fun2fly24

In this video there ia a super scale hellcat that had a rough life. It had so much detail including rivets but it died after its third flight. this shows that anything can happen in this hobby and you should limit yourself based on skill level. thanks for viewing and enjoy!
http://youtu.be/uWPwAF7ovOg

lawrence b

Why did he land left to right after taking off right to left? Is he one of those pilots who can't make a right handed pattern? Did the wind switch?

andernamen

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Tragic for who? I would say it was predictable. Too much messing around with the elevator on final. Obviously not too experienced. Almost had it though. I kept saying "Go Around!!"

Warbird AL

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I think he landed that way because someone mentioned to him that the sun was too bright and low. I heard some guy say that in the video. Sad to see in any case

kimhey

Yes, Unfortunately this exessive use of elevator is too common. On this particular flight, one can see that on the first pull up (3:20 -3:26), it looks like the model is very close to stall due exessive amount of elevator, in a phase where nothing to very little is required. It also looks like the model is forced around in manuvres by the use of elevator. This is flying with lack of basic knowledge. I am sorry it ended this way.

Ernie P.

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Perhaps there is a simpler explanation. I was having problems landing my P-51; tending to porpoise. Sometimes all was fine, sometimes a bit dodgy. Some one mentioned I seemed to have a lot of elevator throw, even on low rates. I dialed back the throw on low rates, which I was using for landing, and the problem was solved. As a still learning pilot, I was blaming the excessive up and down movement on my limited flying skills. Actually, I simply had too much elevator movement. Adjusting the expo and limiting the throw a little bit made the plane a lot easier to control while landing. A better pilot might not have had the problem; but a relative new pilot might. Just a thought. Thanks; Ernie P.

Peter_OZ

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Has no idea what he is doing.

Model would be fixable if so inclined.

Yert another case of people wanting to run before they have figured iout how to scratch their rear end,.

QED

irocbsa

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That's a shame. It looks like it could be repaired, but the result will be the same unless the pilot's skill improves.

Peter_OZ

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he needs to stick to a trainer for quite some time.

What were the other doing letting him fly an advanced model like that? Even in flight he had it at full throttle and was screaming around like a lunatic instead of feeling out the model.

I was watching it in some manouvers and would suggest the CG may be a tad rearward, even when the "test pilot" was landing it was very hot and seemed to me to be a bit squirelly.


Lets hope he learns and goes to a simple model to learn the basics including use of the rudder

Eddie P

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I don't think he needs to stick to a trainer but he does need to master a stabilized approach and learn to "fly the wing" and not " fly the prop" on a large airplane. Stop horsing the airplane around like a foamy for starters. A Top Flite Gold Edition or 20CC H9 warbird flown really nice and scale for a season or two would get him the skills he needs or give him the inclination to do something else - either way. That was a pretty Hellcat! I bet it could be fixed but it will be a bit of work. Sucks!

Peter_OZ

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he still needs to learn, he hasnt mastered the basics yet so back to flight school for him.

Maybe he thinks it is an x-box game

IFLYRC-RCU

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UGH.

And painful for me especially to watch.. this was my Hellcat at one time... I sold it to a fellow club member a few years ago. I had many, many flights on it.

So, it was originally framed up by Shawn McHale, a great builder and detailing guy. I bought it, not sure exactly if it had been flown... BUT, I changed the engine, reworked a bunch of things to my liking, did the air brushing and detailing to hide some of the small imperfections, added the fake motor.. and flew the heck out of it. The airframe did have a warp on one wing, but it flew great once properly trimmed.

The aircraft weighed in at 44 lbs or so.. not light! BUT - I never had any issue landing the plane.. full flap, and keep the nose down.. with a bit of power.. and it landed well for me. I assume the weight was still installed over the 5.8?

The plane was clocked at almost 120 mph on a dive with a 2 blade prop.. I then flew it with a 24-12 3 blade detailed up a bit. Helped slow it down a bit. It drew a lot of attention as it was fast, loud, and was finished in a unique color scheme.

Unfortunately, heavy metal warbirds can bite .. they don't float in like a lot of planes. you have to fly it down and flair.... It looks fixable to me as Peter said.... sorry for your loss...

This plane was featured in Fly RC magazine when they covered the Muncie Warbird event a few years ago.... get the glue out !!

fun2fly24

Yeah its fixable. The wind did change direction and the main issue i think is that it was a slight crosswind i think but mistakes happen. All part of the hobby.

fun2fly24

Just a BTW. The owner of this plane has been flying bigger warbirds fromthe 80" + range and this was his first "heavy warbird." The plan was to let the owner fly it and the test pilot land it but he insisted that he wanted to try and land it. We also thought he was just shooting an approach and was just gonna be a pass not an actual landing. we did'nt want any trouble in the middle of the flight. The test pilot tried to talk to the owner to guide him in but it just ended in the crash.

Peter_OZ

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can't help idiots who know it all can you?

kram

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What engine?

Stmcan

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This is what I call........all dollars and no sense. Hard lesson on a awesome plane. Been there done that! Sorry for your pains.

tonyos

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Sorry to see that Great Model

flycatch

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Read all the comments and then watched the video. All I can say is "been there done that" and I learned from my mistakes. I did almost the same thing with a CMP ME 109 that I new was a lead sled.

rcavi8ter

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Sorry to see it die.

fun2fly24

Yeah it sucks but it has happened to all of us. You can't blame the owner for wanting to fly his plane but he just has a bad approach and it went down from there. And the engine is a brison 5.2 i think.

IFLYRC-RCU

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Here's pic of under the cowl as I was setting it up with the fake radial. The pic of the "radial" was stage one.. later a lot more detail was added to the engine btw.

The engine was a Brison 5.8. These were powerhouse engines in their day. It spun the 24-12 3 blade very well. plane was still fast, and would fly at part throttle all day. The plane didn't know it was heavy! Landed very light.. even had a dead stick once with no problem.

Instructor

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Like many have said already, pilot needs to fly more scale, not just flying around with full throttle. I have a Bud Nosen 1/4 scale P-51 that weights 38# and is flown with an older Quadra 75. I am turning a Master Airscrew wood 24x12 prop at 5200 RPM and it flies scale like. It will take off in 30 feet if I let it, but I know it needs a longer run so I have total control of it before liftoff. I fly it around with half power because I found out it won't go any faster if I use full power. Maybe it just the design, but then it doesn't look right at full power. I use full power to do loops and Splits S's. It will power it's way through a 500 foot loop without slowing down. The rudder is used during all turn around maneuvers and on landing. Rudder is even used during a loop to keep it tracking straight. All landings are flown right down to touchdown, two wheel, no three point. I use at least 45º flaps during landing. Landings are straight in, no turns during landing. This P-51 took Best Military at Farview Flyers Giant Scale Rally 2013. I was flying among CARF F4U Corsairs, CARF P-47 with Moki 450, and Top Flight P-51's that used Zenoha G45's and G-62's. They all were flying 100 to 130 MPH. My max speed with this setup is 89 MPH. Make them fly more scale and not the fastest and you will have it a long time. Sorry for the accident, but it is repairable....

Larry/Instructor

fun2fly24

Thats a cool p51! I have a scale corsair top flite kit that won best military aircraft at far view this year!

RCHS1

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sad video , i hate to see a plane with that much work go in . Warbirds are tricky at times and we all had to learn one way or another. I find the less elevator the better on landing just let it land itself .. easier said than done

Here is a video ziroli hellcat 53 pounds(my first go at glass and auto paint) a da 100 26x10 rips prop -power diving full throttle dive from the heavens several times . video shows several landings on this beast - she runs out long on the runwaay after touchdown watch the rudder after touchdown and its slamming left and right to keep her straight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEc4FNpg3k