Build thread: readying the Hanger 9 mustang 1/5th scale.
04-13-2022, 05:55 AM
#176
I have a g-62 on my Yellow AT-6, I run pretty much 3/4 to full throttle the whole time because it's so big and heavy, burns about 12 oz in a 10 minute flight, I have a 24oz tank, comes back half full,, my dle55 on my TF mustang burns about the same,, IMO 36oz of fuel is just extra weight unless you're going to make 25 minute flights
p.s.
Great looking plane Todd,, well done
p.s.
Great looking plane Todd,, well done
04-13-2022, 09:41 AM
#178
850? I run IBECs coupled to twin A123 2600s on bat shares systems,,, would easily run the RX, servos and Ignition for 3 hours of flight time,, What does that have with fuel tank size?
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
04-13-2022, 09:56 AM
#179
Originally Posted by scale only 4 me
850? I run IBECs coupled to twin A123 2600s on bat shares systems,,, would easily run the RX, servos and Ignition for 3 hours of flight time,, What does that have with fuel tank size?
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
04-13-2022, 10:17 AM
#180
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by scale only 4 me
850? I run IBECs coupled to twin A123 2600s on bat shares systems,,, would easily run the RX, servos and Ignition for 3 hours of flight time,, What does that have with fuel tank size?
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
10 minute is my base line for testing fuel consumption and what I have in reserve,,, most clubs limit flight times to 15 minutes so guys don't hog the flight line,,, 10-15 minutes is a typical flights for me
my club only limits if there are other people wanting to fly, that time is by gentlemen's agreement by who is there. I fly while they are charging batteries lol. O'm wanting 15 minutes average flight time with a 5 minute reserve.
No, I don't use IBECs. Just another PoF
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-13-2022 at 10:20 AM.
04-13-2022, 11:18 AM
#182
Thread Starter
You may be right, I just prefer the old way. A battery for each circuit. My worst case on pwer supply side is a battery failer. With an IBEC it complicates the circuit. Even the switches I use fail to on. I just don't trust em.
Nor do I think you, or anyone, are crazy for using them. To each their own.
There's a flip side to this as well. An IBEC is designed to eliminate the need for seperate batteries, in essence, running 2 circuits from one power supply. If your ignition starts yanking more amps, for example, flat lining your battery in minutes, how do you, immediately know its the ignition? Answer, you don't. Instead, you start with the usual culprits, the servos. There goes one flying day. Then you move on to testing the ignition, second flying day as you order a replacement. Me, I'd pay for overnight shipping to go fly..
Now, my seperated circuits, I'll be able to localize to each individual circuit day 1, possibly, even further find the issue out the gate. In the above example, its pretty simple with no IBEC. Load test battery, if battery checks out, Adrian gets a phone call.
Rx battery, a bit more involved. LG, theres only three actuators. One is bound to be the culprit.
Its just easier to find, and fox issues before there's a smoking crater where an airplane used to be. I keep logs on my batteries, Charge before flught, after flight, and monthly load test. I can literally track every single circuit and know there's a potential issue before its an issue.
Nor do I think you, or anyone, are crazy for using them. To each their own.
There's a flip side to this as well. An IBEC is designed to eliminate the need for seperate batteries, in essence, running 2 circuits from one power supply. If your ignition starts yanking more amps, for example, flat lining your battery in minutes, how do you, immediately know its the ignition? Answer, you don't. Instead, you start with the usual culprits, the servos. There goes one flying day. Then you move on to testing the ignition, second flying day as you order a replacement. Me, I'd pay for overnight shipping to go fly..
Now, my seperated circuits, I'll be able to localize to each individual circuit day 1, possibly, even further find the issue out the gate. In the above example, its pretty simple with no IBEC. Load test battery, if battery checks out, Adrian gets a phone call.
Rx battery, a bit more involved. LG, theres only three actuators. One is bound to be the culprit.
Its just easier to find, and fox issues before there's a smoking crater where an airplane used to be. I keep logs on my batteries, Charge before flught, after flight, and monthly load test. I can literally track every single circuit and know there's a potential issue before its an issue.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-13-2022 at 11:43 AM.
04-15-2022, 06:38 AM
#185
Originally Posted by scale only 4 me
What about those new fangled 2.4g Radios? Those any good? 
What fun is it if you don't know if someone is going to shoot you down playing with a transmitter in the parking lot?
04-15-2022, 03:20 PM
#187
Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
IBEC's are well established as being a safety enhancement, not a point of failure, most especially the tech aero
People have to use what they're accustomed too until they're ready to make a change. The device will be around a long time no doubt, for good reason.
04-15-2022, 08:25 PM
#189
Thread Starter
No, its not silly, dude. Less often a battery fails than electronics.
You do you, I'll do me. Its that simple. Don't like how I'm outfitting my plane, theres an exit button on this thread under the last post. Use it.
Everybody is all about the latest electronics. Until it bites them. Its that simole.
My reasons for not wanting to use an IBEC are the same as hundreds of others that don't use them.
This is strike 2, scale. Full count. You started with me on another thread, and then come on my build thread and start again? Don't think so.
You came in my thread, criticising my equipment setup, and then post crap about me trying to justify? Please, you criticized, I gave my reasons. Its that simple. Now bounce, before you get bounced.
Tired of people telling me I have to do what they do ir be like they are in this hobby. Don't like the way I do thibgs, stop readibg my threads, put me on ignore, Idgaf. Just stop trying to start crap.
You do you, I'll do me. Its that simple. Don't like how I'm outfitting my plane, theres an exit button on this thread under the last post. Use it.
Everybody is all about the latest electronics. Until it bites them. Its that simole.
My reasons for not wanting to use an IBEC are the same as hundreds of others that don't use them.
This is strike 2, scale. Full count. You started with me on another thread, and then come on my build thread and start again? Don't think so.
You came in my thread, criticising my equipment setup, and then post crap about me trying to justify? Please, you criticized, I gave my reasons. Its that simple. Now bounce, before you get bounced.
Tired of people telling me I have to do what they do ir be like they are in this hobby. Don't like the way I do thibgs, stop readibg my threads, put me on ignore, Idgaf. Just stop trying to start crap.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-15-2022 at 09:46 PM.
04-16-2022, 06:46 AM
#190
No, I came into the thread to comment on fuel capacity and the G-62 of which I have had a few and currently run one on my AT-6,, you changed the subject to batteries and ignition set ups and claimed IBECs are a point of failure,,
It's an open thread, when we see someone make misleading or false statements we are all free to disagree and comment
It's an open thread, when we see someone make misleading or false statements we are all free to disagree and comment
Last edited by scale only 4 me; 04-16-2022 at 07:30 AM.
04-16-2022, 09:19 AM
#191
Thread Starter
Opinions are opinions. Bottom line, you have taken it upon yourself to try to tick me off, or harass me for whatever reason. First in the other poll thread, now on my own thread. I posted nothing false or misleading,. I posted my opinion. Keep it up and your days at rcu will be numbered.
You know what. Nvm. I'll cancel my account here. I'm done.
You know what. Nvm. I'll cancel my account here. I'm done.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-16-2022 at 09:24 AM.
04-16-2022, 06:12 PM
#192
Thread Starter
Now that I have Mr rc on ignore. I can return to having fun on this forum. Funny how it only takes 1 person to ruin a party.
Guys, I understand you all use Ibec's I understand you trust them. I understand there are good and bad ones. How does fuel tank size rate to batteries? Simple, you can take up a gallon of fuel if you want, but if you don't have the battery power to last, whats the point. Mr RC apparently couldn't make that connection.
Yes, I see putting an extra electronic device between the needed electronics and the batteries as a potential issue. Especially on a newly built plane. Its easier to diagnose issues if everything is seperated, new servos, new linkages, I can find whats going to cause issues, what is working well, etc. I've already got enough unfamiliar electronics to deal with. New transmitter, new reciever, a retract controller thats unfamiliar to me, telemetry, etc. I don't need an added headache or yet another device that may or may not cause a problem, potentially, working with all the rest.
I have a heavily modified engine on top of that.
Could there be an Ibec in rhe future, sure. But, for now, at least, I'll stick to what I know on circuits, get the rest figured out, make sure all of that is working right, then if I decide to...
But, to have someone come into this thread, that according to his profile has built, maybe, three planes and is probably young enough to be my kid...(Breathe in, breathe out, count to ten)
I will say, if my kid disrespected somebody the way he has shown in two different threads, he'd be opening his fly to eat cuz I'd have booted his butt up to his throat.
Guys, I understand you all use Ibec's I understand you trust them. I understand there are good and bad ones. How does fuel tank size rate to batteries? Simple, you can take up a gallon of fuel if you want, but if you don't have the battery power to last, whats the point. Mr RC apparently couldn't make that connection.
Yes, I see putting an extra electronic device between the needed electronics and the batteries as a potential issue. Especially on a newly built plane. Its easier to diagnose issues if everything is seperated, new servos, new linkages, I can find whats going to cause issues, what is working well, etc. I've already got enough unfamiliar electronics to deal with. New transmitter, new reciever, a retract controller thats unfamiliar to me, telemetry, etc. I don't need an added headache or yet another device that may or may not cause a problem, potentially, working with all the rest.
I have a heavily modified engine on top of that.
Could there be an Ibec in rhe future, sure. But, for now, at least, I'll stick to what I know on circuits, get the rest figured out, make sure all of that is working right, then if I decide to...
But, to have someone come into this thread, that according to his profile has built, maybe, three planes and is probably young enough to be my kid...(Breathe in, breathe out, count to ten)
I will say, if my kid disrespected somebody the way he has shown in two different threads, he'd be opening his fly to eat cuz I'd have booted his butt up to his throat.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-16-2022 at 06:16 PM.
04-17-2022, 05:47 AM
#193
LOL man,,, No you'd be wrong again, on both counts, I'm thinking this might have been about my third kit build, I think this was in 1975, and I'm pretty sure I was near 13 kit builds before I graduated high school
my last ARF modification build here,, Since you're a Mig-3 fan you might like it
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...3-Mig-3-by-ESM
Good luck with your build young man
my last ARF modification build here,, Since you're a Mig-3 fan you might like it
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...3-Mig-3-by-ESM
Good luck with your build young man
04-19-2022, 09:14 AM
#194
Thread Starter
Spinner is on its way.
I was going to paint the spinner to match the 357th. Dunno if I can bring myself to do it lol.
I was going to paint the spinner to match the 357th. Dunno if I can bring myself to do it lol.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-19-2022 at 09:22 AM.
04-29-2022, 09:18 AM
#199
Thread Starter
I did manage to get Glen's new "bottom end" design parts on the plane stand today before heading off for the last "moving" load (a small one)
If you have one of his stands and live in a humid climate, you know the issue, as the moisture in the wood changed, the handles would loosen and the stand would, slowly sag.
This new design stops that in its tracks.
If you have one of his stands and live in a humid climate, you know the issue, as the moisture in the wood changed, the handles would loosen and the stand would, slowly sag.
This new design stops that in its tracks.
04-30-2022, 03:52 PM
#200
Thread Starter
A face any mother could love...err..maybe any pilot. Engine will need two washers at each stand off to nudge the back plate forward and leave between 1/16th and 1/8th gap. But as for being centered. My eyeball redneck ways didn't do half bad :-) I can see the finish line guys..but my legs is crampin..
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 04-30-2022 at 03:56 PM.
