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Panzerjaeger66 03-20-2020 08:44 AM

Panzer II – fundament of the German Panzerwaffe
 
A new model kit to present...

what do you think about this? :cool:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...db1a42e1d6.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...34543b32a2.jpg
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...af625c1bae.jpg

Because the weather was fine my Panzer II Ausf C made his first moves ;).


For the one who is interested in this kit, it is available here:

Panzer 2

Cheers,
Freddy

pitstain 03-20-2020 09:08 AM

Very cool

MAUS45 03-20-2020 04:57 PM

Wow, Nice Panzer II C!!! Will there be an F model?

Panzerjaeger66 03-21-2020 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by MAUS45 (Post 12590899)
Wow, Nice Panzer II C!!! Will there be an F model?

sure, if there is enough interest for the F type.

So here's the question to everybody:
Will there be more interest for an F type model kit of the Panzer II?

Markocaster 03-21-2020 08:55 PM

That looks great. Love the panzer II

RC_BobM 03-22-2020 10:13 AM

Beautiful model - excellent!
Bob

borealis 03-22-2020 11:41 AM

Just read the instructions, it's very well engineered with working metal sheet suspension available in 3 different stiffnesses. Track tensioner, Metal custom gearbox. Turret rotation gear ring.
Detail parts are 3d printed.
The price is good I am tempted.

MAUS45 03-22-2020 01:11 PM

I would like an F Model PZ II for sure!!!

herrmill 03-23-2020 03:32 PM

Very nice to see! Now if only someone would consider 1/10 scale.

Panzerjaeger66 03-27-2020 01:38 PM

After applying the standard grey color „Wehrmachtsgrau“ the tank got markings of the platoon leader of the 3rd platoon in the 4th company of the 35th tank regiment, that was incorporated in the 4th tank division, fighting with Heeresgruppe B in the western campaign France, May 1940.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...07ae6116de.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...d8cf51c693.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8aae640a53.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...d7b55484a3.jpg

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Markocaster 03-27-2020 04:09 PM

Very well done. All around a great looking Panzer II

Lotuswins 06-23-2020 10:14 PM

It really looks great!! So much so, I've ordered and rec'd the kit, though the shipper apparently couldn't live with out some of the parts so Christian is sending more over....which should get here sometime this year....

So I'm curious what choice of gearbox? the one that Christian has built? or something else? And the inner workings of the turret? can you give a glimpse of what lies within your build??

Last one: How did you get the anti-slip texture on the fenders?? Mine is just plain styrene sheet.

thanks, Jerry

Panzerjaeger66 06-24-2020 01:11 AM

Jerry, the kit is designed for using Chris' gear boxes; the HL or Mato gear boxes are to large for the available space.
The turret is empty, i.e. no servos for recoil or elevation, only LED's are used, but you can try to modify but it's very cramped inside.
For the fender texture I've applied a thin styrene sheet:
https://www.architekturbedarf.de/mod...2-fach-p_30-mm

Best regards,
Freddy

Lotuswins 06-24-2020 10:02 AM

Thank you Freddy,

I have some left over rc35.com gearboxes for a 38T, and a spare Tamiya one also that I'd used on the Panda 38T so I hope to be able to use either. The Tamiya is really quiet, but not too robust...

I'll have to duplicate the rc35.com Luchs turret innards then, I guess, though I don't know where to get the solenoid they used
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...e3517a7118.jpg

As for the anti skid plate, thanks for the link, unfortunately they don't ship to the states......drat!!

Mayhap I'll try and 3D print something in ABS since I haven't tried that filament as yet....

Thanks again, Jerry

MAUS45 06-24-2020 01:56 PM

Lotuswins, Plastruct has what you need. Here is the link.

https://www.plastruct.com/collection...s/91686-ps-154
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...8df59ea715.jpg

Crius 06-25-2020 05:06 AM

I bought some of that diamond plate for the M35 tank all their project and it's some really good stuff.

Lotuswins 06-25-2020 01:45 PM

Thanks Maus45 and Crius, I found some on line with that P/N....should be here soon!!

I also found a solenoid, after using 'electro magnet' instead of solenoid in the search engine. Amazon apparently has many listed (who knew?). BTW, the one 35rc.com uses is a 20x11x12mm sized one with a 12 ohm resistance coil. If anyone is interested....

Jerry

Strato50 02-06-2021 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Panzerjaeger66 (Post 12613558)
Jerry, the kit is designed for using Chris' gear boxes; the HL or Mato gear boxes are to large for the available space.
The turret is empty, i.e. no servos for recoil or elevation, only LED's are used, but you can try to modify but it's very cramped inside.
For the fender texture I've applied a thin styrene sheet:
https://www.architekturbedarf.de/mod...2-fach-p_30-mm

Best regards,
Freddy

I'm in the process of ordering this kit myself but putting together the hardware has been a pain so far... I've managed to find some bevel gears on eBay but I'm just hoping they're OK dimensionally.
eBay brass bevel gears

Trying to find those m1.2x10 hex-head bolts is nearly impossible, at least from anywhere that wants less than $30 to ship 10 grams worth of hardware!

Did you use the 3.8mm spring steel for suspension? Do you have any hints for alternative materials, since I also cannot find anything like that ;)

Panzerjaeger66 02-07-2021 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by Strato50 (Post 12661909)
I'm in the process of ordering this kit myself but putting together the hardware has been a pain so far... I've managed to find some bevel gears on eBay but I'm just hoping they're OK dimensionally.
eBay brass bevel gears

Trying to find those m1.2x10 hex-head bolts is nearly impossible, at least from anywhere that wants less than $30 to ship 10 grams worth of hardware!

Did you use the 3.8mm spring steel for suspension? Do you have any hints for alternative materials, since I also cannot find anything like that ;)

you´d be fine with these bevel gears, because the hole dia. fits and 15T/0.8 module matches almost exactly 16T/0.7 module.
If you don´t see a possiblity to use metric screws you can use ANSI instead; the smallest I know is size 0-80; it´s a little more than M1.2 but is also possible. For taping screws Ø2.2 you can use 2-56 taping screws.
I´ve choosed the 3.8mm spring steel strips because they were available in Germany, but any sheet of spring steel of this thickness would work; you have to cut it into strips.
For instance:
https://www.mcmaster.com/spring-temp...-steel-strips/

Strato50 02-13-2021 04:22 PM

Thanks for your help! I managed to get some thin stainless sheet steel, hopefully it's springy enough.. ;)

Christian is working on a kit for me, but in the meantime I've got my motors and gears; I'm getting excited to build!

Another thing I just noticed in the instructions are what look like brass inserts in the road wheels.. is that just brass tube? Would it be practical to use bearings there?


herrmill 02-13-2021 06:09 PM

Brass sleeves will suffice

Panzerjaeger66 02-14-2021 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Strato50 (Post 12663315)
Thanks for your help! I managed to get some thin stainless sheet steel, hopefully it's springy enough.. ;)

Christian is working on a kit for me, but in the meantime I've got my motors and gears; I'm getting excited to build!

Another thing I just noticed in the instructions are what look like brass inserts in the road wheels.. is that just brass tube? Would it be practical to use bearings there?

usually brass is good enough; all my tank suspensions are plastic on plastic or brass on plastic, never used bearings for road wheels, but if you want to use the tank intensely you can rework the holes for bearings.
Did you get the assembly manual from Chris?
Only for getting an idea: if the stainless steel sheets are too less flexible you may use spring wire instead.
I´ve tried that at another project:


Strato50 02-14-2021 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Panzerjaeger66 (Post 12663453)
usually brass is good enough; all my tank suspensions are plastic on plastic or brass on plastic, never used bearings for road wheels, but if you want to use the tank intensely you can rework the holes for bearings.
Did you get the assembly manual from Chris?
Only for getting an idea: if the stainless steel sheets are too less flexible you may use spring wire instead.
I´ve tried that at another project:

https://youtu.be/gGlEvcZ7RVU

Thanks!

Yes I've been going through the PDF manual online, it's fairly thorough but I only just noticed the road wheels & the brass tube weren't mentioned so I thought to ask here.

You're right about the stainless, it's too hard and not springy enough. I might experiment with wire or even plastic zip-ties once I get the kit in hand.

I have most of the hardware I think I'll need.. its a pain because we're still the ups and downs of Covid lockdowns over here and I can't just walk to the hobby shop ><

Now for some micro LEDs ...

Strato50 04-17-2021 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Panzerjaeger66 (Post 12663453)
usually brass is good enough; all my tank suspensions are plastic on plastic or brass on plastic, never used bearings for road wheels, but if you want to use the tank intensely you can rework the holes for bearings.
Did you get the assembly manual from Chris?
Only for getting an idea: if the stainless steel sheets are too less flexible you may use spring wire instead.
I´ve tried that at another project:

https://youtu.be/gGlEvcZ7RVU

I've got the kit now and I'd steadily building away! I like the quality and how well thought out the assembly is, this is a fun build. I'm using the styrene from the kit itself as suspension springs for now; a bit still but it'll work!

My only hiccup so far is the turret drive gear. None comes with this kit so I thought to use a Heng Long turret drive motor sprocket to drive the kit's turret ring. Nope, it's too large in diameter, and doesn't reach the gearbox shaft anyway (I'm using the same motor type as in your video)

...so where can I get a gear that will work here?


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Panzerjaeger66 04-18-2021 01:58 AM

I´m glad you have fun with the build :)
Your process is well and the idea of using styrene for spring leaf is good (I didn´t thought about)!

About the turret gear: the mounting for the gear motor, the big pinion you´ve got? That should be included in the kit.

The gear motor is available here:
Gear motor 6V 30rpm

The pinion you can get here.
pinion
because the shaft of the gear motor is 3mm, you have to reduce the bore (or maybe find one originally with bore 3mm?)

Here are two video of this model that may helps:


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