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Old 09-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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I have been putting on some of the scale details to get them all made and fit them on the fuselage so I can see what the finished product will look like. I will have to take everything off before I glass the fuse but I wll at least be one step ahead when it's time for the final detailing. I don't know whetther I should mess with the sliding canopy before or after I glass the plane. What are your opinions on this matter. How do most of you do it? Before or after the glass? Heres some pic's of what I've gotten done so far which isn't much. I need to order more aluminum from Balsa USA for more hatches and inspection panels. I also added a pic of the canopy I bought with the plans and the one for the F4U-7 French Navy Corsair. As you can see there is a big difference in the size and shape of the 2 canopies. Hence the reason for having to alter the fuselage with the raised area behind the pilots head and a little reshaping of the sides of the fuselage in the canopy area.

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Old 09-05-2008, 07:39 PM
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I decided to go ahead and make the sliding canopy before I glass the fuselage. I cut it apart today after marking the fuselage where it is all lined up. Plus I have the holes from the screws that held it in place while I did it. I'll use 2 to 4 screws for the windscreen when making the slider but when it's glassed I'll only use them until the epoxy sets that will hold it secure and then remove them and putty up the holes before painting. The 3/4 oz. glass isn't going to be thick enough to really change anything anyway and if it does I'll contend with that then. I can always sand it very, very thin. I've worked with fiberglass since I was about 12 years old fixing boats at my fathers Marina. Thats about 43 Years. I guess in this department I should know what I'm doing. Some of those big boats over 50 ft. were worth $500,000.00 back in the 60's and the customers trusted me to fix them right the first time. Thats well over a $1,000,000.00 with todays prices.

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:32 PM
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I changed my side front slide rails today. Instead of having the groove on the top I cut them out and put them in so the groove is on the outside and on a slight angle for this particular canopy. I thought it would be easy the other way but it wasn't. I changed everything an am starting over on the method for it sliding. Forgive the ugly wood putty but it was a bear tearing the slides out and reinstalling them after cleaning them up. They used to be like the second picture.

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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build


ORIGINAL: rack

got my eng nead to build a corsair around one of these
Why haven't you started yet????
Old 09-07-2008, 09:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: NCIS

I changed my side front slide rails today. Instead of having the groove on the top I cut them out and put them in so the groove is on the outside and on a slight angle for this particular canopy. I thought it would be easy the other way but it wasn't. I changed everything an am starting over on the method for it sliding. Forgive the ugly wood putty but it was a bear tearing the slides out and reinstalling them after cleaning them up. They used to be like the second picture.

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How are you going to open/close the canopy?
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we just spent four hours looking for a canopy that blew off a t 28 worked real good on the ground he slid it back on final and it riped the rails out , just a little to fast
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I am just going to do it manually and have a screw to hold it shut on each side. Probably a set screw so it will be hard to see. This canopy is being more of a pain than I imagined. It fit perfect when in one piece but now with it cut apart it doesn't want to line up. I have tried everything to get it to work. The problem is that it can't be cut after it's installed. The aluminum is tightly pressed together at the joint. I wish Graham would of left a knife blades worth of room. I'm going to try it anyway on my other canopy which was my better choice anyway. They are both great but the second one seems to fit better and the windscreen is slightly taller by about 1/4". At this point I'm going to wait until the fuse is glassed before anymore attempts. That way once it's on I won't have to mess with it anymore. On to the servos, flaps, and ailerons.

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at least you were able to buy yours, when i started this corsair i couldnt find any for sale , so i formed on on the fuse out of clay, cast a plaster mold , then cast a plug out of rock hard putty vacume form at least ten canopys to get on good enough to use
the plug makes a goodpaper weight
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:58 PM
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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build

Rack,

If I had known you didn't even have a canopy for yours I would have sold you one of mine. You should have been more specific. I thought the canopy came with the plane.

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when i first got this don didnt have his out yet and i thought i was getting the gear right away i was kind of in a hurry
Old 09-12-2008, 07:42 PM
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I have been working on the cockpit and the hump behind the pilots head to make the height right so the canopy would work. I started over with another canopy that I haven't cut yet for another shot at making it look staright and even. Hopefully it will end up sliding and being a snug fit between the windscreen and the bubble. Heres what it looks like assembled with the new canopy. Sorry about the duplicate. The last picture is kinda weird. A good friend and fellow builder that built my 1/3 scale BUSA Sopwith Pup died Tuesday night in his sleep and then I took a picture and I don't know what it is but in all the pictures I've taken with this camera this has never happened. Did I catch something on film from the super natural. I guess if you beleive in it. I did!!!

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Old 09-16-2008, 05:54 PM
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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build

Here is a little motivation for you Barry!!! I put to great flights on my 1/4 scale DS spitfire this weekend. No trim needed. this was the second and third flight for this plane. It flies great. John[img][/img]
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John,

Congratulations on the maiden and following flights. Your Spitfire looks awesome. Hope mine come out that good. I installed the fuel tank and engine today so I can take it to my friend at his metal fabrication shop so he can make my scale exhaust. I can't wait to see it after that. I ordered a Top Flite Giant GE F4U Corsair yesterday and should receive it before Thursday. I am going to build it while building my 1/4 scale Corsair. It will be nice to have pictures and instructions again. It should also give me some ideas for my big beast.

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I finished installing the fuel tank and running all the lines. Now it's time to take it to the welder on Saturday. Heres the tank installation. Now all I need to do is a fuel leak test and when the fuelage gets back with the exhaust I can test run the engine and the Solo Prop. I'll take a video of that when I do it. The engine is undercover now until I take it to the welder to keep any dust out of it. When I get it back I'll also epoxy the tailfeathers onto the fuselage as it won't be traveling anymore where it could get dinged up. I'll check the wing incidence first so I know the stab is right.

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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build

I took my BEAST to the welder today for him to work his magic and make me a custom exhaust. He did a little head scratching when he saw what he was up against and the lack of tons of room, but he said he was up to the challenge. I'll probably get it back in a month or two. At least I still have the flaps and ailerons to build fot the wing. Plus I can make all the servo holding hatches for it too while I'm waiting and not busy working on the Giant TF Corsair.

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what size tank do you have
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I got it from Bobby at Cactus Aviation and I believe it's 52 ozs. It looks like a huge water bottle from a bike. He has the nice filler and all the other fittings you will need. Throw some business his way. Very nice person to deal with. He also sells the 3W engines here in the US if you didn't already know that.

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GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

My retracts will be ready to ship on Monday. I talked to Darrell today and he said call him Monday for payment. Then I can work on that and the TF Giant at one time. I am ready to get something big done on my Beast.

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yea but he didnt say wich monday did he
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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build

Rack,

Well he said your struts were almost done and he did say this Monday. I try to look at the good side of everyone. He has been taking care of building and finishing the 1/4.5 scale composite Corsair which was a previous commitment.

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Old 09-27-2008, 01:04 PM
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I took my cowling out to the welder yesterday and he had started working on my exhaust. I hope he gets it done soon. It looks like his ideas will work fine. I can still do a lot of things to it.

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Default RE: 1/4 Scale F4U-1A Don Smith Plans Build

Good to hear Darrell has your retracts ready. I will email him tomorrow about mine.
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David,

I have much more success talking to him by calling him on the phone.

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Thanks Barry, I will phone him tomorrow.
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I paid for my main retracts today and Darrell said he would ship them out. I'll wait for them as long as it takes now that I know he's been paid and there coming. I hope you got in touch with him today David. He said yours were being finished also. I want to get back on the Beast soon so I can get the ball rolling again. This break with the TF Giant has motivated me to really get going when I get my retracts and the fuselage from the welder back with my custom exhaust. I went out to the welders shop today and he is working on it a little each day in between his big jobs. He even covered it all up with a sheet to protect it and it's right where him and I put it out of the path and harms way.

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