TTMT

Does anyone know which of these two planes is easier to fly? I bought a Wildcat, but I found the Trojan flies nicely on my G5.5 sim, so I'm thinking twice about whether or not to keep the Wildcat or return it for the Trojan. I'll be flying at a local recreation field. Idon't have a runway or any organized flying area nearby.

Mk23socom

My Feedback: (7)

With in 25 miles of Anaheim.. CL SPEED FLYERS OF SOUTHERN CA Flying Site Details 4.41 miles	3815	14	HOWARD DOERING Email Contact	9682 BLANCHE AVE GARDEN GROVE CA 92841 Phone: 714/638-4937	10
LOST HILLS FF MODEL AIRFIELD ASSOCIATION Flying Site Details 4.79 miles	4662	210	GEORGE WALTER Email Contact	2412 DEERPARK DR FULLERTON CA 92835 Phone: 714.528.0774 Visit Website	10
ANAHEIM MODEL AIRPLANE CLUB Flying Site Details 4.99 miles	1472	57	STEPHEN KILIAN Email Contact	400 WINDFLOWER LN PLACENTIA CA 92806 Phone: 714.993.0652	10
RADIO CONTROL BEES INC Flying Site Details 6.05 miles	143	13	ETHAN MARSH Email Contact	2594 N TORRES ST ORANGE CA 92865 Phone: 714/637-4418	10
EL DORADO SILENT FLIERS 8.80 miles	2523	42	CHRISTOPHER MYERS Email Contact	10288 BRANSCOMB ST DOWNEY CA 90808 Phone: 562-803-1668 Visit Website	10
ORANGE COAST RC CLUB Flying Site Details 10.07 miles	1330	288	JOAN WHITSITT Email Contact	9200 WESTMINSTER BLVD SPC 65 WESTMINSTER CA 90602 Phone: 714/894-7413 Visit Website	10	Yes
THE MODEL AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION 11.18 miles	1316	107	JASON SAULTEN Email Contact	1613 E FRANZEN AVE SANTA ANA CA 92705 Phone: 714-543-4131 Visit Website	10
HARBOR SOARING SOCIETY Flying Site Details 11.55 miles	128	77	HENRY SMITH Email Contact	PO BOX 1673 COSTA MESA CA 92626 Phone: 714/548-1894 Visit Website	10	Yes
S CALIFORNIA R/C HELICOPTERS Flying Site Details 12.12 miles	4418	68	STEVEN LOPEZ Email Contact	5528 ACACIA AVE WHITTIER CA 90601 Phone: 562-692-1036	10
CHINO HILLS FLIGHT CLUB Flying Site Details 13.17 miles	5036	5	TRAVIS LABRADOR Email Contact	21141 LYCOMING ST WALNUT CA 91789 Phone:	10	Yes
SOUTHERN CA ORG RC HELICOPTERS Flying Site Details 14.45 miles	2204	31	BEN NGUYEN Email Contact	213 CALLE MIRAMAR #9 REDONDO BEACH CA 90802 Phone: 310.245.9283	10
SAN GABRIEL VALLEY RC LEAGUE INC Flying Site Details 15.31 miles	154	111	TED HOLDREDGE Email Contact	PO BOX 1645 DUARTE CA 91733 Phone: 562.425.8924 Visit Website	10
SCALE SQUADRON OF SOUTHERN CA Flying Site Details 15.85 miles	1520	58	JOAN WHITSITT Email Contact	PO BOX 95 EAST IRVINE CA 92650 Phone: 714/894-7413 Visit Website	10
SILENT WINGS SOARING ASSOC Flying Site Details 17.85 miles	1216	52	STEVE SALLENBACH Email Contact	1140 E LOUISA AVE W COVINA CA 91722 Phone: 662-331-2773 Visit Website	10
POMONA VALLEY MODEL AIRPLANE CLUB INC Flying Site Details 19.51 miles	142	524	BETH GOODWINE Email Contact	PO BOX 2707 CHINO CA 91710 Phone: 951.681.9656 Visit Website	10
SANTA FE DAM RADIO CONTROL MODELERS Flying Site Details 20.44 miles	988	103	RAY LARSON Email Contact	PO BOX 93 DUARTE CA 91010 Phone: 626-303-2373 Visit Website	10
SCAMPS 20.46 miles	158	94	KEVIN SHERMAN Email Contact	1521 NORMANDY TER CORONA CA 92882 Phone: 951-737-7943 Visit Website	10
SOARING UNION OF LOS ANGELES Flying Site Details 21.49 miles	964	99	CRAIG TOWNSEND Email Contact	PO BOX 3816 TORRANCE CA 90510 Phone: 310-513-0462 Visit Website	10
AMERICAN MODEL AIRPORT ASSN 21.92 miles	113	48	GEORGE READ Email Contact	18494 HIBISCUS AVE RIVERSIDE CA 91763 Phone: 909.780.9376 Visit Website	10
CIRCLE CITY FLYERS INC Flying Site Details 22.46 miles	1862	97	RON KEITH Email Contact	PO BOX 6307 CORONA CA 92878 Phone: 951-340-0048 Visit Website	10
LAGUNA NIGUEL SLOPE SOARING GUILD Flying Site Details 22.99 miles	3691	6	SCOTT MAGNER Email Contact	29306 ELBA DR LAGUNA NIGUEL CA 92651 Phone: 949-436-3313	10
SO CAL AVIATORS 23.55 miles	4990	6	REZA GHOLAMIPOUR Email Contact	28 DIAMOND GATE ALISO VIEJO CA 92656 Phone:	10
SAN VALEERS MODEL AIRPLANE CLUB Flying Site Details 24.09 miles	735	16	RALPH PREY Email Contact	4859 W 97TH ST INGLEWOOD CA 90301 Phone: 310-671-8695	10
KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND CIRCLE Flying Site Details 24.58 miles	2389	44	JOHN WRIGHT Email Contact	2795 VUELTA GRANDE AVE LONG BEACH CA 92688 Phone: 562/420-9018 Visit Website	10
PENINSULA SILENT FLYERS Flying Site Details 24.62 miles	2065	70	JOHN SPIELMAN	26729 SHADOW WOOD DR RANCHO PALOS VERDS CA 90275 Phone: 310.378.0951 Visit Website

TTMT

Thanks for the list.

carlbecker

My Feedback: (3)

If this is your first plane then there is probably a better choice. Sims are great but I find the real world different. I find flying with others at a field much better then alone. I have flown a few Wildcats including the parkzone, they all fly well. They do exactly what is asked.

Brad330l

My Feedback: (1)

The PZ Wildcat is very pleasant to fly and is great out of the box.
Sorry I cant comment on the T28.

Good luck,

Brad

Highflyer2

My Feedback: (1)

TTMT,

I agree with the others. The PZ wildcat is a easy (it's all relative) plane to fly. Can't comment on the T-28.

John

TTMT

I plan to fly at my local recreation center field.  I usually don't have much time to travel to an organized field, though I'd like to visit one sometime soon.  That's one reason why I went with the Wildcat belly lander.  I figure I'd break off landing gear.

On the other hand, I've read on another thread here that the PZ T-28 is easy to fly, and buying the red/white scheme makes it easy to see and maintain orientation.  I figured I might fly it without the gear if I can make it safe for belly landings.

I've been using my sim for several years.  Training for one of these PZ planes, I've been adding in 5 to 10 mph winds to make the sim more realistic so I know better what to expect when it's the real thing.

I'd feel better about keeping the Wildcat if it could be fitted with landing gear.

gwweber

My Feedback: (24)

The real issue is the landing gear.  If you have a nice runway go for the t28.  It is better because it will give you a real feel for taking off and landing.   The wildcat is a very nice plane and quite a bit stronger then the t28, but you have to hand launch it and belly land it in the grass.   They are both very excellent planes for the money, the t28 is better to have if you have a runway!  P.S.  Remember, if you continue to fly you will need to learn to use landing gear anyway.

TTMT

Well, I usually have very little time for my hobbies, so I plan to use the field at a nearby community rec center.  I figure the grass will be too tall there for landing gear, so belly landing will be necessary for now.

By the way, I ended up buying the P-47D Thunderbolt.  The plane went together nicely except for the belly landing plastic shield.  I didn't realize the two-sided tape had peeled off the shield when I pulled the paper backing off, so one edge ended-up without any tape when I applied the shield.  I was able to get the tape under the shield after-all, but now I have a slightly lifted leading edge on the front end of the shield.  I hope it doesn't catch when I attempt belly landings. It stands up probably a 1/16th of an inch.

Anyway, I decided I wanted landing gear and, if I were to buy one of these warbirds, I'd rather buy my favorite one - with the options for retracts and flaps too.

I hope it is as sturdy as the Wildcat I returned.  The foam seems a little delicate, but I hope it proves to be durable.

By the way, does anyone know what kind of paint is used on this foam if you need to make repairs?  I know some spray paints will dissolve foam.

Thanks guys.

hrrcflyer

TTMT,

I have had all three of the planes you mentioned. The T-28 is the best trainer out fo the bunch. The wing has quite a bit of dihedral which makes it easier to fly. I like my Wildcat even more. So much more, I gave my T-28 to my brother. It is considerably faster than my T-28 is and quite a bit more manuverable. My favorite of the three is the P-47. I love the way it flies. It is even faster than the Wildcat. I'm actually on my second P-47. I got a little too low with some high speed passes and the ground jumped up and grabbed my plane.................[:@]. I put the retracts in my first one, but the grass where I fly is never short enough to taxi the plane out to the runway without nosing over. So I just have someone hand launch the second one for me (the plane is too heavy to try to hand launch by yourself).

Good luck with your Thunderbolt.

David

Mk23socom

My Feedback: (7)

I have the P-47 as well and I have never owned a small foamie prior to this plane so I was leery of the thing not handling well when I was down in Georgia flying it in the breezes.. Turns out the thing handles magnificently and I LOVE it. I left the retracts and flaps off and save those for my big planes. This one is simply a toy to me and I am fine with belly landings with it. I also have no problem hand launching it by myself and had never done it prior to this plane.

TTMT

Thanks a lot, guys.  I've had some misgivings about going with the P-47 as my first plane instead of the T-28.  I need a slower plane, so I've gone the wrong direction in that regard.  I don't have a buddy for hand launching, so I'll have to struggle with that too. Oh well, wish me luck.

I'm working on my RealFlight G5.5 sim in preparation for my first flight.  There isn't a ParkZone P-47 model to work with (that I've been able to find anyway), so I'm practicing with a P-51, the T-28, the ME 109 and the F4U Corsair.  The Corsair is the toughest by a long shot.  The ME 109 is next in difficulty.  I hope my plane actually flies more closely to the T-28.

I'm factoring in wind of 5mph, but I'm going to start bumping that to 10 as I keep practicing.

One thing occurred to me, if I've made a mistake choosing the P-47 and I wipe it out (sure hope not), I can buy the T-28 airframe and transfer everything over to it (motor, esc, servos).

Thanks again.

Mk23socom

My Feedback: (7)

Honestly, hand launching for me is a total cinch. I dont see you having any problems there.. The 47 WILL slow down and fly at a nice easy pace if you need it to right out of the box. Flaps and gear slow it down even more with the added weight but I dont really see a need for them on mine..

TTMT

So, do you fly without gear all the time? I had a little problem applying my belly landing shield, so the front edge is slightly raised (maybe 1/16" or less). Hope it doesn't catch on the grass.

When you hand launch, Iassume you use full throttle and a firm, slightly upward throw, right?

Mk23socom

My Feedback: (7)

Hand launch it every time... in fact, going to be hand launching tomorrow.. installed the skid plate, didnt have the problem you had.. works great.. full throttle and a nice firm throw at a modest nose up attitude.. gotta get on the stick quickly but if I can do it.. anyone can.. I have the unique ability to roll my ankle while standing still.HAHA. so you shouldnt have a problem!

TTMT

Thanks for the tips.  I'm making and EC3 to Deans Ultra adapter for my battery connection, then attempting my first flight - maybe tomorrow.

I hope the experience is at least similar to my G5.5 sim.  If it is, my plane should come back in one piece - more may only a few!!

Johnnie Red

I have bought and I have them flying all the following parkzone fighters. F4U Corsair, T-28 Trojan, F4F Wildcat, P-47 Thunderbolt. From all the above is difficult to choose because they all fly great right out of the box. They all have their character in flying but they are good flyiers.
For a beginner....
I'd say that the Wildcat is the best in flying characteristics because it can fly at higher angle of attack without stalling, at lower speeds, It turns better than all the rest, it manouvers better; it generally has the better flying characteristics from the rest.
After the Wildcat I'd say it is the T-28 because it has a tricycle gear with nose steering. The Corsair is the third cause it has very nice handling in lower and middle speeds ...
And the last is the P-47 which is flying like a train; does all the aerobatics but it needs a more experienced pilot on the controls.

Thats my list and as I said before they all fly great. For begginers though my feeling is that the F4F Wildcat is far better than the rest.
Happy flying
J.R.

TTMT

Really appreciate the input.  Hope I don't wipe-out my new P-47 but, if I do, I can eventually move the equipment to a Wildcat airframe and start over.

Mk23socom

My Feedback: (7)

Thats funny, Ispoke with one of the members of my club today since I saw he had a PZWildcat and he said that its harder to fly than the 47 and the 28.. I dont understand what is so hard about flying the P-47.. mine is as lazy a flier as it gets..

Dont let this scare you, I flew my 47 this morning in a 15mph wind and while it startled me a couple times, it was mostly very easy to handle even though I had to micro-manage the controls a bit to keep its attitude in line.. You really cant go wrong with any of them because as he said, they are all good fliers.. NOWORRIESBROTHER!!

TTMT

Thanks for the positive thoughts.  I was a little bummed because I originally bought the Wildcat thinking there was little to break on it and it was a pure belly lander.  I love the P-47, though, so I decided to go for it - hoping for the best.  I read these recent comments are was second guessing myself.  I can't return it now anyway, so no point in that.

I'm planning to fly it tomorrow if I can find a park area without many people.  I'm removing the gear for belly landings.  Have to run to the hobby shop first to get an EC3 connector - to wire my deans batteries to the EC3 speed control on the 47.  I want to preserve the original connector rather than clip it off and solder on a deans.

Sure appreciate all the great advice.

Johnnie Red

Dear TTMT

All the Parkzone fighters are very good flyiers...(american designed warbirds..)

It is very difficult to chose from the Parkzone birds....( I try to be as fair as possible; but I love all of my parkzone warbirds...)
Trying hard to be fair I 'd say that the Wildcat due to the fact that is a mddlewing configuration is much more stable in turns than the lowwing configuration P-47, or the T-28 or the Corsair. You can see that easilly by making some stall turns with all of them.The F4F is way more stable...
The P-47 is much faster though so for somebody who wants to do aerial manouvers is a better planform. (It wow's the croud!!)
For a beginner the P-47 has a weaker wing because it has the weel wells factory made so if you have a missfortune to crash your bird; unfortunately the P-47 wings are weaker than the wings of the F4F...
The T-28 is good flyier but it is the first design of Parkzone and is a lot heavier than the F4F. The motor of the T-28 has a few discrepancies if you are unlucky and you let it meet with the ground. The later series warbirds like the F4F and the P-47 have better motors installed. I Fly my P-47 and my F4F and I am happy with both birds. They are VERY good flyiers. (if you compare them with the chinese makes they are 100% better made and they are ballanced right out of the box)....
So no worries...With the P-47 later on you have the ability also to put flaps. You'll need them in case you put the retracts on.

Happy flying
J.R.

1320Fastback

Keep that list of clubs handy as you'll soon find out that flying at any city park in So Calif is illegal.

Barrymartin

matthewcornell

Hi Guys. Ihave the ParkZone T-28 (44" wingspan), which I really enjoy, but which is a little too much for the park setting Ioften fly my helicopters at. So I'm looking for a smaller brushless durable park flyer for sport moves, and Ilike the looks of the F4F Wildcat. My question is whether the Wildcat is enough smaller to make the parks viable. After all, it uses the same motor, is only 5 1/2" narrower in wingspan and 7" shorter. What do you think? Iwas looking at the Zero, but heard bad things about them. Thanks!

GBLynden

I would go with the belly lander over the T-28, but it is a close fight. Both fly really well and both have their strengths.