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Meister FW190A Build with FG Fuse

Old 10-25-2013, 03:22 AM
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Default Meister FW190A Build with FG Fuse

Well, I'm off and running on a new project. Far enough along on this to start posting pics and progress. This is my favorite airframe of all in the WWII era. WARNING, I am not building this to compete in TopGun so I am doing some things that aren't necessarily scale but look good...but I am sticking to the main theme.
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:42 AM
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Firewall and mounting platform is Hysol'd in and then glassed in with 5oz. cloth and Epoxy.
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Old 10-25-2013, 07:55 AM
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Interesting project. I like the FW190. What are your impressions of the fiberglass fuse? Do you have a photo showing the bottom of the fuselage at the wing saddle?

-Ed B.
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Ed,
This is probably the best warbird fuse I have seen as far as overall quality and not being paper thin like the CARF stuff. We aren't in a weight game on these so, I like something good to work with when setting formers and not having to add a bunch of CF reinforcement in high load areas. Here is a pic of the wing saddle area.

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Old 10-25-2013, 08:53 AM
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Hey Rex:
Didn't you have a Miester 190 before? chuckle, chuckle
See you at Dino's event.

John
Old 10-25-2013, 11:10 AM
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Hey John man! YES…I did, but we all know what happens at a certain shop over time, it becomes a "boneyard"! This one is MINE and on my own with some input help from Pedro and PJ.

Here are some pics of the mounting of the engine.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:42 PM
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whats engine?
Old 10-26-2013, 04:48 AM
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I am using a DLE-111. Fits perfect! The cowl blisters are exactly where the spark plug boots are, so it seems it was made for this plane. The cowl is so well built, I didn't need to add any reinforcement for the access hatch. The joint for the cowl to the fuse has a very thick margin too, so once it is in place and bolted with (5) 6-32 bolts, it is bulletproof!

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Do you think the new Saito 84r3 would work on this airplane?
Old 10-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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I don't know the dims of the Saito 84r3 but this Cowl is 11 1/2" in diameter. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by rbxbear44 View Post
Ed,
This is probably the best warbird fuse I have seen as far as overall quality and not being paper thin like the CARF stuff. We aren't in a weight game on these so, I like something good to work with when setting formers and not having to add a bunch of CF reinforcement in high load areas. Here is a pic of the wing saddle area.

Thanks, it's nice and open in there. I also prefer thicker/stronger fiberglass, even if it's heavier. You build is looking good. The DLE111 should be a great match for this plane. I'll be following along. Good luck with the build!

-Ed B.
Old 10-27-2013, 04:23 AM
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Yes, the whole fuse has great access. I'll open up the port square hatch between the tail and cockpit and also possibly the bottom hatch for even more access as I load the servos for the tail and tackle the functioning canopy.

Got all the forward formers done the way I want them. Assuming I am needing some good weight forward of the CG line, so not too worried about weight up here…putting as much as I can under the Gun Hood as far as components. I had to make all of these myself btw…tedious work! The only Formers that came with the Fuse Kit were the Firewall, Forward Wing Saddle Former and the Former behind the Cockpit area. I went with Epoxy and 5oz. FG Cloth around each former rather than Hysol because I wanted the "absorbed strength" rather than just mass strength since Hysol doesn't penetrate surfaces like Epoxy does.

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Old 10-27-2013, 06:48 PM
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Will be following your build closely. Was wondering if a DLE 111 would fit this ship, glad to see it does! So one question answered. Any thought to a color scheme?

Looking forward to seeing more progress.

John
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The old DLE 111 with the straight plugs will not fit. The DA 100 fits the same as the 111 because of the blisters.
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Just flew my Meister 190 today with a 3W 75 in it. Flew great, but it will soon have the DA-100 in it this winter.
Old 10-28-2013, 02:49 AM
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Rebel, awesome you got some flights in…knowing your season will be getting pretty cold soon!

I have a buddy flying his with a DA100 and the fit in the cowl was perfect, so that's why I went with the DLE-111. I wanted to go with a twin for sure though. Had a good weekend of progress, heading to the tail feathers next. Having to wait on the wings a bit with some re-draw occurring on the gear plate rib locations and the fact that the wings for the FG Fuse are different from the full kit wings. Dino is working on these with Terry Farmer and I should have them in the next week or so.
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Started work on the tail feathers…the stab first. Was going to get rolling on the functioning canopy but ready to work with some wood and take a break from FG!!!

Had to build the stab structure while standing it on it's trailing edge which as a bit different! It was somewhat "rickety" so I just ended up getting close as I could to straight and used sheeting it to get it to perfect straight.

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Got the tail feathers pretty much done, will need to final shape as I bring the tail section of the fuse together and get that end of the plane all squared up. I will use 2oz. cloth on the bottom of the stab just for some added strength due to the servo boxes and hatches taking up quite a bit of sheeting area. You can't really see it, but I did contour the servo hatches to match the airfoil of the Stab.

I used 1/64 ply as my final "skin" for the Elevs and Rudder, hoping that when I cover them with Solartex, it will give some dimensional scale look. Again, I am not building a "scale competition" FW190…I want a great looking warbird and want to have some fun building this kit too and worrying too much about documentation along the way. I want it to be nice, not precise!!!

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Looking good! You're moving right along. Have you built one of these before? Are there a lot of helpful notes on the plans or other instructions that come with the plans, or are you relying on your own building experience?

Thanks,

-Ed B.
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Thanks Ed. I have not built a 190 and not a whole bunch of years of building kits either but I have done a few over the years. I assemble jets for a few close friends, been doing so now for 5-6 years and it does give me some "edge" on how to do some things. But to be honest, I was burned out from being involved in jets and working within some of the companies that manufacture jets and jet products…you do everything but get nothing in return! So I decided to just go back in hopes to re-energize the fun in this hobby. This project is doing that for sure. I am really getting a kick out of doing this.

I am using RCSB website forums as some helps and I have two buddies that are Master Builders that I can bounce things off of as they come up. I put this thread up on RCU instead of RCSB because there are, I think 5-6 FW 190 Meister builds…all of which are stalled out and have no updates for quite a while now…didn't want another "set of bones" on that site…LOL!

On the instructions, I received only the second official new set of 190A Plans since they offered the FG fuse, so the plans have not had a full transfer of notes like the full kit plan has. What I got was basically, wing, stab, rudder outlines and a few notes. I am betting Dino will add the cross sections, pertinent details for the future buyers though. With the RCSB Forums and what Dino has given me, I am doing ok without many issues at all. The first guy to do these wings for the FG fuse is Terry Farmer and he has been a help with great photos of his build. He had wings in sheeting in 5 days!
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This FW190 is a great project and it's nice to not have to build the fuselage. I know some guys enjoy building an all-wood fuselage and perhaps I will do that someday, but right now I just don't have the time with a job and family. Plus, doesn't the fiberglass fuselage for this plane look better than the built up wood version? I thought the built up fuselage for this plane was a little too square looking?

I am building a 1/4 scale Mick Reeves Spitfire with the new fiberglass fuselage and have a build thread over on RCSB. It's slow, but I am making progress, and enjoying it!

-Ed B.
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The BEST part of the FG fuse is not having to make the wing fairings!!! I am finding there is much work to do with a FG fuse too…but still, I think you are ahead of the game pretty good. Also, the main panel lines and hatches are a part of the Fuse form which is nice.

Wings are next!
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Ok, wings...

I am working "cautiously" through these since this is a fairly new set of plans for the FG fuse. The fairings and the "marriage" of the front saddle are different than the wood kit. Thanks to Terry Farmer giving me some great pics of his first go at this and some heads up ideas from him, I am progressing forward now. I am trying to move the gear as far towards the center as I can to the scale location. Also, the new Sierra Wheels are the BOMB! They are scale looking and also narrow like the REAL DEAL, this helps take care of the depth issues others have been having to get the gear retracted all the way into the wing without getting the materials and ribs too skinny.

I am working one wing at a time right now until I can get through the curve of the gear plate location and proper angles to keep from having a toe in or toe out issue once I join the two wings. I think I have the gear in the correct location now…we will see!!! Btw, the first pic shows me trying to place the gear…I was able to move it further in with no problem but had to create a Doubler on Rib 4 of my own to extend the Gear Mounting Rails and load.

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Some guys have asked for pics of the Sierra Wheels and tires for the 190…here they are.

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Those wheels look great.

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