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Old 03-01-2011, 07:00 AM
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I am getting ready to paint our FW-190. The scheme that the owner and myself like is in a museum in Germany. But every reference book I have found on color doesn't show these markings. The red under the cowl and the red tail. Did this ever exist in the war? I am have troubles uplaoding the photo.
Old 03-01-2011, 07:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: quist

I am getting ready to paint our FW-190. The scheme that the owner and myself like is in a museum in Germany. But every reference book I have found on color doesn't show these markings. The red under the cowl and the red tail. Did this ever exist in the war? I am have troubles uplaoding the photo.
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:53 AM
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interesting. the only red cowl Fw109 I seen (other then the Circus) were fromJagdfliegerschule 103.
havn't seen red on the rudder though. mabey a trainer?
Old 03-01-2011, 08:24 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

In Heinz Nowarra's book I found ONE with red bottom cowling; It was from JG-300. The rudder was not red.
Old 03-01-2011, 08:52 AM
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Interesting airplane, shows a 4th Gruppe marking (the wavy rear fuselage line on the white background) but the version is trying to be an A4 (short nose, 7.7mm gun panel and fin with the tall aerial mast). When the A4's were flying there were only 3 Gruppen to a Geshwader. The rear fuselage contours are not FW, but it does look just like a well known ARF. Is this a homebuilt? Doesn't seem to be enough dihedral, and the wing tips also appear to have the wrong contour. Some one will come up with the Jg associated with the white RVD band. Then you can work out what melange of markings it has, but from what you show they appear to be spurious.
Evan, WB #12.
Old 03-01-2011, 09:28 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

There is a Fw 190 out there with a PRIMER coloured rudder, which could easily be interpreted as red.

I can TRY to post some more details when I get home, but I'm a bit swamped with office work since I got back from Germany.


Two I know for sure that have been pictured are Wk.no. 0005 and Wk.no. 0027. Both more than likely had unfinished, primer only rudders.

Supposedly (its still being argued to the day) that there is a Red "1", from IV./JG3 that had a full red cowl in the early days of 1944. Some people say the cowl was black, others yellow and yet others red.
Old 03-01-2011, 10:08 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

11./JG 3 used the white band. pic I have shows black 13 + ~, July 1944, Germany.
Old 03-01-2011, 11:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: pimmnz

Interesting airplane, shows a 4th Gruppe marking (the wavy rear fuselage line on the white background) but the version is trying to be an A4 (short nose, 7.7mm gun panel and fin with the tall aerial mast). When the A4's were flying there were only 3 Gruppen to a Geshwader. The rear fuselage contours are not FW, but it does look just like a well known ARF. Is this a homebuilt? Doesn't seem to be enough dihedral, and the wing tips also appear to have the wrong contour. Some one will come up with the Jg associated with the white RVD band. Then you can work out what melange of markings it has, but from what you show they appear to be spurious.
Evan, WB #12.

the outline does look off, the vertical to fuselage change is off, the area around the tailwheel and the tailwheel itself looks off, so does the wing fairings and the wing dihedral. This "may" be a custom built display model and not a museum restoration.
Old 03-01-2011, 11:29 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

another pic

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germa...A-3/1778161/M/







Old 03-01-2011, 11:31 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

and another
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germa...A-3/0537001/M/

its at the mueseum in Sinsheim germany.
Old 03-01-2011, 11:35 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

Actually all of JG3 used the white band.

Reichsverteidigund were very standardized.

JG1 = solid red (has also been seen on JG300 birds)
JG2 = yellow with white band center
JG3 = white
JG4 = black with white band center
JG5 = black and yellow band
JG6= red with white band center
JG7= blue and red band
JG11= yellow NOSE and yellow tail band
JG26 = black and white band
JG27= green NOSE and green tail band
JG51 = green with white band center
JG52 = red and white band
JG53 = black NOSE and black tail band
JG54 = blue
JG77 = white and green band
JG300= blue with white band center
JG301 = yellow and red NOSE and yellow and red tail band


Note, as always, there are variations of each, including some "checker board" styles, specifically with JG7 and a specific Me262.

The bands were supposed to be 900mm wide, but those from JG3 were very narrow, while there are pictures of planes from JG1 and JG27 (the first units to be spotted with them) were wider.
Old 03-01-2011, 11:47 AM
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THose pictures on Airliner identified the plane as an A3, no way.


The A3 did not have the antenna mast, nor did it have the cooling louvers, or the bulged gun hood. More than likely this bird is an A7, or possibly an early A8. Unfortunately without being able to see more images of the undersurface of the wing and the other side of the fuse... I cannot be 100%
Old 03-01-2011, 02:33 PM
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

A quick google search shows this aircraft to be listed as a replica on many web sites. Don't know if it uses any original parts or if it is even supposed to represent any particualar model of the 190A. I really doubt the paint job is authentic but that's just speculation on my part.
Old 03-01-2011, 02:38 PM
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http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/

this sight can help with the markings. Maybe she is just museum scale.....a conglomeration of severla planes to make one
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Default RE: FW-190 Paint Scheme experts enter

If you go here;

http://www.penio.narod.ru/

-Click on Germany

-Click on Fw-190

-Click on Color Profiles

You will find a couple of color profiles with red under cowling and red rudder.


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Old 03-03-2011, 12:50 PM
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One to make you cry.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germa....../0142378/L/
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[] Must have been a real high demand for rudders

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After the war, the Allies typically took the prop and the rudder off to prevent joy riding.

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