Hangar 9 B-25 ARF: Building and Modifications
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John,
Thanks for the tip on installing the upper wing nacelles. I worked great and was easy. I wish I had asked before I did the firsr one, wat a mess that was with epoxy.
Thanks again the help was great.
I have another question. Anybody have tips on the rubberbands to keep the nose wheel cables out of the way.
No matter what I do it doesnt seem to work well.
Yet another question. In the bag marked fuselage there is a piece of wood covered with OD covering.
it is around three inches long and about a quarter inch high. with one end tapered. What is this for?
I looked thru the manual several times and could not find reference to it.
Thanks again for all the help.
Bill
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hello,
Ken,
well after some time i was able to finaly get my flaps set up and am now getting to the rest of the plane.
i will be trying johns idea with the heat gun for the fiberglass wing covers also .
overall this arf is going together pretty good all parts fit nicely. im still undecided about going electric or keeping the .36nt'S .
mitch
Ken,
well after some time i was able to finaly get my flaps set up and am now getting to the rest of the plane.
i will be trying johns idea with the heat gun for the fiberglass wing covers also .
overall this arf is going together pretty good all parts fit nicely. im still undecided about going electric or keeping the .36nt'S .
mitch
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Hey guys, instead of the rubber band idea on the nsoe gear steering, install a piece of heat shrink tubing around the cylinder area of the retract body/unit. The heat shrink should cover most of the air cylinder and mounting frames. I think I used 3/4 inch diameter heat shrink. What it does is it covers the aft pin that holds the cyliner to the side frame and will not let the cable get caught any more.
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ORIGINAL: John Redman
Hey guys, instead of the rubber band idea on the nsoe gear steering, install a piece of heat shrink tubing around the cylinder area of the retract body/unit. The heat shrink should cover most of the air cylinder and mounting frames. I think I used 3/4 inch diameter heat shrink. What it does is it covers the aft pin that holds the cyliner to the side frame and will not let the cable get caught any more.
Hey guys, instead of the rubber band idea on the nsoe gear steering, install a piece of heat shrink tubing around the cylinder area of the retract body/unit. The heat shrink should cover most of the air cylinder and mounting frames. I think I used 3/4 inch diameter heat shrink. What it does is it covers the aft pin that holds the cyliner to the side frame and will not let the cable get caught any more.
I thought the issue was getting tangled up in the strut and wheel assembly. Is that not an issue?
Ken
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I guess it could be. I have not seen that issue on mine. My big issue was the steering cables would get caught in the pin tha holds the air cylinder in place to the side frames at the aft edge.
I have not ever seen cables get hung up on a wheel, and rarely on the strut assembly. Normally it is always on the retract itself. I do know they found an issue when flying the prototypes here at Horizon and did a mod. Was not sure what they got hung up on and they guys are gone to Joe Nall for the week.
I have not ever seen cables get hung up on a wheel, and rarely on the strut assembly. Normally it is always on the retract itself. I do know they found an issue when flying the prototypes here at Horizon and did a mod. Was not sure what they got hung up on and they guys are gone to Joe Nall for the week.
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Gents,
My B-25 is getting closer by the day, I need to finish up the cockpits and that's just about it......... I may fly her with the canopies simply taped in place, we'll see.
@ treasure: that piece is an antenna mast, at least that's what I made it out to be. Now where to put it is the question to which I don't have an answer
My B-25 is getting closer by the day, I need to finish up the cockpits and that's just about it......... I may fly her with the canopies simply taped in place, we'll see.
@ treasure: that piece is an antenna mast, at least that's what I made it out to be. Now where to put it is the question to which I don't have an answer
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My friend finally flew his B-25 with the Saito 61s this week. Here in the Denver area it took almost 100 yds to get airborne. It flew OK but at almost 3/4 to full throttle most of the time. With gear and flaps down he had to fly the approach at above 3/4 power. I was going to fly mine with the EVO 36s next week, but after seeing his fly I'm definetly going to put bigger engines on it. Looks like the OS 70 4-stroke Ultimates will do the trick.
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ORIGINAL: dbateman
Thats why i went with the extreme flight torque revolution motors. So i could swing a close to scale 3 blade. The motors are designed for 5 cell and develope 1000-1400 watts each. I ran on bench up to 1000 watt with M/A 14/7. Not quite full power but it was trying to pull my bench over so i stopped. Will let you know when i get it done and fly the bird. Doug
ORIGINAL: Woodstock Hobbies
I have a question for thos eof you that have gone electric. I would prefer to use a three bladed prop on this plane, and am considering using the E-Flite Power 60 motors, the Castle Creations 85 amp high voltage ESC and 4500 mah 6 cell Li-Po's. That said, does anyone think the 13x8 or maybe even the 14x7 Master Airscrew Props would be a good fit? I have chatted with the Hanger 9 folks, but they are not really putting forth a whole lot of info on if this would be a good combo to go with. This plane will be one of the few in the store that will not be for sale, but will rather be added to my own collection of aircraft. This is why I am at a bit of a loss, since it is not in the recommended configuration. I would hate to get the whole thing together only to find that I do not have the thrust to get the plane in the air. Any help would be appreciated.
I have a question for thos eof you that have gone electric. I would prefer to use a three bladed prop on this plane, and am considering using the E-Flite Power 60 motors, the Castle Creations 85 amp high voltage ESC and 4500 mah 6 cell Li-Po's. That said, does anyone think the 13x8 or maybe even the 14x7 Master Airscrew Props would be a good fit? I have chatted with the Hanger 9 folks, but they are not really putting forth a whole lot of info on if this would be a good combo to go with. This plane will be one of the few in the store that will not be for sale, but will rather be added to my own collection of aircraft. This is why I am at a bit of a loss, since it is not in the recommended configuration. I would hate to get the whole thing together only to find that I do not have the thrust to get the plane in the air. Any help would be appreciated.
I was wondering how it flew with the 3 bladed's. I will be going 5S with the stock Eflight 46 motors and 60A ESC and would like to go for the 3-b's if they measure up. Feedback?
Keith
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I hope someone can help me I need the right motor template for a glow motor. I gotten ahold of Horrizon and they sent me 2 e power templates thencalled back and recieved 2 right e power templates and 2 left glow templates. I don't blame them for the mistake because they are made over sea's and they can't control to much on that. I've called them on other plane parts and they been really good and I understand thier position. So if you can spare you'res or have an extra set let me know and the same if someone needs a set for electric I have 4 sets.
Thanks Bill
You can email me at [email protected]
Thanks Bill
You can email me at [email protected]
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ORIGINAL: erieqc
I hope someone can help me I need the right motor template for a glow motor. I gotten ahold of Horrizon and they sent me 2 e power templates thencalled back and recieved 2 right e power templates and 2 left glow templates. I don't blame them for the mistake because they are made over sea's and they can't control to much on that. I've called them on other plane parts and they been really good and I understand thier position. So if you can spare you'res or have an extra set let me know and the same if someone needs a set for electric I have 4 sets.
Thanks Bill
You can email me at [email protected]
I hope someone can help me I need the right motor template for a glow motor. I gotten ahold of Horrizon and they sent me 2 e power templates thencalled back and recieved 2 right e power templates and 2 left glow templates. I don't blame them for the mistake because they are made over sea's and they can't control to much on that. I've called them on other plane parts and they been really good and I understand thier position. So if you can spare you'res or have an extra set let me know and the same if someone needs a set for electric I have 4 sets.
Thanks Bill
You can email me at [email protected]
I have one you can have. email me your mailing info to [email protected]
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Ken
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I just purchased a "Detail in Scale" Aviation Publication that is published by Squadron/Signal Publications on the B-25. It is Volume 60. It is a great publication that has photos of war time and post war unrestored B-25's only.
The introduction indicates that "many of the differences between production variants and some of the important modifications have never been pointed out in any previous publication." They go on to say that "In reviewing reference material on the Mitchell, it was discovered that there were no accurate scale drawings available, and the shape of the airframe was often misrepresented." For the sake of brevity I am leaving out a lot of the discussion on this but the final statements in the introduction are as follows. "Different waist and tail gun positions were added at modification centers and field depots, and they finally became production standards on the B-25H and B-25J. Otherwise, except for some relatively minor detail differences, the sound, basic design of the B-25-NA (North American prototypes) REMAINED UNCHANGED throughout the entire production run."
The detailed drawings by aviation researcher Lloyd Jones were created from technical drawings by North American, dimension data from manuals, and measurements on actual unrestored aircraft. These "were used to make the most accurate scale drawings ever made available to the public."
Drawings in this publication were done for every variant as well as photos and it appears that the fuselage and flying surfaces remained constant after the prototypes were completed. I know there has been some discussion about the "correctness" of the different B-25's available or the ability to convert a B-25J to some other variant. It appears as though it is OK to modify any of these "birds" to your favorite variant. It appears it is only the small details that were changed at the factory and in the field but the main structures remained unchanged throughout the entire production run.
Don't know if this is helpful but it answered alot of my questions about modifying this plane.
The introduction indicates that "many of the differences between production variants and some of the important modifications have never been pointed out in any previous publication." They go on to say that "In reviewing reference material on the Mitchell, it was discovered that there were no accurate scale drawings available, and the shape of the airframe was often misrepresented." For the sake of brevity I am leaving out a lot of the discussion on this but the final statements in the introduction are as follows. "Different waist and tail gun positions were added at modification centers and field depots, and they finally became production standards on the B-25H and B-25J. Otherwise, except for some relatively minor detail differences, the sound, basic design of the B-25-NA (North American prototypes) REMAINED UNCHANGED throughout the entire production run."
The detailed drawings by aviation researcher Lloyd Jones were created from technical drawings by North American, dimension data from manuals, and measurements on actual unrestored aircraft. These "were used to make the most accurate scale drawings ever made available to the public."
Drawings in this publication were done for every variant as well as photos and it appears that the fuselage and flying surfaces remained constant after the prototypes were completed. I know there has been some discussion about the "correctness" of the different B-25's available or the ability to convert a B-25J to some other variant. It appears as though it is OK to modify any of these "birds" to your favorite variant. It appears it is only the small details that were changed at the factory and in the field but the main structures remained unchanged throughout the entire production run.
Don't know if this is helpful but it answered alot of my questions about modifying this plane.
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Does anyone know what RPM the stock EVO motors and the 3 blade prop produce? I have been testing today my e conversion setup and with a 4S 4500 lipo and various props I get:
EVO 10 x 4, 3 balde, 10540 rpm, 620 watts
EVO 11 x 6, 2 blade, 10740 rpm, 590 watts
APC 11 x 6 sport, 2 blade, 10700 rpm, 555 watts
Which would be the best setup? The APC 11 x 6. Also my kit does not have the standoff spacers, do you have to order them seperately? I do no see them on their website.
Don
EVO 10 x 4, 3 balde, 10540 rpm, 620 watts
EVO 11 x 6, 2 blade, 10740 rpm, 590 watts
APC 11 x 6 sport, 2 blade, 10700 rpm, 555 watts
Which would be the best setup? The APC 11 x 6. Also my kit does not have the standoff spacers, do you have to order them seperately? I do no see them on their website.
Don
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don,
i cant help with the rpm ?? , but on there website and everything ive been told about converting mine to electric is to use the 13X8 E-prop with the 46 e-flight motors.
when i bought my B-25 it came with the evos installed and i had to call horizon and they sent me out the stand offs as they were supposed to be in the kits.
hope this helps.
bassman
P.S. mine is almost ready to fly with the evo's just need to balance it and run the engines in good
i cant help with the rpm ?? , but on there website and everything ive been told about converting mine to electric is to use the 13X8 E-prop with the 46 e-flight motors.
when i bought my B-25 it came with the evos installed and i had to call horizon and they sent me out the stand offs as they were supposed to be in the kits.
hope this helps.
bassman
P.S. mine is almost ready to fly with the evo's just need to balance it and run the engines in good
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I will call horizon tomorrow then and ask for the standoffs. I am not using the Eflite motors so those props are too big. I am using a different motor with a higher KV (about 850KV), where as the Eflite power 46s are 670KV. I wanted to spin smaller props at a higehr rpm.
Don
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Horizon sent me two sets of the Evolution anodized aluminum 45mm gas mounts as they don't have the kit standoffs available as a seperate item. They arrived so hope to get my motors mounted this weekend
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Horizon sent me two sets of the Evolution anodized aluminum 45mm gas mounts as they don't have the kit standoffs available as a seperate item. They arrived so hope to get my motors mounted this weekend
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Well I finally had the maiden flight tonight on my "Doolittle Raider". Needed a little right aileron trim and a little down trim. The OS .46's make her fly like a fighter. What a beautiful plane in the air. I love the way everything at the field stops when you taxi out and fly. I'm quickly falling in love with twin engines. Heck, it only took 2 months to get them broken in and matched up. I had to let a little more air flow around my Q series Slimline mufflers. They run at 10,200 rpm's with 11x7 props. Still lookin' for a 1/10 scale USS Hornet!
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Congradulations, Tim! Don't suppose anyone had a camcorder going? Anyway, that 1st flight with a twin has to be a little nerve-racking, glad to hear everything went OK, and looking forward to seeing you in October.
.........Jim
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Hope you will have the Mustang, the B-25 and a Corsair or two in October. Of course it will be a fun time whatever we fly!!!
I didn't have a camera rolling because the decision to fly was made in about 5 minutes. My good friend Doug C. called and said he was going to maiden his H9 PnP Cub so I didn't have time to rally all the troops. Turned out he had a bad servo reversing Y harness on his elevator and he didn't get to maiden which gave me time for a couple of flights. You are really going to enjoy this B-25. Mine is fast with the 2 strokes but I love the way it flies.
I didn't have a camera rolling because the decision to fly was made in about 5 minutes. My good friend Doug C. called and said he was going to maiden his H9 PnP Cub so I didn't have time to rally all the troops. Turned out he had a bad servo reversing Y harness on his elevator and he didn't get to maiden which gave me time for a couple of flights. You are really going to enjoy this B-25. Mine is fast with the 2 strokes but I love the way it flies.
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Here is Six B-25 ready for are 48 Annual Flying Circus. From left to right is a, Top Flight, three Hanger 9, a KMP, and another, Hanger 9 Check us out at www.gcrcc.net Thanks Ron