colossus281

Is the stock pipe a losi ht ? And for racing would it be better to run the 053. Looking for a bit more on mid to high. And longer run times thanks

jmaxey51

053 should give you more run time. it will also smooth it out some too.

HerrSavage

The stock pipe is great for mid to high - especially with an OS A5/#10 plug.

I have heard people say try an 053, but when I tried one on my Mach 427(SH 26, very similar to the Losi, which is an SH 28) it was horrible - zero top-end..

For racing, a JP-4 is probably a good call for the Losi. Will tame it a bit, and save you run-time..

For all-out power though, the stock Losi pipe is very good. It's just underrated for big-block engines because people think you automatically have to go uprgrade everything on an RTR. Not so in the case of the Losi HT pipe..

colossus281

So the stock pipe is a ht? And is it worth the $20 to get a turbo plug conversion?

HerrSavage

Yes it's an HT pipe, and no I wouldn't bother with the turbo conversion. If you're racing, spend your money elsewhere - servos, tires, etc..

colossus281

Ok thanks

jmaxey51

IMHO it is worth the money! almost all engines at the track are turbo and i hear people getting more run time with it too.

053 is good for 28 because it is torque, tames it... JP-4 is good also.

HerrSavage

I think a lot of people though would say that a standard 28 is already too much torque, and so will just lead to unproductive wheel-spin. Even if the turbo-conversion really does make much difference(which I'm skeptical of.. But who knows?..), for a light-ish truggy like the 8T, that would just mean MORE wheel-spin right?..

IMO the 8T 2.0 RTR is a great buy. But the first thing I would buy would be servos - and good servos aren't cheap.. If you've got the 20 bucks to burn after servos, sure, go ahead and try it.. But I personally wouldn't put it very high on the priority list.. Racing entails all kinds of other expenses just to participate. A turbo-head is just an unnecessary option IMO..

And my thinking on pipes would be, the 28 has plenty of torque, so better get a pipe for top-end.. But why put a torque pipe on a torque engine(unless you're pulling or climbing..)? A .28 in truggy will have enough torque with most pipes..

Again, the best tip for top-end IMO is an OS A5 plug.

colossus281

Ya that's what i was thinking i think i will go for a top end pipe what would u run

HerrSavage

For all-out power on an LRP Spec 3/Losi 454, in my experience the best pipe is a JP-2. For racing, I would tone down the power in favor of run-time, and go with a JP-4. There are surely other good pipes. I would recommend something used on ebay. JP-4, JP-2, 2047, probably a Losi RE10, or just stick with the stock HT pipe. Again, with the RTR, it's all about SERVOS first and foremost...

jmaxey51

HT stands for High Torque...


the 053 will smooth out power. JP-4 will also... RE10 will do the opposite. ... the 086 is a top end pipe, might be your best bet. or if you want to spend about 85-90 bucks, the Alpha 2090 would be a good pipe to smooth out the power, and still make it stout.

but servos are a MUST for RTRs, so i agree with spending money there first.

colossus281

Where can I buy the Alpha 2090

HerrSavage

The Losi HT type, "high torque" or not, has more top end IMO than torque. Have them on two LST2's and have raced an HT (stock Muggy) pipe in buggy and a couple truggies, and they definitely let the engines wind out more on top than give them like stump-pulling torque or anything. With a Mach 427 and the HT pipe I was even getting 10 minutes in truggy.. Key to top end in these SH engines is an OS A5 plug too.

I realize now though that the performance of those engines was somewhat skewed because I was running a well-used Fioroni slider clutch - zero maintenance, which is great.., but I suspect it made things way too soft on the low end.. For bashing though, awesome clutch.. 10 gallons + with pretty much just changing the bearings every couple gallons..

To the OP, have you even run the stock engine and pipe yet? If not, I would say just try it and see how it goes.. Unless you're racing at a pretty high level, I really don't think investing in a pipe is gonna make a big difference. Again, servos and tires, servos and tires.. AND SETUP. And a good clutch is also very important..

The 2090 pipes here funnily enough are cheap.. Jmaxey, are they really that good? I want something for my Argus(Alpha S852 more or less..), and everybody says get the 0801 - but they're not available here.. The 2090 I can get locally for €60(most pipes cost €80+... I could get an 0801 from Austria I think, for €95.. Paid €110 shipped for the Argus.. Or, order from abroad, wait while it goes to Customs, etc..) They (the 2090) don't seem to have caught on much yet.. I also care much more about power than run-time.. So far I'm not too impressed with the JP-4 on it, or now the 2063 that I tested last weekend(though generally I love this pipe...)

jmaxey51

http://newgenerationdistribution.com...e-set-2090.htm

colossus281

Thanks I still need to get 1 more servo some better tires then i will probably get the pipe i will you guys know how it runs

jmaxey51

the 0801 is the best pipe for Alpha IMO (personal preference), but the 2081 and 2090 are good also. the 2090 is nice because of the changable stingers. in the Alpha A352 (.23) i was running the 2090 and was getting 9min 45 sec a tank pretty easily. ran it on other engines, but never timed them, just pitted at 8 or so min. havent tried one on the S852 yet because mine is getting old and just been running my other engines. the Argus is S852 with a heavy crank. so it feels like the F850 (red) engine. ... JP-4 is good but takes away somepower. never ran a 2063. ... the 2090 makes the power curve smooth, so not much wheel spin.