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Meller 02-05-2010 10:54 AM

3W MONO AMPLIFIER
 
I was thinking about putting this little mono amplifier in my Panzer III.
Is it possible to use the RX18 Smoke Unitpower output, to feed the amp?

thanks for the help

- Meller

borealis 02-05-2010 05:55 PM

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It is rated for 3W at 15V voltage, meaning that at 7.4V it won't probably be louder than the stock heng long sound.
Anyway, if you want to give it a try, hook it up at the battery directly and feed it with the FX out wire from the volume regulator connector, trying to keep the wires as short as possible to reduce motor interference.

Hail to the Vikings ;)

Meller 02-06-2010 05:09 AM

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Thanks <font size="2" color="#000000">Borealis, I´ll try that :)

- Meller</font>

Meller 03-01-2010 11:07 AM

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Hi again

So Ibought the little amplifire, wow what a differens! The sound is now crystal clear, and twice as loud as before. I also bought a new speaker, a little bigger than the standard HLspeaker. I used the smoke units power output on the RX18.

This is a great little upgrade, and a good way to get better and louder sound in your Heng Long tank!

Here are some pictures. As you can see the amp fits perfectly in the HLspeaker slot.


cheap tank 03-01-2010 12:13 PM

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If you are cheap like me you can get the amp and speaker by butchering pc speakers. I have built a few with them and used the amp but the low watt speaker is pretty loud all by its self. Most pc speakers only run 4 of 5 watts without spending mutch you can get a pair of them on ebay and i have hade good luck with them. I almost forgot you must make a box to get the sound out of it i make mine with cardboard and hot glue.

shenlonco 03-01-2010 01:22 PM

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I bought a 1 watt kit and it sounds loud but i am using it in my 1/24 tank...they do make 2watt kits for like 10 to 14 bucks .

shenlonco 03-01-2010 01:44 PM

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here are some they work on lower voltage also.
http://www.bakatronics.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=473
http://www.electronickits.com/kit/co...ampl/ck700.htm

shadowwolf65 03-01-2010 07:10 PM

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Meller</a><div style="margin-left: 80px;">Would it be possible to see a video or hear an audio sample of how your tank sounds with the amp installed.



thanks

shadowwolf</div>

shenlonco 03-01-2010 09:49 PM

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Hi this is not in a HL 1/16 tank but i put a 1 watt amp in my 1/24 FOV tank it sounds much better now .. Before you could not here the sound when running now you can clearly here the clanking and high pitch sounds that where hardly noticable at all.
Take a listen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5MUQsfU1Zg

BiggTony 03-01-2010 10:02 PM

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Nice, I ordered this 7watt amplifier.
http://electronickits.com/kit/comple...l/CANUK153.htm
Haven't hooked it up yet, so I'm not sure how well it'll do. But, if that 3 watt amplifier is doing you satisfaction, hopefully this will be great. It requires 12-16volts, but that's for moderate to max output. I'm currently researching for a diagram to increase the voltage output to the amp with transistors before the power input. Maybe I can get the 7.2v battery amplified to 10-12v without having to use a secondary battery for a stronger output. I'm no electronic engineer, but I know it can be done.

shadowwolf65 03-01-2010 10:44 PM

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Shenlonco


Thanks for the clip,your tank sounds way better with the amp installed.I liked how you could hear all the sounds a lot clearer.
Tank sounded leaner and meaner with that setup.

thanks

shadowwolf

borealis 03-02-2010 02:47 AM

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Meller, does the amplifier catch any interference when the motors are running?

Meller 03-02-2010 07:44 AM

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Hi again

@Borealis: No, I´m not getting any interference. But I am getting a higher sound from the "speed controller", you know that "Biiiib" sound, but only when I´m driving real slow.

@Shadowwolf65: Sorry, the mic on my camera can´t seem to get the sound right. Did try to film it, but the sound was to loud and you couldn´t hear the difference between the motor running and the machine gun [:'(]

I need to box the speaker in, there is not enough bas, at the moment. I tried to compar the HL with my VSTank (Tiger 1) - The VsTank was louder, but VSTank is way to loud if you ask me ;)


What you get is: Louder, clearer sound (And you can use the RX18 SM output to feed the amp :) )

- Meller</p>

Flyn Chris 03-02-2010 09:09 AM

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How do you control the volume level?

shenlonco 03-02-2010 09:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Flyn Chris

How do you control the volume level?
On a hen long tank this is how it should be done First get a mini AMP with adjustable gain ( Volume cntrol) with a HL tank you would solder the speaker wires into the amps INPUT connections make sure the HL tanks Volume is set all the way off.
Now when it's all hooked up and ready to go turn the amps volume up like 1/2 the way or so to start and then adjust the tanks volume so you hear the cleanest clearest sound coming out of the speaker.... You do not want to turn the tanks volume up very loud because a AMPS input signal should be low other wise if it's to loud the input signal the sound that comes out will be distorted and not clear... SO that said it's better to have the tanks volume low and use the amps volume to make it louder... again though you do not want to probably go past 3/4 vol on the amp or it will be distorted.
Hope this helps.

Meller 03-02-2010 09:47 AM

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I just use the standard HL volume knob :) 

shenlonco 03-02-2010 11:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: Meller

I just use the standard HL volume knob :)
Does your amp have a volume control?
If so you want the input signal low...like how it comes out of a home audio CD players out put jacks and you want to adjust the volume on the amp because if you have the amps volume set at full you will gain distortion and mybe a hum or loud hiss through the speaker.

Meller 03-02-2010 01:23 PM

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Hi Shenlonco, no there is no volume controle on the small amp [:o] 
I´m not getting any hums or loud hisses from the speaker´, this it a great little setup - I like it alot.
Would be nice, to get the speaker boxed in :D

 - Meller

shenlonco 03-02-2010 01:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: Meller

Hi Shenlonco, no there is no volume controle on the small amp [:o]
I´m not getting any hums or loud hisses from the speaker´, this it a great little setup - I like it alot.
Would be nice, to get the speaker boxed in :D

- Meller

O the ones i listed and used have the vol gain control on them.

Flyn Chris 03-02-2010 06:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: shenlonco



ORIGINAL: Flyn Chris

How do you control the volume level?
On a hen long tank this is how it should be done First get a mini AMP with adjustable gain ( Volume cntrol) with a HL tank you would solder the speaker wires into the amps INPUT connections make sure the HL tanks Volume is set all the way off.
Now when it's all hooked up and ready to go turn the amps volume up like 1/2 the way or so to start and then adjust the tanks volume so you hear the cleanest clearest sound coming out of the speaker.... You do not want to turn the tanks volume up very loud because a AMPS input signal should be low other wise if it's to loud the input signal the sound that comes out will be distorted and not clear... SO that said it's better to have the tanks volume low and use the amps volume to make it louder... again though you do not want to probably go past 3/4 vol on the amp or it will be distorted.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the detailed answer, that sounds relatively straight forward to do. Did you try the new Amp with HL speaker?

shenlonco 03-02-2010 07:32 PM

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Hi I did not use it with a HL speaker I used it with a VS speaker that is the same size as a hen long speaker but sounds better and is louder at the same volume... I just put a VS speaker in my bull dog inside the Hen long speaker box and it sounds better than the stock Hen long set up.

Flyn Chris 03-02-2010 07:35 PM

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Great, thanks again :D

Meller 03-04-2010 07:27 AM

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Ohhh man...
The speaker came loose, and I think it came in contact with the Power + - on the amp... No more sound :( 

I noticed that the RX18 is getting very hot, around  the SW and SM, when I plug in the amp - It wasn´t that hot before... If the amp
is broken, could that make the RX18 unit hot aound SW and SM (Very hot)?

Thanks for the help guys ;)

- Meller

P.s - Just ordered a new amp :D

BiggTony 03-04-2010 09:03 AM

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Hey Meller, I've done that before. Actually, just recently. I had to buy a new RX18 board to have sounds again.

Replacing the amp and replacing the big carbon coated 2-5 watt resistor didn't solve the issue. Had to remove the amp completely, because the amp gets so hot, that it began to warp the corner of the RX18 casing that the amp is directly under. I suspect it's one of the chip resistors adjacent to the amp. I found that it was becoming more trouble than it was worth to fix the board.....so I just sprung for a $22 dollar replacement.

I believe that amp getting that hot is a safety issue, so I removed the amp completely from the board and intend on using the RX18 board with an aftermarket sound module since the board still works.

shenlonco 03-04-2010 09:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Meller

Ohhh man...
The speaker came loose, and I think it came in contact with the Power + - on the amp... No more sound :(

I noticed that the RX18 is getting very hot, around the SW and SM, when I plug in the amp - It wasn´t that hot before... If the amp
is broken, could that make the RX18 unit hot aound SW and SM (Very hot)?

Thanks for the help guys ;)

- Meller

P.s - Just ordered a new amp :D
Yep amp was loud drawing to much power from the spot you hooked it up to.
You need to hook the amps + & - to the power directly to the power lead on the on and off switch on the tank and the other wire from the amp directly to the wire from the battery plug wire.

Also like i said before the amps with the volume control are best because you will have your HL amp turned down really low like you are hardly using it from the tanks board so it will stay cooler also.... then you turn up the amps volume and this way it will also sound clearer with less distortion...... this is coming from a Guy who always had high end home audio components.


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