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Old 08-07-2011, 07:06 AM
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Man.. That look good. My plane looks so empty without it. But until i decide on if its staying this way or being completely repainted, ill leave this off. Al in good time. that engine fits perfectly!
Old 08-07-2011, 09:21 AM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

Exactly. I did the same and it worked out very well.

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Old 08-07-2011, 03:19 PM
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Man.. That look good. My plane looks so empty without it. But until i decide on if its staying this way or being completely repainted, ill leave this off. Al in good time. that engine fits perfectly!

Oh, I can guarantee that if my survives the frist few flights that it's going to be completely stripped and refinished, but in the mean time

For fun I thought I'd park the model I built using those decals on the ESM one for size... The plastic model is 1:72 scale, the ESM, 1/5

The second Dora, yellow 13 is one of my current projects and is almost finished but she's a little bigger at 1:32 scale.


Thanks

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Old 08-07-2011, 04:35 PM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

Red 13 looks fantastic but something about your yellow 10 looks just off...you have any supporting documentation on the gun hood? I've only seen it in a D-13. Awesome paint job.

I agree with you. I hope mine survives it's maiden or it's first few flight prior to painting and many after it.
Old 08-07-2011, 08:36 PM
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Me too Ram, and it is residing somewhere there in the states...
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:49 PM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

You're correct and at one point it was close to me but I didn't get a chance to see it. [&o] seen many others though. too bad there's not one being built or restored and flown.. Dora that is.
Old 08-08-2011, 04:49 AM
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you have any supporting documentation on the gun hood? I've only seen it in a D-13. Awesome paint job.
ummmm
Old 08-08-2011, 04:13 PM
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Gret looking models I wish I had the skill to airbrush like that!!
Just out of interest, have you noticed that the "chequor board" logo on your ESM has been placed upside down!!
Checked mine and it is correct?
Old 08-08-2011, 06:08 PM
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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If it was turned upside down the black check would still be in the same place.
Old 08-08-2011, 07:43 PM
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If you rotate it 90 degrees in either direction, it would be in the correct position per the documentation. Guess someone was off their game that day.
Old 08-08-2011, 10:38 PM
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It only matters if you enter it to be judged - but then the last word in the slogan is misspelled. It should be "Reichsbahn".

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Old 08-09-2011, 03:11 AM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

Ramstein:

Like you, I have flown a wulf or two. Just for kicks...test CG again. I am not doubting the "experts" on this forum, more curious on results. On Yellow One, I must have tested CG 10 times as that was my biggest fear on maiden.

The number 1 issue, That I have seen that plagues the D9 is engine cooling. Try not to stay on the taxi line too long doing engine run ups, especially if it is hot.

You may consider adding Engine Baffels in the cowl to allow cool air over your engine head in flight.

Looking forward to your succesful maiden.

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Old 08-09-2011, 03:21 AM
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Just out of interest, have you noticed that the ''chequor board'' logo on your ESM has been placed upside down!!
Checked mine and it is correct?
[:@][:@][:@] NO!!!!!!! [:@][:@][:@]
Old 08-09-2011, 07:04 AM
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Ramstein:

Like you, I have flown a wulf or two. Just for kicks...test CG again. I am not doubting the ''experts'' on this forum, more curious on results. On Yellow One, I must have tested CG 10 times as that was my biggest fear on maiden.

The number 1 issue, That I have seen that plagues the D9 is engine cooling. Try not to stay on the taxi line too long doing engine run ups, especially if it is hot.

You may consider adding Engine Baffels in the cowl to allow cool air over your engine head in flight.

Looking forward to your succesful maiden.

I use to know a math equation to assist in finding the correct balance, any one remember how it went? Or other options to figure it out.. Thanks
Old 08-09-2011, 03:13 PM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

I found the method of balancing and according to the math, from the center leading edge of the wing, I got 120-160mm safe zone this having been balanced at 155 should work well being a warbird. I possibly could even go to 160 which this would eliminate the need for any extra weight as it balances out at 160. I'll fly it this way first and see where she is. The weights are removable with a few screws so it can be done at the field if needed.
Old 08-09-2011, 03:29 PM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

There is another full scale method that requires you to weigh the plane at each wheel and measure the moments to arrive at an exact CG. I dont have the formula handy but you need 3 scales to do it first of all. You can plot CG shift due to fuel burn and it will tell you exactly where to place the weight needed and how much. My buddy in the AF uses this method on tankers and our models. I can ask him again for the details if you like.
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http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/cg_super_calc.htm
Old 08-11-2011, 05:40 AM
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Default RE: ESM FW D-9

Ok,

A little more progress. The wheel wells were give a light coat of thinned resin and all the larger gaps were given a good helping of the resin, and I have masked the wells off and started painting the RLM 02, right up until I ran out of paint

I bought some more yesterday and have bought the servos I needed to keep going today, So hopefully tomorrow I'll get a little time in the workshop to keep playing. Working big hours this week and all weekend as we get ready to release out 2nd last aircraft, So I'm not holding my breath that it will get done mega quickly.

And I'm starting to toss up whether to use the DLE-55 I just bought or the XYZ 53cc twin that has been bantered about here....

Thanks

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Old 08-11-2011, 06:54 AM
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The dle has an aftermarket muffler by Jtec which is much more concealable if you go this route. I chose not to since im not placing this in any scale competitions.
Old 08-13-2011, 05:36 AM
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Thanks Ram, I'll keep that in mind, but I am still tossing up which engine to use.

I have finished up the servo installation and I have to say that i am impressed with the advances that ESM have made in the area of hardware supplied. The pushrods that go inbetween the servo and the flaps and ailerons were missing from my kit but that's Ok because I planned to replace them with threaded 4-40 rod anyway. The control horns on the flight controls themselves are vey nice and beefy. I ended up using HS-5625MG's on the ailerons and HS-5645MG on the flaps. As you can see the hinging on the flaps worked quited well and there is no problem getting good deflection from them.

The reason I used digitals this time instead of my standard Hs-645MG servos, apart from only being a few dollars more, is because I have bought the Hitec digital servo programmer and this allows me to alter nearly every setup parameter I can do on the radio, but programmed into the servo itself. This means that I can Y lead the two ailerons and the two flap channels together but still adjust the all the end points, throw's, speed, etc of each servo, independant of the T/X thereby reducing the total number of channels used up on the radio. Probably not going to be a big deal on this bird, but it is on my jets, and so the Dora is my guinea pig for this style of setup. Also means only 2 servo connections have to be made for the removeal/installation of the wing.

I ended up ordering the Gene barton spinner, but through Bob holman because Gene doesn't take credit cards and that's a problem from overseas but he said that Bob does. It seems like those two guys work very closely together and they had the spinner shipped out the next day! even though Gene said it would take a week to get more stock of them. Nice work! I also put in a half decent order from tower for other bit's and bob's to get this girl going.

The retracts are installed and the plumbing is almost complete. As you can see in the pictures, they have a very generous amount of forward rake....

Thanks

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Old 08-15-2011, 11:05 AM
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Ticketec,

Swastika looks right. What are the dimensions, ie overall size plus thickness of the segments? Hunterprey's engine looks like a perfect fit. Could he give us more info such as the manufacturer and cost?
Thanks,
JLZ
Old 08-15-2011, 12:54 PM
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Hey Dave, here are some consederations for the engine you may have already thought of...the twin will help you with the cg with the extra weight and it will be considerably smoother. Im putting the 53cc twin an an LA7, originally to be a DA50, the DA will go on another plane later. Just my 2 cents worth of Yank currency

Jimmy
Old 08-15-2011, 01:47 PM
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What don the exhaust manifolds for this plane look like up close. Good scale or kinda ho hum. Vertical Grim and myself both have slightly smaller D9's and need decent looking exhaust stacks. Im thinking iof trying to make some from brass tubing, but, if anyone knows of somewhere to get them pre-molded, etc....please share.
Im still considering getting this esm one as I have a 50cc motor, but want to see the new 109 first before deciding.
Old 08-15-2011, 02:19 PM
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Keleo made them for me for the Sist D9. Isnt this plane about the same size?

I sendt him a mock up, which he copied......maybe he can make more copies....

They are live exhausts;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw8zq5ZGVtE

I dont remember the prize any longer, but I do remember it was quite reasonable, being custom made just for me.

What do you think, guys? Cute?
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