NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
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NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
Soon to be released, Hangar 9 '50 size' Corsair.
At first, I thought this was yet another re-release of the Sportsman Aviation Corsair (same size) which was marketed a couple of years ago, and which in turn I felt was a slightly downsized version of the Hangar 9 '60 size' Corsair.
But looking more closely: I see subleties which mean if nothing else: it was re-signed as well, to be much more scale accurate.
PROS
First: notice the 'hump' behind the canopy: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! This is the way Corsairs are SUPPOSED to be.
Next, the video states that is includes 3 1/2" scale wheels, AGAIN: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! That would be VERY close to scale size. Most of the other, 1/8 scale/ '60 size Corsair come with and/ or recommend 3 1/4" wheels, which is way too small (scale size for 1/8 is 4"). In fact, I'm thinking, even if you choose to buy some other ARF (such as soon to be released Top Flite Corsair), you MIGHT be better off using these wheels.
Scale Accurate Finish/ scheme: Once again: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! EVERTHING is Right, down to having correct canopy (no braces) for late war, carrier based F4U-1D. Incidently, this is modeled after a U.S.S. Bunker Hill Corsair, which in 1945 had about 72 Corsairs based on it. Hangar 9 stated that more than 1 set of numbers come with the model, meaning you have quite a variety of numbers to use. The "167" is famous for being the one flown by former VF-17/ Jolly Rogers Squadron pilot Lt Cmd Roger Hedrick.
Power options: What ever 'blows your skirt up'. Nitro 2 stroke, Nitro 4 stroke, GAS 4 stroke, Electric: Hangar 9 made sure this one was covered, and included options for any of them.
Retracts OPTION: I don't know of any ARF that comes with GOOD retracts. Reason: GOOD retracts cost money, so including GOOD ones would cause price increase which is un-acceptable to many/ most. This way, if you want to add cheap retracts: you are welcome to do so. If you want to add GOOD retracts, the option is there. They are marketing Lado type electric retracts for 1bout $165: that is the option I would choose.
CONS
Now the nay-sayers will immediately point out several things;
Lack of flaps: yes, it would be nice for getting the true Corsair look, and I wish it was an option. But for flying, I'm sure it won't need them, based on previous Hangar 9 experience. Hangar 9 Warbirds are 'built light to fly right', so they make sacrifices to keep them light.
Flat, framework tail feathers: I think some put way too much emphasis on this, to the point that some think it's OK to have everything else out of whack (general profile, exaggerated wingspan, etc.) as LONG as it has airfoil shaped tail feathers. Frankly, if that's the case: it really wouldn't be that difficult to remove the covering, sheet the tail feathers, then sand to airfoil shape and re-cover. As is, it makes for a very light tail, which leads to light airplane and nicer flying characteristics. Persoanlly, there are far more details that that interest me more than having 'airfoil shaped tail feathers', such has having a scale accurate finish.
Glossy/ iron on covering finish: Now that one is a laugher, because late war Corsairs (such as the one this one is modeled after) were painted GLOSSY SEA BLUE. Not ALL WW II aircraft have a flat finish, get over it.
Flat section in wing where it joins to fuselage: this is exactly like the larger Hangar 9 Corsair AND the old Sportsman Avition Corsair. I have found it to be easy to correct tho on my Hangar 9 Corsairs, by removing about 1/4" from each side of the center/ root section and re-covering.
Cowl has 'flaps open on top': True, no Corsair should have open cowl flaps at the very top of the fuselage. Reason: it further impaired pilot visibility, so early models had them 'pinned shut', later models were manufactured without them, with fuselage faired even with the cow. This however, SHOULD be an easy fix: just remove the top 2 (or 3?) colwl flaps and re-attach with them in closed position.
More INFO
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...#quickOverview
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1s_yAfggA&feature=player_embedded
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At first, I thought this was yet another re-release of the Sportsman Aviation Corsair (same size) which was marketed a couple of years ago, and which in turn I felt was a slightly downsized version of the Hangar 9 '60 size' Corsair.
But looking more closely: I see subleties which mean if nothing else: it was re-signed as well, to be much more scale accurate.
PROS
First: notice the 'hump' behind the canopy: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! This is the way Corsairs are SUPPOSED to be.
Next, the video states that is includes 3 1/2" scale wheels, AGAIN: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! That would be VERY close to scale size. Most of the other, 1/8 scale/ '60 size Corsair come with and/ or recommend 3 1/4" wheels, which is way too small (scale size for 1/8 is 4"). In fact, I'm thinking, even if you choose to buy some other ARF (such as soon to be released Top Flite Corsair), you MIGHT be better off using these wheels.
Scale Accurate Finish/ scheme: Once again: THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS! EVERTHING is Right, down to having correct canopy (no braces) for late war, carrier based F4U-1D. Incidently, this is modeled after a U.S.S. Bunker Hill Corsair, which in 1945 had about 72 Corsairs based on it. Hangar 9 stated that more than 1 set of numbers come with the model, meaning you have quite a variety of numbers to use. The "167" is famous for being the one flown by former VF-17/ Jolly Rogers Squadron pilot Lt Cmd Roger Hedrick.
Power options: What ever 'blows your skirt up'. Nitro 2 stroke, Nitro 4 stroke, GAS 4 stroke, Electric: Hangar 9 made sure this one was covered, and included options for any of them.
Retracts OPTION: I don't know of any ARF that comes with GOOD retracts. Reason: GOOD retracts cost money, so including GOOD ones would cause price increase which is un-acceptable to many/ most. This way, if you want to add cheap retracts: you are welcome to do so. If you want to add GOOD retracts, the option is there. They are marketing Lado type electric retracts for 1bout $165: that is the option I would choose.
CONS
Now the nay-sayers will immediately point out several things;
Lack of flaps: yes, it would be nice for getting the true Corsair look, and I wish it was an option. But for flying, I'm sure it won't need them, based on previous Hangar 9 experience. Hangar 9 Warbirds are 'built light to fly right', so they make sacrifices to keep them light.
Flat, framework tail feathers: I think some put way too much emphasis on this, to the point that some think it's OK to have everything else out of whack (general profile, exaggerated wingspan, etc.) as LONG as it has airfoil shaped tail feathers. Frankly, if that's the case: it really wouldn't be that difficult to remove the covering, sheet the tail feathers, then sand to airfoil shape and re-cover. As is, it makes for a very light tail, which leads to light airplane and nicer flying characteristics. Persoanlly, there are far more details that that interest me more than having 'airfoil shaped tail feathers', such has having a scale accurate finish.
Glossy/ iron on covering finish: Now that one is a laugher, because late war Corsairs (such as the one this one is modeled after) were painted GLOSSY SEA BLUE. Not ALL WW II aircraft have a flat finish, get over it.
Flat section in wing where it joins to fuselage: this is exactly like the larger Hangar 9 Corsair AND the old Sportsman Avition Corsair. I have found it to be easy to correct tho on my Hangar 9 Corsairs, by removing about 1/4" from each side of the center/ root section and re-covering.
Cowl has 'flaps open on top': True, no Corsair should have open cowl flaps at the very top of the fuselage. Reason: it further impaired pilot visibility, so early models had them 'pinned shut', later models were manufactured without them, with fuselage faired even with the cow. This however, SHOULD be an easy fix: just remove the top 2 (or 3?) colwl flaps and re-attach with them in closed position.
More INFO
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...#quickOverview
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1s_yAfggA&feature=player_embedded
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RE: NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
WOW!
This Corsair is definitely a MUST GET! Perfect size! I have an OS 904S.
It appears as though models are getting smaller? In my case, I'm dialing down, selling everything actually, because of the cost of larger models, so this Corsair is a great opportunity. I will go CL with it AND beat the thing up and make an F2G-1 out of it, with flaps!
I have the 60 size H9 Corsair, NIB, which I turned into a Marine version. Still have the green and white strips to apply, and I will be doing this shortly, in this Thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_84...tm.htm#8462647
I have to finish the graphics on this model, selling the kit, will get me the loot for the 50 size Corsair! I'll have it for sale on RCU's classifieds.
Sure looks nice in the Marine version!
This Corsair is definitely a MUST GET! Perfect size! I have an OS 904S.
It appears as though models are getting smaller? In my case, I'm dialing down, selling everything actually, because of the cost of larger models, so this Corsair is a great opportunity. I will go CL with it AND beat the thing up and make an F2G-1 out of it, with flaps!
I have the 60 size H9 Corsair, NIB, which I turned into a Marine version. Still have the green and white strips to apply, and I will be doing this shortly, in this Thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_84...tm.htm#8462647
I have to finish the graphics on this model, selling the kit, will get me the loot for the 50 size Corsair! I'll have it for sale on RCU's classifieds.
Sure looks nice in the Marine version!
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RE: NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
I am also excited about this bird... I signed up to get one of the first batch. Got a good deal, too! I will put a .46 on it and see how it does. It seems like I have a thousand .40 sized engines.
Edit: I just watched the video on the Corsair, and they said you will need a .52-.55 if you go with a two stroke. That's fine, I've got a .52 Evo. Man, I can just see it now... I bet people will be putting .90 2 strokes on this thing and then complaining if the wing breaks!
Edit: I just watched the video on the Corsair, and they said you will need a .52-.55 if you go with a two stroke. That's fine, I've got a .52 Evo. Man, I can just see it now... I bet people will be putting .90 2 strokes on this thing and then complaining if the wing breaks!
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RE: NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
Looks good. A definite addition to my letter to Santa this year.
I'm glad H9 went with an optional landing gear design. Good idea. Hoping to hear good things about the firewall.
I'm glad H9 went with an optional landing gear design. Good idea. Hoping to hear good things about the firewall.
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I don't think there is a Thread?
I was hoping to trade my H9, NIB for the smaller one.
No one around to do it with.
Hey! You can't force someone to have interest.
Charles,
CORSAIR Brotherhood #72
I was hoping to trade my H9, NIB for the smaller one.
No one around to do it with.
Hey! You can't force someone to have interest.
Charles,
CORSAIR Brotherhood #72
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long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
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ORIGINAL: mike early
...............long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
...............long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
Notable differences:
1) Retract mounting is different, the mounting blocks are lower, allowing direct installation of the more common types of retracts which have mounts on BOTTOM of units, rather than the top.
2) Rudder and elevator servos have been moved 'indoors'. The Sportsman Aviation version, and I believe the H&M version as well, had these 2 servo mounted extrenal, as was the original '60 size' H-9 Corsair
3) addition of some scale accessories such as machine gun ports, front landing gear doors
4) GREAT LOOKING WHEELS! These even appear somewhat scale size, and certainly give this model a very scale looking stance. I would buy some of these wheels if they become available
BTW, H-9 manual:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...590-Manual.pdf
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I see quite a few differences between this plane and my H&M. I no longer believe they are the same at all.
There certainly seems a lot to do on the completion of this ARF.
P.S. all servos on the H&M are internal.
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ORIGINAL: mike early
....long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
....long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
Ooooops, sorry, I was seaching RCU. I quit going to RC Groups when they decided to segregate warbirds.
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ORIGINAL: CorsairJock
A link is worth a thousand words. I've done some searching, can't seem to find threads on either (H&M OR NEW H-9 Corsair), only the old H-9 Corsair. Could you post link please?
Ooooops, sorry, I was seaching RCU. I quit going to RC Groups when they decided to segregate warbirds.
ORIGINAL: mike early
....long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
....long thread on electric forum on RCGroups. Could probably learn a lot from the H&M Performance Corsair threads as well. Folks say it is the same plane, with the addition of a hatch.
Ooooops, sorry, I was seaching RCU. I quit going to RC Groups when they decided to segregate warbirds.
I hate the fact that the warbirds are split up! *******s!
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RE: NEW Hangar 9 F4U-1D Corsair '50 size' ARF
Is the cg in the manual correct for installing the eflite rotating retracts? I assume the plane would be balanced with the gear retracted.
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i have one it's in the assembly process, retracts are installed and work great, aleirons and servos installed, going to change the linkeage, their a little short for my liking, then just need to fight some more with molding the belly pan
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I have mine done. Will your retracts retract all the way into the wheel well if you hold the plane in a 45 degree bank? My low wing wheel in the bank will not go into the wheel well. If the plane is level, the gear work fine.
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Hellcat; mine seem to be working fine, they go all the way up and stay there
CorsairJock; 14" tall (from the ground up) by 23" wide
CorsairJock; 14" tall (from the ground up) by 23" wide