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Old 03-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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Chedster! Finally a nice day, im about to go pick up a gallon and try to get some driving in before the rain comes backs in a couple of days.
Old 03-21-2008, 02:31 PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GOT TO RUN THE ST-1 TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!! just put 1 tank thru it to tun it and the bearings are really smooth. i got the spur for the chaos to. going to go put a tank in that in a couple. im soooo happY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ya it snowed last night but melted this morning. Its pretty nice out like fifty degrees and Im done with school for a week!
Old 03-21-2008, 03:28 PM
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yea I have today and monday off. my hump pack died... and I think te diffs in my chaos are smoked.... well anyways heres a pic of the ST-1 with the new bearings and new orange fuel tubing.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:48 PM
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Ok, as you know im a big time newbie in this hobby and the instructions for the starter box are near non-existent. Here is a picture of the bottom of the chassis and the box, the instructions say that the right side in the picture is the front and the left side is the rear. But as you can see, there is pretty much nil chance of my flywheel lining up that way (its the silver one right), I would have to turn my truck backwards to get close. Is this ok, can the flywheel crank both ways? Also, whats my goal here? I put the brackets on the box, then align them with the pegs to get the truck to sit where? Should the pegs be just outside the chassis where it tapers in? Does the truck sit on top of the pegs?

Eric, you said you've used this box with yours, little help?

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Old 03-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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Pexeter, I can't help you. I'm actually ordering the same starter box, so I'll be curious to see the responses. Spinning the motor the wrong way would not work. It can only spin one way.


On a side note, I drove my truck around a little today, testing some changes. All I have to say is that drilling the piston holes should be done on every ST-1. In my opinion it's as important a mod as the Saxton ackerman mod. It is an AMAZING difference. The truck has almost no bounce now in rough stuff, it seems to float over the ground almost.

Here's what I did:

I replaced the front shock bodies with the S3 REAR shock bodies. They are now as long as the rear shock bodies on the truck, but a little cheaper than buying a set of truck ones. Someone also said that they have a coating in them to make them smoother. I'm not so sure about that. But anyways, use the stock front shock shafts and spring, it allows much more travel in the front. Even if you keep the stock front shock bodies, you should still do this mod, you just might have to use less preload.

Next I removed the pistons from all shocks, and drilled the holes out with a 1/16 inch bit. 1/16 = 1.6mm (stock is 1.4mm) There's a post about this in other boards with a 1/64 bit. I think that is a typo, as a 1/64 bit would be tiny.

I re-filled the shocks with 40 front, and 50 rear.

8mm preload in the front, 9mm preload in the rear.

Thats it. HUGE difference. I highly recommend this mod be done.


Also, I ran the tire combo I was talking about a few pages ago. Bowtie MT's in the back, and Bowtie MTR's in the front. Seems to work well. No noticeable unloading in the front, but a ton more rear traction. I'm running 5-10-3, and may switch to 20 center if I do see any issues, but I like it for now.
Old 03-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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Hey guys...I was wondering if someone could help me out.

I put the ST-1 pro.28 in a Savage and overall install wastight but successful!

The stock settings are roughly HSN 2 1/2 out, LSN roughly 6 1/2 out.

My hand is numb from starting/breaking it in. I have broken in motors before and this one seems to be a toughy.

Is there a roto start plate that will work? The 4.6 HPI backplate/pull start won't work correct?

Any tuning advice or help? I have alot of friends who know these backwards and forwards and their suggestions have been helpful but they were unsure of a rotostart plate for this motor.

Also, I am running an HPI 3 shoe clutch and overall things are prtty good. After the first tank of break-in despite having a tight slipper clutch I believe my clutch shoes are slipping after only a few minutes of running! Has anyone had trouble like this? I tightened everything down to spec when I assembled the motor/flywheel yesterday. I used loctite but I am afraid I may have to dissasemble the motor again to figure out the problm.

ThankS!
Old 03-21-2008, 04:30 PM
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@ Pexter, Turn the truck around and you will have much better luck!
Old 03-21-2008, 04:45 PM
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Mine bow, the same one will be here tuesday, let us know what you come up with, I hateing putting things like that togather.
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Hey guys I have abuch of this penumatic oil that I think would work really good in diffs, It is about like 40wt motor oil in thickness, what would that be comparable to in the silicone oils.
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go check out my OWb thread... i dont know....
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@ Pexter, Turn the truck around and you will have much better luck!
LOL I was going to say the same thing! Also you need to install the top pieces that attack to the metal rods coming out of the box and put the one on the front. Then you can align your pegs.

@Chris I would just use silicone oil its only $2 or $3 and its silicone so you always have the same viscosity.
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
check if the HPI backplate fits, won't hurt to try.

This is the rotostart backplate and drill. Can not find just the backplate.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5784
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Anyone?
yea there is a tiger drive that fits...
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yea I have today and monday off. my hump pack died... and I think te diffs in my chaos are smoked.... well anyways heres a pic of the ST-1 with the new bearings and new orange fuel tubing.
Seems like all the chaos breaks is diff cups. Check them if you find some rounded then just CA glue them. Lets see the pics of the new bearings
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YOU GUYS ROOOOOOOOOOCK!
Old 03-21-2008, 06:13 PM
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I somehow broke a center diff cup today. Anyone else had this problem?
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Does anyone know if the alluminum steering blocks for the E maxx or revo work on the front of the ST-1, they look like like they would be darn close, I am worried about the axles being diffrent sizes
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Yes, they do rock. But alas I still need some help. Ok, I got the mounts and post on, but im not sure what to adjust them to. As you can see this is as far as I got and the truck doesnt align with the rubber wheel. A couple of you laughed and said to turn the truck around (which as you can see i did) but the manual does say the big mount is the "Front mount" and the V shaped mount is the "Rear mount". But where should the pegs sit in the front? are they supposed to be on the outside of the chassis or holding it up like the picture? Are the rear mounts correct? Does anyone own one of these that could please take a picture of theirs setup?

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Hey everyone, I just broke my pull-start... figures on the only nice day in the last week and a half. I need to convert to bump start probably. since i want to race this summer and all. I saw some people looking at the above pictures starter box.. how does it work? I just need the cheapest bump box/battery/charger combo.
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Oldschool... try this [link]http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_25_177/products_id/5784[/link]

Edit : DOh, Eric got that already =P
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Alright that looks like it could work. What about a battery and charger? would just some cheap combo work?
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yea I have today and monday off. my hump pack died... and I think te diffs in my chaos are smoked.... well anyways heres a pic of the ST-1 with the new bearings and new orange fuel tubing.


Seems like all the chaos breaks is diff cups. Check them if you find some rounded then just CA glue them. Lets see the pics of the new bearings
what one do you think it is? center rear or front? I think its center b/c that one looked a little weird......

My OWB i found some JBweild so im doing that. ll tell ya how it works tomorrow. Well i fixed my cell phone! it went thru the washer machine.....
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Hey madmaxx if you need a bearing I will send you mine I don't think I will be needing it agin. It's the off the pro .28 less than a gallon on it.

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