Brushless CEN E-Matrix TR FRE
 

hey guys,
i FINALLY got it brushless!!!
here are the changes i made and some pics of the final build!

made another motor mount out of some TI-AL alloy for the added strength and rigitity.

Mamba Max ESC with Y harness

Feigao 8XL

motor heatsink made out of a computer heatsink

custom aluminum battery mount

i think thats it, if you see something you have a question about please ask as i may have forgot some things.
here are the pics:


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7...trix014zv8.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9...trix002ta7.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8...trix006rj3.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6623/ematrix010qd4.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3...trix012zv1.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5...trix020kg4.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3...trix021qj4.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9...trix025ku5.jpg

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/5...trix029jp0.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1...trix031nz3.jpg


please tell me what you think or the final build.
thanks,
Aaron

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Looks cool but I think it would be a little top heavy due to where the batteries are mounted.

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I am of the thought that brushless will displace nitro to a large degree over the next couple of years. Your ingenuity is to commended.
How does run? More bottom and top end?

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How well does it brake? Can you correct in the air over jumps? Also where did you get the pinion? What amps are the battery packs? What is the run time? A good brushless site is RC-Monster.com.. Is that the stock center diff? Again very impressive for a scratch built conversion.

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Yeah, I also think that it would act a bit top heavy due to the way the batteries are mounted. Maybe you should place them in a new place on the chassis?

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vnmsgt:
thanks, acually it isn't at all. being that its a truggy, it has a really wide track therefore it doesn't matter a whole lot. and it also handles GREAT even with the packs up there.

thopper:
it has massive braking power being that the motor is made for torque. i'm sure you could air correct, again because the brakes are so good.
the pinion is a Mod 1 pinion from RCMonster. as for top and bottom end, it has MASSIVE lowend. like huge torque. the batterys are normal 3300s donno the amperage on them.
yes that is the stock center diff. thanks :)

chrobar:
as i told vnmsgt, no there not too high. doesn't effect the handling at all. and no, i tryed and there really isn't another place to put them. atleast with even weight distribution.

thanks for the questions guys,
Aaron

RE: Brushless CEN Matrix TR FRE
 

NITRO IS BETTER

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sorry, i'm not going to start a debate on here. because i know how those things go, they turn into flame wars. and i dont want that.
if your going to come on to somebodys thread and bash the things he has in that thread. i dont see a need for you to post in this thread.

thanks guys, and i hope there are less of the people that bash it then the people that appreciate it.
Aaron

RE: Brushless CEN Matrix TR FRE
 

Nice. I like the motor mount. Simple, but it looks very stable. I too would have found a better place (on the chassis) for the batteries, but it works and you like it, so that's all that matters. I just finished an MBX5T and tested it yesterday. It works good too!

losi8tboy - Statements like that make you look...not smart.

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i think ya did good!:D i wonder if a lipo would fit where the tank was?

RE: Brushless CEN Matrix TR FRE
 

i would try a lipo or take the battery apart and re solder it to fit were the gas tank was

RE: Brushless CEN Matrix TR FRE
 

thanks guys, ya i was really thinking of putting a lipo or stack or batterys there. i just didn't want the battery (whatever it is) so slide into the spur and pinion. so that would mean i would have to put some kind of mount between the battery and gears.

that would be about the only place on the chassis to mount them. but it acually is working out quite well. :)

i really would like a lipo for it, its just not in the budget at the moment. :)

thanks for the comments guys,
Aaron

RE: Brushless CEN Matrix TR FRE
 

Hi, I love those heat sinks on the motor. Here is a picture of my CEN truggy conversion. I have the batteries sitting on the chassis, at first I used an old E-Maxx chassis and cut out the battery trays to make holders, then I made my own out of some fiberglass angles. I used a velcro strap to hold them down and it is very secure, the battery does not move (because of the tray) and does not fly out (because of the strap). Since your a Revo freak I also have a picture of my converted Revo. Great job on your conversion.


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...13/truggy1.jpg


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...k413/top-4.jpg

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very nice conversion man,
what motor is that in the CEN? ... wow you really switched a lot around on that chassis, looks like you moved the RX box to the other side and up front? and cut the brake servo mounts out? i was thinking of doing the same, however i was possibly wanting to use a brake servo for brakes, just because the brakes are really abrupt through the mamba.
again nice conversion.

BTW, i'm not a revo freak anymore. :P i was when i started but i dont like them anymore. :) however that is also a nice conversion.
thanks,
Aaron

RE: Brushless CEN E-Matrix TR FRE
 

thanks, to all the people that commented.
i would love to see some of your builds. :)

thanks,
Aaron

RE: Brushless CEN E-Matrix TR FRE
 

aww come on guys, BUMP?

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Here's a link (on another site) to my MBX5 build:
[link]http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81927[/link]
Pic of my MBX5t:
http://www.hitnget.com/ebay/ex5t_wobody.jpg

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wow, that is an amazing build. how do you like the lipo? is it a 4s? i am planning on going lipo soon also.
how does it run?

great build, thanks for sharing it. :)

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wow guys, thats awesome. almost makes me wann save up some loot for the convert. what is needed again? esc, motor, motor mount and batteries with holder? then theres chargers and dischargers... man i got a hyper 7 on its last nitro leg sitting here...hmmm.....:eek:

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Thanks!
This is an Enerland 4s 5000mah LiPo. The Enerland cells are awesome, but not the standard size. They are a bit longer.
It runs fantastic. Like any well set up MBX5T, it handles like it's on rails. Add the superior acceleration and power of the Neu motor and you have one formidable race beast.

Hey j_blaze (and others), check out this site:
[link]http://www.rcproductdesigns.com/[/link]
He makes a conversion kit for the Hyper 7 and several other buggies. The H7 kit uses battery trays that are molded right into the splash guard. Very cool. He is backed up with orders, but if you tell him "CJ" sent you, you might get bumped up on his to-do list....Maybe.

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sounds good man, as i said before i am thinking about going lipo soon because its just not enough voltage for my set up.
what run times are you getting from the 5000? i would guess about 20min? 25?

j_blaze
to answer your question, yes all you need is a strong motor mount, good motor, esc, battery/s and if you want, battery mounts.
and i agree with happywing, the guys over at rcproductdesigns are great and that may be the easyest way to go.

thanks guys,
Aaron