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Old 01-01-2011, 04:22 AM
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Default Colours of the 366FS/358FG



I am researching a colour scheme of the CARF P-47 Razorbackwhich Iam planning.

I was hoping to be able to use the colour scheme of the aircraft flown by Harold G. Stalnaker of the
366 Fighter Squadron, 358 Fighter Group, US 8/9th Airforce.I attach a picture of the aircraft in question.

Does anyone know where I could find a little more details on the colours of the366FS/358FG?



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Old 01-01-2011, 05:17 AM
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Default RE: Colours of the 366FS/358FG

I'm not sure how much this will help, but here are a few links for the units in question.

http://www.8thafhs.org/fighter/358fg.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/358th_Fighter_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/366th_Fighter_Squadron

I will have a look through my books, as I have quite a few P-47 books...
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Thanks, Iknew about those pages, in addition to the following one (where I found the painting of the aircraft)

http://www.google.no/imgres?imgurl=h...26tbs%3Disch:1

You may have noticed the picture of the plane in the link that you provided

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/358th_Fighter_Group

Basically, it has the same cowling and tail paintwork as the Stalnaker-razorback. This is a picture
of "Tarheel Hal" flown by Lt. "Ike" Davis during WWII. The difference lies in the body paint. I
guess I coould piece things together by taking the cowl and tail painting of the "Tarheel Hal" and
combining it with olive drab/dove gray fuselage paint of the more standard type used on the
Stalnakeraircraft. Still, I am a little surprised at how hard ithas been to find good documentation
on this, asthe unit was a fairly high-profiled one in a central theatre of war during 1943-1945.




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Default RE: Colours of the 366FS/358FG

Hello & Happy New Year,

apparently the aircraft below is the P-47"Lady Luck"flown by Harold G. Stalnaker.
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ORIGINAL: jdeluyck

I'm not sure how much this will help, but here are a few links for the units in question.

http://www.8thafhs.org/fighter/358fg.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/358th_Fighter_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/366th_Fighter_Squadron

I will have a look through my books, as I have quite a few P-47 books...
Hi again

Which P-47 books do you have? There is one called 8th Fighter Command Markings 1943 - 1945
by Robert Watkins which sounds as though it may have some useful information.

I am getting a bit closer to obtaining some detailed infoon the plane in the picture. Evidently, it was
P-47D-10-RE 42-75102and survived the war, hence not Stalnaker's own plane but one in the
same squadron.

The paint scheme with red/yellow cowling painting and the orange tail was only used after the 366FS
was assigned to the 1 TAF in November 1944. Before that, the planes were painted in OD-NG with
white bands on cowling.




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Hello & Happy New Year,

apparently the aircraft below is the P-47"Lady Luck"flown by Harold G. Stalnaker.

Thanks. Those pictures look as though they may be from before November 1944, when 358FG/366FS
used OD-NG paint scheme, the Òrange tails`appearing after that.

The paint scheme I am interesteddoes have this as basis, with orange tail surfaces,
and red band (1TAF marking) on cowling, and yellow paint on cowl as group marking, from what
I understand.

So if I can get hold of info on the orange, redand the yellow used, I guess I am ready to rumble.

Incidentally, a few years ago, an F-16 Fighting Falcon was painted in the WWII 358FG/366FS
colours, in honor of the final reunion of 358FG7366FS.


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Default RE: Colours of the 366FS/358FG

I always thought thatP-47's went with the Orange/Yellow tail around May 1945.
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I always thought thatP-47's went with the Orange/Yellow tail around May 1945.
Lt. Harold G. Stalnaker, who was downed on December 23 1944, flew an `Orange tail`P-47D Razorback. He was in fact downed by another P-47, and it has been speculated that his aircraft was misidentified precisely due to the orange-painted tail. Also, "Tarheel Hal" was damaged beyond repair in a combat mission prior to May 1945. (The one flying now with the Lone Star Museum is one brought home from South America and painted in that scheme).

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