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Old 07-16-2007, 02:47 PM
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also like the YS but I think the YS 140 would be a bit over kill for this guy
A YS 140 will go in mine if I decide to get one. The YS 140 has even lower cylinder head/valve cover height than the OS 120 pumped, so nothing should stick outside the cowl. Had an OS 120 III pumped on a 12# plane and was not impressed with its performance.
Old 07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
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Well Richard ... seeing how all your warbirds haul AXX ...
I think I should just go your route...
I like speed..lol
Thanks Dude..

I know your a big fan of YS and I've always wanted to try one.. do you have much trouble with them?
sport guys at the club really bag on them.. pattern guys thats all they fly
you can just see the crazy power they have
I just hate to fiddle with engines all the time.. when it happens too me I give it away and start with a new one...lol

Do you know how the Ys 140 is on fuel? and fuel mess?
like you I only run 20/20 ys I find better performance and cleaner
do you have to fiddle with it or set it and forget it

Maybe it's me but the saitos I've had are really messy lots fuel dripping for days after I fly
I've had a few OS 120 and they were much cleaner.. Flying and after
really wonder about the YS .. I hear they are even cleaner?

Thank Richard
Old 07-16-2007, 03:13 PM
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I know your a big fan of YS and I've always wanted to try one.. do you have much trouble with them?
I had some trouble initially as a YS newbie around four years ago. Once I learned how to listen and tune these monsters, I rarely encounter trouble anymore. Nowadays I only fly either YS or gas. The YS 140 is a relatively new engine, so it should be easier to tune and more reliable than its predecessors.

Do you know how the Ys 140 is on fuel? and fuel mess?
I ran mine on the test stand, and it consumed around 2 oz of fuel per minute. Fuel mess is the same as the other YS engines. Another good engine for this plane might be the MVVS/Evolution 1.6 gasser.
Old 07-16-2007, 03:20 PM
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do you have to fiddle with it or set it and forget it
Once it set, you can forget about it. I don't even have holes on the side of the cowl for the needle valves.

really wonder about the YS .. I hear they are even cleaner?
Yes, they are pretty clean because they don't have crankcase breather (just like the OS III pumped). Excess oil gets expelled out of the exhaust, so you do get some oil residue under the plane behind the muffler.
Old 07-16-2007, 03:34 PM
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Wow no hole for needle valves thats great! you must have one for high end? no
well I think I'll give it a shot
if I have problems do you mind if I shot you an email?
I can also check with the pattern guys

this thing will be a rocket ship with The YS 140

ok I'm going to get on the list...lol

thanks Richard
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:38 PM
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Well this plane looks much better than the Fw-190.. What's up with that? [&o]
Old 07-16-2007, 04:02 PM
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Alright I'm on the list should be the end of august
I hate waiting..lol
Really dora nine I thought it looked pretty good

With the bear cat I'm going to go for the modern airshow look with a f-15 jet pilot

I'll report back when it shows up

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Old 07-16-2007, 04:33 PM
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Wow no hole for needle valves thats great! you must have one for high end? no
well I think I'll give it a shot
if I have problems do you mind if I shot you an email?
Nope, no hole for the high end. Feel free to shoot me e-mails if you run into problems.
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Well this plane looks much better than the Fw-190.. What's up with that? [&o]
Yeah, what is up with that? Somebody must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed. I still hope they fix the cowl.
Old 07-25-2007, 01:56 PM
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HI Guys:

A little late with the info but it here are the cowl dimensions.

Diameter of the cowl at the firewall sides are:
long axis 205mm;
short axis 190mm.
The diameter where the engine comes out is 150mm.

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Old 07-28-2007, 02:14 AM
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Andrew, that sounds a bit small for the other specs called out. If the dimensions for wingspan are reported accurately at 70.9" the cowl should be more like 9" or 228mm on the long axis at the firewall. Also the fuse length you list of 52" must be without the prop shaft/hub or else there is something wrong as the scale length for a very, very near 1/6 scale model would be closer to 55" and a span of 70.9". Exact 1/6 scale would have a span of 71" which is only a slight amount off. The other scenario would have the fuse length of 52" being the actual size of your model and the wingspan being smaller than called out in the press release. Since I have already pre-ordered one with the understanding that the plane has a 70.9" span, I sure hope that dimension is not wrong and the plane is actually smaller. Sincerely - Dave
Old 07-29-2007, 09:45 PM
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Those were the dimansions straight from the factory...copied and pasted from e-mail to RCU. I will ask them however to verify the measurements. I will also ask my coleauges at YT International in the UK to verify the numbers as well,
Old 08-01-2007, 04:27 AM
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Thanks, I would appreciate that. I was noticing in an earlier post that someone mentioned the OS 120 shown in the photo of the plane just stuck out slightly past the hole in the cowl. They mentioned that the OS 120 is 116mm tall (from the center of the propshaft to the top of the cylinder). Subtracting 6mm for that amount would give you a radius of 110mm which would then equate to cowl diameter of about 220mm in the area of the cylinder. The cowl just gets larger as you taper back to the firewall, so the measurement at that point would be even larger. My guess is there was a translation or conversion error from the factory measurements you received. I await very curiously to see what the true size is.....Thanks -Dave
Old 08-02-2007, 12:08 PM
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I hope the cowl diameter is more than 200 mm because the kmp Super Sea Fury already has this dia; and does not look so *massive*
maibe 200 mm at the front? and not at the firewall?

[>:]there has to be place for the 325-5 Saito radial, i estimate and hope...[>:] i had this engine before in the super sea fury with modified cowl (see my pics my profile)

greetings from the Austrian mountains
Old 08-08-2007, 10:31 PM
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Hi Guys:

Here are some pictures of the cowl with a ruler beside it.
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:09 AM
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Hey Guys

One thing I have got to say about the plane.........
If it comes out of a trustworthy company (like KMP-YT products) then it sure flies great like the rest of the airplanes of the firm.
I have been a modeller since 1982 and I can assure you of one thing. I want to have a nice weekend flight whenever I go to our flying site....and the things that I am looking for from one model I fly in weekends are: Durability, excellent flying characteristics, no component failures and scale-looks.....That's all. In all my previous claims KMP/YT is the company that delivered them the Best way.
At first the Durability: I have gone flying many models of KMP/YT for long periods of time. Their durability is astonishing!
Flying characteristics: For sure they all fly great. They give me more in the field than of what AKondor promisses that anybody could get.....They are simply excellent flying machines!
No component failures: In this field KMP/YT really excelles!!! This is coming out due to the company's respect of their target market! I have never had a failure in my retracts at all my KMP/YT models that I have flown through the years - and I fly every weekend for at least 6 hours!! (airborne model time)!
Of course not having failures in a complex pressurized air retract system needs also your understanding and care. (To lube the quick disconects so you will not have leaks) At list with the Eurokit system used from KMP/YT you will always land your planes in safety due to their spring supporting system.....( A thing that litterally all scale modellers are afraid is a stuck landing gear - classic retract failure and an eventfull belly landing - a thing that Thanks to KMP/YT you will never experience!!!!!)
Scale - looks: All the airplanes of KMP/YT are much more authentic in scale than anyother company at their price level. Now if the conversation is drugged to the level of a couple of millimetres then guys I do not follow you....Then I would suggest that you should buy a Zirrolli or a Fiberclassics kit and good luck to you with the building.......
With warm regards and care for your happy flights
Johnnie Red
PS If you put all these things together you will eventually see that even the actual dimensions of the cowl, or the included retract system are minor subjects to your enjoyment of life!!!
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Old 08-12-2007, 12:33 PM
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Johnnie Red, I think you are missing the point of our queries. The questions regarding the size of the cowl are not meant to nitpick or question the scale fidelity of the model, but to establish just how big the airplane is without having one in front of you. A lot of people have a preferred powerplant they would like to use and are concerned if it will fit properly. Many also will not have the benefit of actually seeing one of these kits before buying them, therefore making such a purchase sight unseen can be a bit of a gamble without enough information.
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The Generation IV Spring down/Air up retracts with oleo struts and alloy wheels that come with this plane, what else would be needed to have a complete retract system or does it come complete ? Very nice looking plane.
Old 08-12-2007, 05:00 PM
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they will come complete, with everything you need, and note, they are gen four, currant issues are gen 3 supplied with the 109, spit etc, these are the new kids on the block, so new even i havnt seen them
Old 08-13-2007, 06:50 AM
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alanc,

Thanks for the info. Never had a composite plane before. How well do they hold up to the vibration of a gasser? I'm looking for a nice War Bird for a small gasser.
Old 08-21-2007, 07:02 PM
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Is that a Laser engine in the Me-109??
Old 08-22-2007, 12:19 PM
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a gasser is going in my tiffy, so, its a case of i will let you know!!! but, seriously, i dont think for one minute it will be any problem,, its glass resin, not polyester like the spit, 109, hurri, etc, tough as old boots!!
Old 08-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Any updates on this plane? Any idea on the weight? Wondering if a small 26cc gasser would fly this plane very well? I always wonder about prop clearance for gas engines on small planes. From past history on KMP planes, would this be a one piece wing or with a wing tube?
Old 08-31-2007, 10:01 PM
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Is it me or does that cowl look monsterus??

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Hi Guys:

Here are some pictures of the cowl with a ruler beside it.
Old 08-31-2007, 10:41 PM
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Any updates on this plane?

+1... Anyone take delivery yet?


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