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Old 03-05-2022, 01:49 PM
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yeah Iím old school, I still enjoy the challenges of a good build, and the satisfaction of saying "I built that"
I feel the same way. I can appreciate the look of a beautiful airplane but for me it's the joy of owning the build!
Old 03-05-2022, 03:08 PM
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P-38 lightning kits are getting to be slim pickings. I think we can name them off using three or four fingers.
Zirolli, if you can find cowls, details, and canopy..
I'm not sure if the plans for a Yellow are even available any more.

ARF's you got a few pnp electric/epo foam offerings (oi)
The NEXA which has terrible gondala to center wing fitment and the flaps are kinda iffy.
The JMB.

I've never seen a KMP build or kit so no idea on it..or if its still available.

Our puerto rican brother decided to go full bore for a 1/5..made to his order. No, he didn't build it, but its painted to his spec, has the servos he wanted, and is set up for his engine package. Its also a full composite with a killer inner structure. Honestly, it would take a world class, top gun level, builder to match a jmb in detail..Now, how they match up to exact scale, no idea, but they are absolutely gorgeous so I can see no wrong going that route. If we sit down, add up materials, kit cutting, servos, tanks, extensions, hardware, linkages, and figure time in based on the average cost of a commission build, he probably saved three or four grand, and thats including engines and the JMB looks just as good.
I can't really consider it an ARF, its a commission build, in a box, minus engines and reciever.

I think our friend here is one lucky SOB to afford it..

Could he find issues? Sure, but if he does, JMB will be very quick to rectify it. I priced one right before tapping Rumen to design me a kit..They are in contact with the buyer, every step. Just like a commission builder.
Pricing to my door in Texas, with all the bells and whistles was 8400 bucks..I did the math, built, the 1/6 I got coming, before painting and finishing, 7800, estimated. His is a 1/5. Difference, He paid up front, mine is as I go. And mine will fit in the SUV easier lol.

And flyer, you just need to freaking finish yours. Dallas events 2023, I wanna see her.

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Old 04-21-2022, 01:43 PM
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One more coat of paint, a little weathering, and she'll be ready to put back together to get the engines running.


Old 04-24-2022, 07:13 AM
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I'm sure someone on this brotherhood has built a Wing mfr P-38, I have the short kit and would appreciate any and all advice. Thanks John Comp
Yes I built one back in early 2000
Old 05-20-2022, 09:30 AM
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Hey so Iím ready to balance her. Iím getting good but confusing info on weather to balance gear down or up. What did you guys do?



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Old 07-25-2022, 03:55 AM
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Old 07-25-2022, 04:23 AM
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Nice job Phil I sure love the color!
Old 07-25-2022, 10:59 AM
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Awesome, my favorite airframe
Old 08-02-2022, 08:58 AM
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Fili,

have you had any more opportunities to fly the 38? What is your overall impression of it? Is it hard/easy to fly, did it require many changes, or was it as expected? Iím building one in 1-2 years. Iím hoping I can find the fiberglass booms. We all look forward to more videos and a flight report if you have time!
Old 08-02-2022, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spitfire66 View Post
Fili,

have you had any more opportunities to fly the 38? What is your overall impression of it? Is it hard/easy to fly, did it require many changes, or was it as expected? Iím building one in 1-2 years. Iím hoping I can find the fiberglass booms. We all look forward to more videos and a flight report if you have time!
I didn't get the chance last weekend to get the second flight in, but hopeful for this weekend. After watching the video, I could see things I didn't notice while flying. she seemed to really jump off the ground on takeoff, so I've looked at two things. Ele trim, and increasing (decreasing..Futaba) expo on Ele. I'm also going to check my ele pushrods for flexing as I see some up and down movement when small ele inputs were made. I noticed a small area on the right side of the ele at the tail where the ele had rubbed some. Not sure if that's an issue, but will be addressed as well. Both mufflers were lose, high temp thread loc was applied, and should solve that issue. The port engine fuel tank cap has started to work loose, glad I found that! On approach, you'll see some "dipping" I do believe that was from deploying flaps with no down ele mixed in. Thats on the list of things to do as well. I also haven't had the chance to give the retracts the once over.

Overall impression of the maiden? Loved her!! No trim was needed (but will look more carefully at ele) Ailerons were good, no trim. I particularly liked how she slowed down nicely on approach for landing. the GP 61s preformed flawlessly. Taking the extra time to set throttle linkage was (Is always) imperative on a twin. I cannot wait until the shakedown flights are in the books for that full throttle low pass, and of course, the Yippee low passes as well. Thanks for asking Mr. Spitfire66
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.My baby. Just waiting on Rumen to mold, cut, and ship. Hes got her all designed. You should see the flaps....






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Wow, just wow
Old 11-18-2022, 10:04 AM
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From Model Airplane News;
Pilot project from Randy Johnston, Timnath, Colorado
Randy scratch-built this gorgeous P-38 using Ziroli plans. He finished it in the “Scat III” scheme that was flown by Lt. Robin Olds during WW II in the European theater and included the appropriate invasion stripes. Lt. Olds was a triple ace, achieving 17 aerial victories. Randy finished his model using Warbird Colors paints and Callie Graphics markings. The 114-inch-span Lightning weighs in at 40 pounds. A pair of Desert Aircraft 60cc engines provides power and the landing gear and brakes are from Sierra Giant Scale. Randy says he spent three years building the model that became his “COVID project.”

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Old 11-24-2022, 07:03 PM
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Default Zeroli p38

ZEROLI P38

Been in my fleet since 2018 , in maint mode had one quadra 52 switched to pusher will mount in starboard engine

Old 11-26-2022, 10:32 PM
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Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone ever found out if that giant scaled up 37% Ziroli P-38 ever got off the ground. 19 ft wingspan 12 ft booms twin DA-150's,It was built around the early 2000's up in Vancouver by the"Skunk Works". I managed to find a couple photos that are not mine.

I think my buddy located it boxed up in a crate.
I posted on another
forum as well. P-38 1/4 Scale


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Old 12-01-2022, 06:44 PM
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Default All Composite P38

Bob Moore, in Haysville KS is building a Ziroli-based P38. Plugs and molds are done. I don't think he's on here but he's documented the entire project on his fb page. It's an awesome build! I don't know if he'll be selling any.
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Originally Posted by Beaufortflyer View Post
Bob Moore, in Haysville KS is building a Ziroli-based P38. Plugs and molds are done. I don't think he's on here but he's documented the entire project on his fb page. It's an awesome build! I don't know if he'll be selling any.
He does good work from what I have seen, looks like it could be a great flyer. I don't really care for all the drama on his FB page though some things should be kept off social media!
Old 12-16-2022, 04:15 PM
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Hi,
Anybody knows where to find a copy of the building instructions for the Ziroli P-38? I have the plans and the wood. Although much information is found on the plans a copy of the instructions would shorten the study time considerably.

Thanks,
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Old 12-16-2022, 08:54 PM
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I think those notes on the plans are ALL YOU GET to build a Ziroli.

Read them and know them before starting.

Welcome to the Big Time!

Being an amateur, I find it very helpful to study a build thread by somebody pro, ideally look over their finished product in person.

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My Ziroli Staggerwing had everything on the plans, no instruction book/sheet of any kind.
Old 12-17-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kram View Post
I think those notes on the plans are ALL YOU GET to build a Ziroli.

Read them and know them before starting.

Welcome to the Big Time!

Being an amateur, I find it very helpful to study a build thread by somebody pro, ideally look over their finished product in person.

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There are a few good build threads I studied while building mine.
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So the maiden flight was relatively uneventful, the second flight . however.... I got too slow on approach and dropped her out of the sky and about ten foot, so I had to fix her. In doinso, I also chose to repaint her....From Yippee, to Glacier Girl

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Thanks Mark,
I actually suspected your answer, but noticed in an ad that they specified plans AND building instructions for the P-38. Maybe I wrongly read that as separate instructions in my mind.

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Thanks Mark,
I actually suspected your answer, but noticed in an ad that they specified plans AND building instructions for the P-38. Maybe I wrongly read that as separate instructions in my mind.

Per
Old 12-17-2022, 03:41 PM
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Hey Per, you are correct. The ziroli does in fact come with a separate instruction sheet. Shoot me your email and Iíll see what I can do to get you a copy. May have to do it by phone.

Kyle

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