ESM FW D-9
06-13-2013, 06:09 AM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
Regarding HK, most of us don't have problems until something goes wrong at which point HK will turn their head and look the other way. Worst customer support and backing I have ever experienced. Guess Im just spoiled dealing with American companies and a great level of support.
06-13-2013, 09:35 AM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
Thanks Stick Mode and Thunder 21 for the engine advice...
Sorry about the mishap. I"ve certainly had a few. I think we are all better men for toughing it out and rebuilding rather than quitting....
Good news: it wasn't a 1000 plus hours scratch build.
I have this kit, the servos, switches, nav lites, extentions, batts, spinners from Germany, cockpit kit and several new engines but can't seem to be able to touch these parts...tax returns, rental issues, investment market decisions, ...you can have time or money...chose one.
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Sorry about the mishap. I"ve certainly had a few. I think we are all better men for toughing it out and rebuilding rather than quitting....
Good news: it wasn't a 1000 plus hours scratch build.
I have this kit, the servos, switches, nav lites, extentions, batts, spinners from Germany, cockpit kit and several new engines but can't seem to be able to touch these parts...tax returns, rental issues, investment market decisions, ...you can have time or money...chose one.
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06-13-2013, 03:54 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
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Well, the good news is I solved my overheating problems by baffling the top 1/3rd, opening up the cowl flaps a bit, and cutting some larger holes in the bottom of the cowl. I flew first for about 7 minutes and when I landed, the motor was at 180F for the right cylinder, and 200F for the left cylinder in 85 degree temps. Man, this motor is smooth. It purrs like the cat who swallowed the canary.
The bad news is that I had such a good time flying it that I ran it out of fuel right when I was going around for another landing attempt with the gear down and flaps deployed. The motor cut out just as I was turning over the end of the runway to make the go-around. My brain froze, and even though I was telling myself flaps, gear, flaps, gear, I only had the presence of mind to raise the flaps before the model went out of sight below the tall grass. I don't think the motor could have cut out at a worse time. Argh!!!
The model came down flat, as I didn't have much altitude anyways. My club's field is on a slight rise, and the model went down the side which has a slight drop of maybe 6 feet. Both gear ripped out, and one wing was demolished. The other wing is repairable, but since it's a one piece wing when assembled, I'm not going to bother trying to save the one wing and just replace both. The gear still work OK, but the scissors are mangled, so I'm going to replace the struts as well. I haven't run the motor yet, but it still turns over like it used to. The doesn't appear to be any run out on the spinner or motor shaft, so I'm crossing my fingers that the twirly end of the model is OK. I was lucky in that the ground was still soft from the heavy rain the night before. [
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I thought I had enough fuel for about 15 minutes of tooling around, and had flown three 10 minute flights already, but as it turns out that if you throw in a few high speed low passes, immelmans, loops and Cuban 8s, the fuel is bingo at 9 minutes, and I was at the 10 minute mark. Ouch. Hard lesson learned. The pisser is that I could have easily landed that pass had I known fuel was that low. Just one of those things, I guess. [:@]
At any rate, it's an easy, if costly, fix.
Corsair 183, I bought my XYZ 53cc from Octopus RC. It arrived in about 10 days. I think they do a little extra tweaking, as they include better mufflers and spark plugs. Plus, mine came with the proper timing from them. It comes with the same ignition as the one from Hobby King that I can tell. It seems to work fine. Mine spins a Vess Aero 22B (~10 pitch) at 6800 RPM. That's pretty average for these motors from what I can tell.
Well, the good news is I solved my overheating problems by baffling the top 1/3rd, opening up the cowl flaps a bit, and cutting some larger holes in the bottom of the cowl. I flew first for about 7 minutes and when I landed, the motor was at 180F for the right cylinder, and 200F for the left cylinder in 85 degree temps. Man, this motor is smooth. It purrs like the cat who swallowed the canary.
The bad news is that I had such a good time flying it that I ran it out of fuel right when I was going around for another landing attempt with the gear down and flaps deployed. The motor cut out just as I was turning over the end of the runway to make the go-around. My brain froze, and even though I was telling myself flaps, gear, flaps, gear, I only had the presence of mind to raise the flaps before the model went out of sight below the tall grass. I don't think the motor could have cut out at a worse time. Argh!!!
The model came down flat, as I didn't have much altitude anyways. My club's field is on a slight rise, and the model went down the side which has a slight drop of maybe 6 feet. Both gear ripped out, and one wing was demolished. The other wing is repairable, but since it's a one piece wing when assembled, I'm not going to bother trying to save the one wing and just replace both. The gear still work OK, but the scissors are mangled, so I'm going to replace the struts as well. I haven't run the motor yet, but it still turns over like it used to. The doesn't appear to be any run out on the spinner or motor shaft, so I'm crossing my fingers that the twirly end of the model is OK. I was lucky in that the ground was still soft from the heavy rain the night before. [
]I thought I had enough fuel for about 15 minutes of tooling around, and had flown three 10 minute flights already, but as it turns out that if you throw in a few high speed low passes, immelmans, loops and Cuban 8s, the fuel is bingo at 9 minutes, and I was at the 10 minute mark. Ouch. Hard lesson learned. The pisser is that I could have easily landed that pass had I known fuel was that low. Just one of those things, I guess. [:@]
At any rate, it's an easy, if costly, fix.
Corsair 183, I bought my XYZ 53cc from Octopus RC. It arrived in about 10 days. I think they do a little extra tweaking, as they include better mufflers and spark plugs. Plus, mine came with the proper timing from them. It comes with the same ignition as the one from Hobby King that I can tell. It seems to work fine. Mine spins a Vess Aero 22B (~10 pitch) at 6800 RPM. That's pretty average for these motors from what I can tell.
06-15-2013, 06:33 PM
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Anyone who made their own gun hood have the ability and desire to make one for me? I used the one I cut off the fuse and it actually warped in the sun today. I can repair it somewhat but was wondering if there are any heavier duty ones out there?
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06-16-2013, 01:06 AM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
Hi all. Will Titan ZG 45 be enough to fly this plane?
http://www.toni-clark.com/english/frames_e/z45_frm.htm
http://www.toni-clark.com/english/frames_e/z45_frm.htm
06-16-2013, 04:52 AM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
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Sorry to hear mate![:@] I've been flying with the stock tank as well and have had one out field landing due to a fuel starvation dead stick as well. only damage was a cleanly ripped out R/H main gear. took all of 30mins to fix. not good though.
My XYZ was bought through octopusRC and has been great since day one with the stock ignition. I have put iridium plugs in it but other than that, it's stock.
Paps. on paper the Zenoah 45 should fly this model fine.... but at that $$$ the XYZ will be a cheaper, smoother engine and similar performance.
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Sorry to hear mate![:@] I've been flying with the stock tank as well and have had one out field landing due to a fuel starvation dead stick as well. only damage was a cleanly ripped out R/H main gear. took all of 30mins to fix. not good though.
My XYZ was bought through octopusRC and has been great since day one with the stock ignition. I have put iridium plugs in it but other than that, it's stock.
Paps. on paper the Zenoah 45 should fly this model fine.... but at that $$$ the XYZ will be a cheaper, smoother engine and similar performance.
Thanks
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06-16-2013, 08:19 AM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
ORIGINAL: Paps
Hi all. Will Titan ZG 45 be enough to fly this plane?
http://www.toni-clark.com/english/frames_e/z45_frm.htm
Hi all. Will Titan ZG 45 be enough to fly this plane?
http://www.toni-clark.com/english/frames_e/z45_frm.htm
06-17-2013, 02:22 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
53cc twin from hobbyking. $326 at international warehouse....there are THREE in stock shipped anywhere from Int warehouse.
$349 from USA warehouse...can only be sold to USA customers
$388 from AUS warehouse...can oly be sold to AUS customers
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...as_Engine.html
$349 from USA warehouse...can only be sold to USA customers
$388 from AUS warehouse...can oly be sold to AUS customers
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...as_Engine.html
07-12-2013, 03:31 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
I am going to try the 3 blade 20x10 with the new esm spinner on the D-9 (XYZ-53cc). I had to enlarge and deepen the prop cutouts on the spinner. Took me a couple of hours to get it right. I have run up the engine with everything assembled and it seems to pull just like the 22x10 regular prop I have been using. There is just something sinister about a 190 with a 3 blade prop.
07-12-2013, 09:20 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
Interesting. What RPMs are you getting? It looks like it's got a larger diameter than the 2 blade spinner you used. What's the 3 blade spinner's diameter?
I replaced the wing on my D9 and am ready to fly again, if only the rain would stop.
I replaced the wing on my D9 and am ready to fly again, if only the rain would stop.
07-12-2013, 11:32 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
SINISTER love that word only way to describe it i love (some one who,s honest lol) come back and tell me how she flys great choice of prop size brains thinking the same as yours cheers
07-13-2013, 01:37 PM
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It flew well, but whenever I would go vertical she would slow wayyy down. Did not try a loop. It sounded pretty cool and you could hear the prop swishing. Only prob is the engine died on me in flight. I think it overheated. I had previously used the Top Flite 190 spinner which is way smaller than the ESM spinner. I was thinking before I flew it that the new spinner does not allow much air in there and with the 3 blade most likely it lugged it down and then just said that's enough.
I was able to get her back to the runway but not enough time to put gear down. those electric retracts are cool but they dont respond of course like the air. scuffed up 2 of the blades. imagine I can sand it down and rebalance it, hate to have one flight on an 80 dollar prop! I put the 2 blade back along with the TF spinner and it flew all day. Lots of power.
My 2 blade is a XOAR 22x10, the 3 blade was a TBM 20x10. I did richen up a bit before the flight just in case.
So the 3 blade looks cool on the ground and she flies much better with the 2 blade, which I really deep down inside knew that but just had to try it.
I was able to get her back to the runway but not enough time to put gear down. those electric retracts are cool but they dont respond of course like the air. scuffed up 2 of the blades. imagine I can sand it down and rebalance it, hate to have one flight on an 80 dollar prop! I put the 2 blade back along with the TF spinner and it flew all day. Lots of power.
My 2 blade is a XOAR 22x10, the 3 blade was a TBM 20x10. I did richen up a bit before the flight just in case.
So the 3 blade looks cool on the ground and she flies much better with the 2 blade, which I really deep down inside knew that but just had to try it.
07-13-2013, 01:48 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
just my luck there out of stock [:-] ill wait i opened my cowl out by half a inch to allow for the plugs so i should get enough air passing threw i hope
07-14-2013, 02:46 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
thanks Quist, I did some repairs to my hood yesterday after flying all day. I fiberglassed it on the inside to strengthen it. Now it looks like it has been used in combat. Thanks for the info on the colors.
07-14-2013, 05:35 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
ORIGINAL: quist
The gray is rlm76 (grayviolet) with black to darken. Model master Acryl paints.
The gray is rlm76 (grayviolet) with black to darken. Model master Acryl paints.
So it is more likely in the RLM 81-82-83 range if it is a late war color.
Or RLM 75 if it early war color.
07-14-2013, 08:36 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
ORIGINAL: kwik
I don't think RLM 76 is correct. RLM 76 is the color they normally had on the underside of their planes, isn't it.
So it is more likely in the RLM 81-82-83 range if it is a late war color.
Or RLM 75 if it early war color.
ORIGINAL: quist
The gray is rlm76 (grayviolet) with black to darken. Model master Acryl paints.
The gray is rlm76 (grayviolet) with black to darken. Model master Acryl paints.
So it is more likely in the RLM 81-82-83 range if it is a late war color.
Or RLM 75 if it early war color.
Anyone got a cool $1.2M to drop on an authentic FW-190 D9?
http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!focke-wulf-fw-190d-9/c129j
07-16-2013, 03:15 AM
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SINISTER love that word only way to describe it i love (some one who,s honest lol) come back and tell me how she flys great choice of prop size brains thinking the same as yours cheers
SINISTER love that word only way to describe it i love (some one who,s honest lol) come back and tell me how she flys great choice of prop size brains thinking the same as yours cheers
07-16-2013, 12:18 PM
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RE: ESM FW D-9
dgiatr, I totally agree. I am not done with that even though I will fly it on the 2 blade. Maybe when it gets cooler out here in the mountains I will give it another try. Or maybe I can enlarge the opening on the cowl to get more cooling air in. I have enough exit as it doesnt overheat with the smaller spinner on it. That ESM spinner restricts the intake air, but it looks cool.