wildswan

Nice job but it looks so wrong.

Just received mine today, putting electric into it as I was fortunate to receive one of the unfuelproof versions for less money.

Jason

kahloq

Yeah it does look a bit strange, but I think it came out decent.
Ive seen some ME-109's with American markings and also a British ME-109, and yeah, they look wrong too, but its all a part of history.

mjg3

gearhead 3 both roco and vision dont have none. any other sites have a listing for them?

thanks mike

TimJ

I would call Vision Hobbies. I know they have 1 in stock. Let them know that Tim sent you.

michaelbbbb

Any flight reports on this plane? I'm seriously considering it...but haven't found any comments anywhere from people that have them in the air and commenting on their experience. Please fill me in on the setups you are using and how you like the plane.....

michaelbbbb

Guys,
has anyone built and flown one of these yet? or are they that new from Kyosho?
Looks nice, but would like to hear if anyone is flying one yet....
If so, what kind of engine are you using?
I'm thinking of stuffing a Saito 150 into one just to see it rip

TimJ

This airplane flys great! You can use a YS120 supercharged, I don't know if the 150 will fit.

michaelbbbb

Is the YS120 out of production? looks like it was replaced by the YS140....
have only had experience with Saito, any comments on the Saito 125/150 vs. the YS 120/140?

norm

Hello kalog, Just got mine in yesterday, my first impression..just up there with Top Flite. Tail fearthers...awsome. finishing impressive.

MOD's planned: 1) increase wheel well to fit 3.5 inch wheels 2) Install 550RS with 660 struts and rebuild the wheel pants. 3) Modify the firewall to fit Saito 200Ti and spin the MAS 16X10 with this engine...underpower for my H9 P-51 150...will be replaced by a 220 or YS 170fz, also got the 3.75 inch Tru turn P-51 3 blade spinner for it.

Questions: Does anyone have any idea of where to get matching monokote and paint for this one and the pen used for panel lines? They glued "glued" the wheel well so well that i'm scared to pull them out like I did on the H9 spitfire, by blowing the heat gun lightly maybe

I can see kalog modified his a lot in a "captured" version, for a second time very nice.

Normand.

norm

oups forgot to click the notify me

tms261

I've read thru this thread but only seen perhaps one person say anything about flying this plane. Has anyone flown it more than a couple of times? If so what engine? Any remarks on build quality, flying characteristics or landing experiences? Nose overs etc....?

I have the G-20 in an H9 Hellcat and really like the way it flies. I would like it better with decent retracts and if they were further forward. The plane, although balanced fairly well, really has a nose over issue. I'm wondering how the G-20 would do in the slightly larger Spitfire, with perhaps LADO retracts. Im not sure how the G-20 may fit in the cowl as of course it may be narrower than the Hellcats round cowl. Any comments, experiences with this plane?

Thanks for any opinions/info.

TMS

jmohn

Looks pretty nice, but lots of the smaller Kyosho planes have been real dogs. This one looks great, but how's it fly? Carmark also makes a nice one, but no flaps on it. I already have one without flaps and I need all the runway to stop the plane

TimJ

How the heck can the smaller Kyosho planes be dogs? That just does not make sence.

kahloq

All of the smaller Kyosho planes fly extremely well. only way its a dog is you you severaly underpower them with something liker a 30 size 4 stroke.

AS far as the 90 Spitfire, I havent had a chance to fly it yet as weather gets windy on the days Im off..darn it. Maybe this weekend. I have no doubt it will fly well with a saito 125. For those asking, yes a saito 150 will fit.

victorzamora

I had a Spitfire 40 which flew AMAZINGLY well. Downwind low-and-slow passes don't mix well with a dead-stick, but that was the end of that plane. Regardless, it was a great flying plane...but it had an AWFUL tendency to nose-over while taxiing or taking off. I wonder if the bigger spit has the same problemt?

TimJ

The "nose-over" can be solved with a little better balance, as well as finding that happy medium with the throttle.

norm

Saito 200ti will be great in there. I measured everything ang the 200ti will spin a 16 x 10 3 blade at 7600rpm. It will be fast and powerful. I had that engine in my H9 150 mustang and it flys that plane "scale" at 19 lbs... lets see what it sounds like in the Kyosho 90.

TimJ

LOL 200....... This airplane will weigh in at around 10.5lbs wet. So you should have plenty of power

norm

The Saito 200 is only 3 hp but has the particularity of not being higher than the 100 and is a twin cylinder...pretty cool. Il like overpowering my planes and it also sounds great! I'm also beefing up the landing gear to 7/16 struts with 550 air retracts and 3.5 inch wheel to improve the scale look and the ground roll.

I was reading the tip over habit this plane has it is mainly due to the small wheels on it. Other models has this bad habit, the H9 spitfire, and the H9 P-51 is 18 lbs plane mounted on 3/8 struts 8 inch long and 3.5 inch whells on a 150 size 1/5.5 scale size... way too small and the wheel poke in the ground instead of rolling.

Anyways back to the engine, this one will get down and dirty,[>:]

Normand

jmohn

Sorry, I will revise my statement. They are very heavy and have a high wing loading for a plane that size. If you put enough engine in anything you can make it fly, but the hard tip stalls on the smaller ones are not good. Great looking planes. Maybe the larger one will have a better wing loading?


Jeff

TimJ

I think you are here to just smear Kyosho Products. Your statment on wing loading is another non factual statment.

kahloq

Wholeheartedly agree with Gearhead. The 40 size kyosho planes are no where NEAR heavy nor do they have high wingloadings for their size. My kyosho ME-109 with a saito 72 flies great with a 12x8 prop and it it'll simply float in at idle throttle from 150+ feet out. No high wingloading plane would do that. t also doesnt tip stall unless you really, really, really slow.

It seems to me that a cerain person has never flown a kyosho plane and is merely passing on hearsay.

THE ONLY kyosho plane that is heavy for its size is the fiberglass body/center wing Kyosho Corsair. This plane is no longer in production simply because it was a high quality/higher cost kit then other non fiberglass arfs. I own one and it is heavy at 9 pounds 4 oz for a 58" wingspan plane. However, it flies better then any 60 size Corsair from H9 or Topflite and it still floats along pretty well at half throttle. Comapre that to the ME-109 that only weighs about 5 pounds at 56" wingspan. Pffft. No high wingloading there. Same for the P-51, P-4-, Spitfire, etc, etc.........

victorzamora

edited because kahloq beat me to it!

kahloq

Probably not a smear campaign per say, just someone spouting stuff like they think they know it all, yet have no first hand knowledge of the products themselves.

jmohn

I have had two (P51 and P40) the P40 had a very violent tip stall. Most accurate P40 models probably also do too, but the wing loading for a plane that size was something like 30+ oz. That's pretty high IMO. Nothing again the Kyosho planes, they look awsome and many are very happy with them I am not one of them. If you like them good for you and I hope you enjoy them. I think it's more a matter of size when you start adding retracts and the other items to get them more scale the smaller models just get heavy faster.


Jeff