-2010 08:48 AM

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Very impressive, that's a lot of hull modifications you've done. Looking great and an interesting subject.

Also interesting to see a guy in Russia using the same orange butane micro torch as a guy in Ontario, Canada! Looking forward to the next chapter,

Mike.

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 08:57 AM

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BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 09:03 AM

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BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 09:15 AM

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BiggTony

10-09-2010 09:38 AM

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Fantastic work! Love it man!

Panther G

10-09-2010 09:55 AM

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Really nice , but i'm still trying to figure out what you used for the upper hull kit parts. I don:t recognize any of it.

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 10:34 AM

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There have been three donors for this JS -2
1. The lower bath, rollers, sprockets - KV-1 from Heng Long
Bath was made less wide by 14 mm. Must be at 16 but at 16 did not work.

2. The upper part of the hull and turret with a gun - from Heng Long Pershing
3. Small things on the body - T - 34 and Pershing from Heng Long.

All donors - have already been dismantled before me. I bought them, or as dead, or I gave them a token money.

Neither fully alive Pershing at these operations are not affected.

Then I realized that would make the tower on the KV-85 and JS-2 and not using as a donor of the tower from Pershing.

pattoncommander

10-09-2010 10:44 AM

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Great job...lots of work but it will be worth the effort. You'll have a tank that everyone wants. Are you going to try to get that heavy track sag into the tank? Could place a couple rollers above the track (just on the inside) between the return rollers. This would force the track down at the "sag" points to give it that sloppy track look. It looks very nice...Waiting to see the finished product..

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 10:46 AM

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If you consider the fact that in this world are now working only Chinese factories, it is not surprising - and in Russia and in Canada the same gas torch

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 10:51 AM

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I understand you. But as I wrote above - I did not set and will not set a goal to make the tank closely matches the prototype. I'm not so much like to be in the details that would have to spend even a lot of time on such details. Although they are very well decorated model.
While plans to finish - airsoft gun barrel with recoil and flash LED
And if I can learn to cast tracks of zinc alloys - I do metall tracks and sprocket.

Rex Ross

10-09-2010 11:10 AM

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[quote]ORIGINAL: BlackCat_2
Hello.
A few words about my work.
I did not want to make an exact copy.
I did not want to paint my tank up to the color of these tanks.
I just wanted to make a fairly recognizable Tank JS -2 to 16 scale.

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I think about scratchbuilding the same way you do. I just want to have fun building tanks that will end up on my shelf.......not in a glass case in a museum. Actually, I don't have the skill to build museum quality models...............that's why I do it just for fun.

I like your model, it looks really good to me. I was thinking about doing a JS-2 myself. I hope mine comes out as good as yours did. I may get around to that project some day.

Rex

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 11:41 AM

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In principle there is nothing daunting. In my work I used as a reference model 35 scale. Next - a lot of body parts can be done using auto fillers. To her superb stick plastic parts. And it is perfectly formed and then processed sandpaper. The only problem - it's the dust from the fillers. All processing must be done under running water.

As a basis I used the chassis of the KV-1 from Heng Long.
It is only necessary
1. Reduce the width of the tub. This is done by cutting off the vertical walls on both sides and stitching on 6 - 7 mm plastic. Then the vertical wall with a roller stick back.
2. It is necessary to move the upper rollers just below and to place them slightly above the other wheels. Like the 35 scale model.
3. You can then paste the desired angle rear bottom plate of the housing.
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sevoblast

10-09-2010 12:18 PM

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Very well done model. I am impressed. Have you been to Kubinka to see the real one? I would think so. And I also have the same gas torch here in Sevastopol, actually got it from an officer in the Flot serving on the Mockba in harbor. And have you been in contact with Hal Husker? He's in Mockba, and there is a growing number of tankers in Mockba.

Now, what a lot of you western tankers don't understand is, even though Mockba (Moskau) is a huge city, hobby shops with scratch building supplies are few and far between. Better than here, but still....for BlackCat to do this model with the available supplies he has access to says worlds about his skills.

pattoncommander

10-09-2010 12:35 PM

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Have to agree 150%. Amazing job and it looks superb. Wonder how many offers he will get to sell it..:eek:

YHR	10-09-2010 01:02 PM

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Looks pretty good to me. Seeing this tank , makes me wish one of the major manufacturers would offer this. Very nice job Black cat. Thanks for sharing

Dan

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 02:09 PM

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little about the tower, airsoft cannon, the barrel and muzzle flashes

In a muzzle brake - 6 super bright LEDs
Two wires lie under the paint of barrel
Barrel with a muzzle brake can move freely in aluminum barrel of 6 mm airsoft cannon.
Barrel with a muzzle brake clings to two latches to device recoil of the barrel.
Micro servo does move the barrel with a muzzle brake through the cravings of the cord.
Normal servo - raises and lowers the cannon barrel.

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 02:11 PM

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The gap between the top of the tower and the bottom is visible because it is not screwed in six screws, fastening tower

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 02:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: YHR

Seeing this tank , makes me wish one of the major manufacturers would offer this. Very nice job Black cat. Thanks for sharing

Dan

Producers are looking at models widely known brand tanks. 
Aware of the models of tanks, which are widely mentioned in the memoirs and books published in countries
produce tanks.

But after 1953 the name of Stalin in our country has been poured mud and slander. And all that bore the name of Stalin, or was connected with it - was in the USSR under the tacit interdiction. And still our leaders throw mud at the memory and the name of Stalin.

Therefore, we in Russia are well aware tank of Victory T-34
T-34 has very good and not very well-deserved publicity.
But not even guess that this Victory tank was just a tank JS-2

And how do producers outside Russia know about the JS-2?

BlackCat_2

10-09-2010 02:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: pattoncommander

Wonder how many offers he will get to sell it..:eek:

I can not even think about it. Many solutions and ideas embedded in this tank. And how to evaluate this work, these thoughts?
How to sell your child?

Plastic scouser

10-09-2010 04:29 PM

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Nice work blackcat [sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif] I am waiting for Chris to release his js-2 http://www.rc-panzerketten-forum.com...5ad85baa68a6c6

Cheers Ian

YHR	10-09-2010 05:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: Plastic scouser

Nice work blackcat [sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif] I am waiting for Chris to release his js-2 http://www.rc-panzerketten-forum.com...5ad85baa68a6c6

Cheers Ian

Are these Laser cut tanks available anywhere,?

Panther G

10-09-2010 05:33 PM

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Yeah an IS2 or JS 2 if you like would be a major seller around here i would jump on one as soon as it came out. I thought some of that upper looked like some Pershing parts but wasn''t sure. good thing you had a lot of donor tanks around. LOL

Detroit Diesel Man

10-09-2010 06:10 PM

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Incredible work....hats off to you! Out of curiosity..other than design work and research what kind of time does a project like that take? Definetely inspirational..Thanks for sharing!

DDM

kclank

10-09-2010 07:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: BlackCat_2

Hello.
A few words about my work.
I did not want to make an exact copy
I did not want to paint my tank up to the color of these tanks.
I just wanted to make a fairly recognizable Tank JS -2 to 16 scale.
Tank still not completely done. Although all external work (except the final paint rollers) is executed.
So - do not judge strictly. I think this is the first JS-2 in the 16 scale in the World

Thank you

sorry there are a couple others but your work is great

BlackCat_2

10-10-2010 03:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Plastic scouser

Nice work blackcat [sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif] I am waiting for Chris to release his js-2 http://www.rc-panzerketten-forum.com...5ad85baa68a6c6

Cheers Ian

What can I say.
Exquisite work. Modern technology. Hence - the exact authenticity of the model.
I envy the author of the model and its capabilities in the technology of laser cutting.
But - history repeats itself - high technology -Tigers in 1943 and clumsy technology with our Russian T-34.
The author writes in the title topic "JS-2 Modell 44.
I looked through many books and photographs about the history of the appearance of JS-1 and JS-2. Nevertheless, something I could and miss. And I do not know exactly - what is the Model 44.
In its work, the author (as well as I do) use ready-made industrial parts manufactured tanks. This transmission parts.

Catches the eye - the first front wheel-roller - this is the first front wheel-roller of the KV-1. I have known for photographs and drawings - ALL wheel-roller in the JS-2 - are identical. And if the author would use the same wheel-roller - it would automatically did the right thing to track tensioning device of the tank. And in this case it also has the front roller from the KV-1 and track tensioning device of the tank from the KV-1.
Next - a leading star (rear sprocket) - just from the KV-1 with 16 teeth. JS-1 fnd JS-2 had a smaller diameter leading star (rear sprocket) with 14 teeth.
A large front wheel and larger rear sprocket will automatically require a greater height baths and other provision of the upper support rollers.
I thought it all over when he began his tank.
I do not know what the JS-2 Project 44, but in this model the chassis of the tank - from the KV-1. As I suppouse.

And it is very interesting, on what technology the author will make a tower of JS-2. Simple flat pieces of it are not cut.
I also might add that the tower of the KV-85, which is sold in KIT KV-1 to KV-85 - not quite identical with the tower JS-2 in some parts.

Nevertheless - in body parts - this model is several orders greater than my hack.

BlackCat_2

10-10-2010 03:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: BlackCat_2

Hello.

Thank you

sorry there are a couple others but your work is great

Well, I also wrote - "think" and not "just know" or "confident."
But certainly in Moscow, this JS-2 - just only one.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...wink_smile.gif

karel47

10-10-2010 07:24 AM

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splended scratch build of your JS2 very good done, very good in scale to
you are a very talented modeller congrats

kclank

10-10-2010 10:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: BlackCat_2

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ORIGINAL: kclank

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ORIGINAL: BlackCat_2

Hello.

Thank you

sorry there are a couple others but your work is great

Well, I also wrote - ''think'' and not ''just know'' or ''confident.''
But certainly in Moscow, this JS-2 - just only one.[img][/img]

Hey yours is great and it is fun to be the first in your area to have one. good job

YHR	10-10-2010 02:50 PM

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Your tank is something to be proud of. An Artist rendition. Laser cutters and plastic injection may be more precise, but working with your hands, and shaping things like you have is special.

BlackCat_2

10-11-2010 11:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Detroit Diesel Man

Out of curiosity..other than design work and research what kind of time does a project like that take?
DDM

Thank you. I apologize for the late reply. Due to my not very good English is not understood at once that there is a question.

Began to think about this tank somewhere in December 2009. I bought a Models JS-2, KV-85, KV-1 and SU-152 on the scale 35 and KV-1 chassis and the KV-1 in the scale of 16. I twisted in my hands they looked at them and thought - how.

I started to cut a bath KV-1 make it necessary to 16 scale width. KV-1 tank is wider than the JS-2

And after the new year 2010 began to think - from what to do upper body.

Basically, all the work (with towers) were completed in May. Wanted to meet a May 9 - Victory Day Soviet Union. But no sooner had an electrician and radio control tank.

In July, there have been unpleasant family events. Which stretched the whole summer. So - only now returning to this tank.

wsn123

10-11-2010 03:25 PM

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Great tank !!! impresive work !
congratulations

candycab

10-11-2010 08:52 PM

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Awesome skills man. YHR hit the nail on the head :) Pretty much anyone can program a Water Jet/ Laser Cutter etc but to see it in your mind then create it with your hands really is a special talent. I'm a bit envious myself :)

rva1945

10-24-2010 09:29 PM

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"...we in Russia..."

Nice to find a modeler from Russia. I always liked German Panzers but I am in the process of converting a 1/25 T-34/85 to RC ([link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10091461/tm.htm[/link]), I'm in the final stages.

But it's hard to find pictures of the same soviet WWII tank (mostly T-34/85) in a given period of time. Could you give me any help?

Thanks
Robert

BlackCat_2

10-25-2010 07:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: rva1945

"...we in Russia..."

Nice to find a modeler from Russia. I always liked German Panzers but I am in the process of converting a 1/25 T-34/85 to RC ([link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10091461/tm.htm[/link]), I'm in the final stages.

But it's hard to find pictures of the same soviet WWII tank (mostly T-34/85) in a given period of time. Could you give me any help?

Thanks
Robert

Yes, of course, I can help you.
I have books on the history of KV tanks, JS , self-propelled guns SU and ISU, a bit of T-34. In these books (with photos), there is one in the English text.
Books, mostly, eat in PDF.
I can send you them by mail to the e-mail. And I can put them on file sharing and provide the forum for links to these files. What would be more correct?

rva1945

10-25-2010 07:55 AM

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спасибо

As for the emails, they should be less than 10MB; otherwise please put them in a file sharing site and give me the links.

I'm intrested in T-34/85 tanks that were in Berlin in 1945, during the Last Battle.

Regards
Robert

BlackCat_2

10-25-2010 04:22 PM

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I looked carefully, unfortunately I do not have much information about the T-34.
But something is
Here is a link not only about the T-34 - http://panzerw.narod.ru/st.html
not so much technically, but with pictures
Now even give links to files, but without the English text. unfortunately
http://files.mail.ru/COE2XD

rva1945

10-25-2010 05:31 PM

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Thanks man, I'll try to underestand the info or at least use the photos.

Regards
Robert

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